MSU vs. Sac State.

[PlayerRep]

j.j. has been hurt significantly three different times. the first came around the 33rd run of his career. he was dinged up against n.a.u. last year, but didn't miss a game, got concussed and missed a game this year and is staring at another missed game due to his ankle. mcghee had about 325 carries before he got hurt and missed a game. adams has had 260 carries. prikop has 91 carries and been sacked 11 times.

some players frames are just more durable than others. that's a bigger factor than how often someone runs it. but you never know and can't predict when someone will get hurt. they're all bound to at some point though.

one thing is for certain. when you start predicting a player on an opposing team will get hurt, it comes off as you're wishing he gets hurt whether that's your intention or not.

Nope. Predicting a player will get hurt doesn't mean you want the player to get hurt. It's just part of the analysis of the game of football. Of course, I know you wouldn't understand that.

didn't say it "does" i said it "comes off as" not that you'd know the difference.

Don't agree, but then I don't know if I've ever agreed with anything you've ever said. For posters who aren't just trolls, I don't recall anyone that I virtually never agree with, except for you.

 

[getgrizzy]

Well Jeez PR - maybe your coaches should turn JJ loose then and start having him run the ball more. Because if what you say is true, and Prukop is more likely to get hurt because he runs too much, while JJ isn't running much, something isn't working, JJ has been pummeled this year, has left multiple games due to injury. Prukop hasn't missed a play, to my recollection. Maybe you should start implementing more designed runs for JJ so he can get the hell out of harms way.

JJ has been hit this year, due to football being a dangerous game, UM's inexperienced o-line, a flagged late hit, and the quality of the defenses UM has played (Wyo., NDSU and ND are good defenses). I hope Prukop avoid injury, but if he gets hurt, feel free to make a post telling me that I was right, again.

all quarterbacks get hurt eventually. so predicting one will and expecting anyone to acknowledge you for predicting it is a sign of some sort of mental complex.

 

[PlayerRep]

Well Jeez PR - maybe your coaches should turn JJ loose then and start having him run the ball more. Because if what you say is true, and Prukop is more likely to get hurt because he runs too much, while JJ isn't running much, something isn't working, JJ has been pummeled this year, has left multiple games due to injury. Prukop hasn't missed a play, to my recollection. Maybe you should start implementing more designed runs for JJ so he can get the hell out of harms way.

JJ has been hit this year, due to football being a dangerous game, UM's inexperienced o-line, a flagged late hit, and the quality of the defenses UM has played (Wyo., NDSU and ND are good defenses). I hope Prukop avoid injury, but if he gets hurt, feel free to make a post telling me that I was right, again.

all quarterbacks get hurt eventually. so predicting one will and expecting anyone to acknowledge you for predicting it is a sign of some sort of mental complex.

Some qb's will get hurt more than others. Qb's who run more, take chances, and don't slide much, have a much higher chance of getting hurt. Surprising that you can't understand that.

 

[getgrizzy]

j.j. has been hurt significantly three different times. the first came around the 33rd run of his career. he was dinged up against n.a.u. last year, but didn't miss a game, got concussed and missed a game this year and is staring at another missed game due to his ankle. mcghee had about 325 carries before he got hurt and missed a game. adams has had 260 carries. prikop has 91 carries and been sacked 11 times.

some players frames are just more durable than others. that's a bigger factor than how often someone runs it. but you never know and can't predict when someone will get hurt. they're all bound to at some point though.

one thing is for certain. when you start predicting a player on an opposing team will get hurt, it comes off as you're wishing he gets hurt whether that's your intention or not.

Nope. Predicting a player will get hurt doesn't mean you want the player to get hurt. It's just part of the analysis of the game of football. Of course, I know you wouldn't understand that.

didn't say it "does" i said it "comes off as" not that you'd know the difference.

Don't agree, but then I don't know if I've ever agreed with anything you've ever said. For posters who aren't just trolls, I don't recall anyone that I virtually never agree with, except for you.

there's nothing for you to agree or disagree with as i merely stated a simple fact. the fact you can't comprehend that should be of great concern to you at your advanced age. good luck.

 

[getgrizzy]

Well Jeez PR - maybe your coaches should turn JJ loose then and start having him run the ball more. Because if what you say is true, and Prukop is more likely to get hurt because he runs too much, while JJ isn't running much, something isn't working, JJ has been pummeled this year, has left multiple games due to injury. Prukop hasn't missed a play, to my recollection. Maybe you should start implementing more designed runs for JJ so he can get the hell out of harms way.

JJ has been hit this year, due to football being a dangerous game, UM's inexperienced o-line, a flagged late hit, and the quality of the defenses UM has played (Wyo., NDSU and ND are good defenses). I hope Prukop avoid injury, but if he gets hurt, feel free to make a post telling me that I was right, again.

all quarterbacks get hurt eventually. so predicting one will and expecting anyone to acknowledge you for predicting it is a sign of some sort of mental complex.

Some qb's will get hurt more than others. Qb's who run more, take chances, and don't slide much, have a much higher chance of getting hurt. Surprising that you can't understand that.

you aren't even responding to what i said. see the button on your bed rail? press it and a nurse will be right there.

 

[SACCAT66]

Another thing to consider is... Prukop was actually one of the top safeties in Texas ( was being looked at by UT, Texas Tech) his Junior year, but then schools got realigned, and he ended up at a first year school playing QB. My guess is, if he could play safety, he can take and give a hit. Just thought I would add something to this nothing of a thread....Fun read though.

 

[poorgriz]

Well Jeez PR - maybe your coaches should turn JJ loose then and start having him run the ball more. Because if what you say is true, and Prukop is more likely to get hurt because he runs too much, while JJ isn't running much, something isn't working, JJ has been pummeled this year, has left multiple games due to injury. Prukop hasn't missed a play, to my recollection. Maybe you should start implementing more designed runs for JJ so he can get the hell out of harms way.

JJ has been hit this year, due to football being a dangerous game, UM's inexperienced o-line, a flagged late hit, and the quality of the defenses UM has played (Wyo., NDSU and ND are good defenses). I hope Prukop avoid injury, but if he gets hurt, feel free to make a post telling me that I was right, again.

While you can and usually do come off as an arrogant douche, at least you usually do pretty good job with the arguing thing. However, that post is just flat out stupid, as everyone else on here knows. That's like me saying "Your offensive scheme trying to force that run game with an obviously inferior O Line, is a bad idea and it's going to get Jordan Canada hurt." Do you agree with me? I predict Jordan Canada is going to get hurt by the end of the year if Delaney keeps trying to establish the ground and pound run game and sending JC up the middle into the teeth of the dragon. If you disagree, I'll expect you to be back here telling me I was right, again. :lol:

 

[Rich W]

I call BS that playerrep has friends in Bozeman.

 

[Umista]

I hope Prukop can last until the famous msu meltdown.

 

[Catsrback76]

I hope Prukop can last until the famous msu meltdown.

This whole line of discussion is goofy. It is ridiculous to argue that people (QB's included) who play football won't at some point get injured. The style of play has nothing to do with it, just ask any lineman who gets rolled up on while holding a textbook block, or a kicker who separates his shoulder while kicking a FG! :shock:

I agree, I'd like to see Prukop run less and stay in the pocket more...UNTIL he runs... then I'm like, RUN FORREST RUN!!!

I believe, I've settled on Prukops new name... GUMP! So much easier than Prukop!

 

[CDAGRIZ]

I hope Prukop can last until the famous msu meltdown.

This whole line of discussion is goofy. It is ridiculous to argue that people (QB's included) who play football won't at some point get injured. The style of play has nothing to do with it, just ask any lineman who gets rolled up on while holding a textbook block, or a kicker who separates his shoulder while kicking a FG! :shock:

I agree, I'd like to see Prukop run less and stay in the pocket more...UNTIL he runs... then I'm like, RUN FORREST RUN!!!

I believe, I've settled on Prukops new name... GUMP! So much easier than Prukop!

I totally agree.

-RG3

 

[CatzWillRise]

What is this meltdown pattern I've read about? Yes we've struggled in the playoffs, but I wouldn't call losing in 2nd or 3rd round of the playoffs "a late season meltdown".

In 2010 we won 4 in a row before losing to NDSU in the 1st round.
2011 we lost our first game and last game, to UM. Won a playoff game, lost to SHSU.
2012 we won the last 4 games, won a playoff game, lost to SHSU again.
2013 was the only time I'd say we melted down, obviously losing 3 in a row to miss the playoffs.

I agree that we've had some difficulties in the last half of the season, but in the past 4 years only 2013 could be classified as a late season meltdown. Here are our records for the "last half" of the last 4 seasons. I included the last 5 games in 11 game seasons, and the last 6 in the 12 game season last year.

Now if you want to call our playoff losses meltdowns, I cannot argue that.

2010 - 4-1
2011 - 4-1
2012 - 4-1
2013 - 3-3

 

[poorgriz]

What is this meltdown pattern I've read about? Yes we've struggled in the playoffs, but I wouldn't call losing in 2nd or 3rd round of the playoffs "a late season meltdown".

In 2010 we won 4 in a row before losing to NDSU in the 1st round.
2011 we lost our first game and last game, to UM. Won a playoff game, lost to SHSU.
2012 we won the last 4 games, won a playoff game, lost to SHSU again.
2013 was the only time I'd say we melted down, obviously losing 3 in a row to miss the playoffs.

I agree that we've had some difficulties in the last half of the season, but in the past 4 years only 2013 could be classified as a late season meltdown. Here are our records for the "last half" of the last 4 seasons. I included the last 5 games in 11 game seasons, and the last 6 in the 12 game season last year.

Now if you want to call our playoff losses meltdowns, I cannot argue that.

2010 - 4-1
2011 - 4-1
2012 - 4-1
2013 - 3-3

Shhhhhhhh. Don't confuse their stories over here with solid facts. They get cranky. This year they'll get to see what a true late season melt down looks like, and it won't be the Cats. :shock:

 

[Robsnotes4u]

What is this meltdown pattern I've read about? Yes we've struggled in the playoffs, but I wouldn't call losing in 2nd or 3rd round of the playoffs "a late season meltdown".

In 2010 we won 4 in a row before losing to NDSU in the 1st round.
2011 we lost our first game and last game, to UM. Won a playoff game, lost to SHSU.
2012 we won the last 4 games, won a playoff game, lost to SHSU again.
2013 was the only time I'd say we melted down, obviously losing 3 in a row to miss the playoffs.

I agree that we've had some difficulties in the last half of the season, but in the past 4 years only 2013 could be classified as a late season meltdown. Here are our records for the "last half" of the last 4 seasons. I included the last 5 games in 11 game seasons, and the last 6 in the 12 game season last year.

Now if you want to call our playoff losses meltdowns, I cannot argue that.

2010 - 4-1
2011 - 4-1
2012 - 4-1
2013 - 3-3

Shhhhhhhh. Don't confuse their stories over here with solid facts. They get cranky. This year they'll get to see what a true late season melt down looks like, and it won't be the Cats. :shock:

Very true. Tough times when all you can talk about is your defense, especially when you haven't played an offense yet. Facts don't go well, http://www.nfl.com/features/freakonomics/episode-15

 

[AllWeatherFan]

 

[Raider]

So Rob, you are so butthurt that you trying to buddy up to the cat-troll crowd? Nice.

I guess UND/MSU does share the lil bro syndrome thing, so that makes sense.

Carry on.

 

[Grizbeer]

What is this meltdown pattern I've read about? Yes we've struggled in the playoffs, but I wouldn't call losing in 2nd or 3rd round of the playoffs "a late season meltdown".

In 2010 we won 4 in a row before losing to NDSU in the 1st round.
2011 we lost our first game and last game, to UM. Won a playoff game, lost to SHSU.
2012 we won the last 4 games, won a playoff game, lost to SHSU again.
2013 was the only time I'd say we melted down, obviously losing 3 in a row to miss the playoffs.

I agree that we've had some difficulties in the last half of the season, but in the past 4 years only 2013 could be classified as a late season meltdown. Here are our records for the "last half" of the last 4 seasons. I included the last 5 games in 11 game seasons, and the last 6 in the 12 game season last year.

Now if you want to call our playoff losses meltdowns, I cannot argue that.

2010 - 4-1
2011 - 4-1
2012 - 4-1
2013 - 3-3

Shhhhhhhh. Don't confuse their stories over here with solid facts. They get cranky. This year they'll get to see what a true late season melt down looks like, and it won't be the Cats. :shock:

Very true. Tough times when all you can talk about is your defense, especially when you haven't played an offense yet. Facts don't go well, http://www.nfl.com/features/freakonomics/episode-15

here are some more cool facts - late season usually refers to November/December. from 2010 - 2013, Cat's have won 74% of their games. From start until October Cat's won 82% of their games. For November/December games they have gone 9-7, only winning 56% of their games.

By comparison, for the same 4 year period the Griz won 67% of their games, and only 65.7% of games before October. However for November/December the Griz are 10-4 (71%). Losing games at a higher % at the end of the year is probably the meltdown they are referring to.

Another fun fact - for 2012- 2013 Delaney's record is 5-2 (71.4%) in November/December. Ash's record is 5-4 (55.6%).

 

[Htowngriz]

What is this meltdown pattern I've read about? Yes we've struggled in the playoffs, but I wouldn't call losing in 2nd or 3rd round of the playoffs "a late season meltdown".

In 2010 we won 4 in a row before losing to NDSU in the 1st round.
2011 we lost our first game and last game, to UM. Won a playoff game, lost to SHSU.
2012 we won the last 4 games, won a playoff game, lost to SHSU again.
2013 was the only time I'd say we melted down, obviously losing 3 in a row to miss the playoffs.

I agree that we've had some difficulties in the last half of the season, but in the past 4 years only 2013 could be classified as a late season meltdown. Here are our records for the "last half" of the last 4 seasons. I included the last 5 games in 11 game seasons, and the last 6 in the 12 game season last year.

Now if you want to call our playoff losses meltdowns, I cannot argue that.

2010 - 4-1
2011 - 4-1
2012 - 4-1
2013 - 3-3

Shhhhhhhh. Don't confuse their stories over here with solid facts. They get cranky. This year they'll get to see what a true late season melt down looks like, and it won't be the Cats. :shock:

I don't know how a cat fan could look at their defense objectively and think it won't end up losing them games. Then again, thinking isn't really your guys' forte.

 

[indian-outlaw]

What is this meltdown pattern I've read about? Yes we've struggled in the playoffs, but I wouldn't call losing in 2nd or 3rd round of the playoffs "a late season meltdown".

In 2010 we won 4 in a row before losing to NDSU in the 1st round.
2011 we lost our first game and last game, to UM. Won a playoff game, lost to SHSU.
2012 we won the last 4 games, won a playoff game, lost to SHSU again.
2013 was the only time I'd say we melted down, obviously losing 3 in a row to miss the playoffs.

I agree that we've had some difficulties in the last half of the season, but in the past 4 years only 2013 could be classified as a late season meltdown. Here are our records for the "last half" of the last 4 seasons. I included the last 5 games in 11 game seasons, and the last 6 in the 12 game season last year.

Now if you want to call our playoff losses meltdowns, I cannot argue that.

2010 - 4-1
2011 - 4-1
2012 - 4-1
2013 - 3-3

Shhhhhhhh. Don't confuse their stories over here with solid facts. They get cranky. This year they'll get to see what a true late season melt down looks like, and it won't be the Cats. :shock:

I don't know how a cat fan could look at their defense objectively and think it won't end up losing them games. Then again, thinking isn't really your guys' forte.

Well, last week Coach Ash just said...

"If it’s a low scoring game, the defense will keep the points down and we will control the ball and make sure we have more points than the other team. If it’s a high-scoring game, we will open it wide open and try to score more than they do."

So there you have it. The bobcat defense will only let them score when the bobcat offense is scoring more. A very wise man, it's an ancient Chinese secret... :lol:

 

[get'em_griz]

What is this meltdown pattern I've read about? Yes we've struggled in the playoffs, but I wouldn't call losing in 2nd or 3rd round of the playoffs "a late season meltdown".

In 2010 we won 4 in a row before losing to NDSU in the 1st round.
2011 we lost our first game and last game, to UM. Won a playoff game, lost to SHSU.
2012 we won the last 4 games, won a playoff game, lost to SHSU again.
2013 was the only time I'd say we melted down, obviously losing 3 in a row to miss the playoffs.

I agree that we've had some difficulties in the last half of the season, but in the past 4 years only 2013 could be classified as a late season meltdown. Here are our records for the "last half" of the last 4 seasons. I included the last 5 games in 11 game seasons, and the last 6 in the 12 game season last year.

Now if you want to call our playoff losses meltdowns, I cannot argue that.

2010 - 4-1
2011 - 4-1
2012 - 4-1
2013 - 3-3

Shhhhhhhh. Don't confuse their stories over here with solid facts. They get cranky. This year they'll get to see what a true late season melt down looks like, and it won't be the Cats. :shock:

I don't know how a cat fan could look at their defense objectively and think it won't end up losing them games. Then again, thinking isn't really your guys' forte.

Well, last week Coach Ash just said...

"If it’s a low scoring game, the defense will keep the points down and we will control the ball and make sure we have more points than the other team. If it’s a high-scoring game, we will open it wide open and try to score more than they do."

So there you have it. The bobcat defense will only let them score when the bobcat offense is scoring more. A very wise man, it's an ancient Chinese secret... :lol:

Straight out of John Madden's playbook! :lol: