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MSU Coaching Search

The committee calls me every morning and night to inform me of their plans for the day and results obtained. I am sworn to secrecy. :roll:
 
So, does anybody want the job? I refuse to believe that they have made zero offers at this point.
PS: Fisher still alive and well as a possibility.
 
ilovethecats said:
...Have they offered anyone the job and got turned down? ...

I don't know these answers, but if you do I'd love to hear them!
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Gaslight much? I’ve seen multiple articles now confirming this—and I’m sure you have too—so please apologize for being disingenuous to the tourist visiting our fine state. You’re giving the rest of us honest Montanans a bad name.

P.S. I heard MSC is begging Fisher to take the job but the interest is only one way. He was only passing through town for something related to the WR coach lost to his former NFL team. Which is kind of a funny thought, a moot position if you will, or an oxymoron. “Bobcat receiver coach”. Kind of like the phase “Choach coached”. Just sounds funny and out of place.
 
garizzalies said:
ilovethecats said:
...Have they offered anyone the job and got turned down? ...

I don't know these answers, but if you do I'd love to hear them!
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Gaslight much? I’ve seen multiple articles now confirming this—and I’m sure you have too—so please apologize for being disingenuous to the tourist visiting our fine state. You’re giving the rest of us honest Montanans a bad name.

P.S. I heard MSC is begging Fisher to take the job but the interest is only one way. He was only passing through town for something related to the WR coach lost to his former NFL team. Which is kind of a funny thought, a moot position if you will, or an oxymoron. “Bobcat receiver coach”. Kind of like the phase “Choach coached”. Just sounds funny and out of place.
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Usually I just skip what you post but this is funny! I actually watched better high school games (and athletes!) in the south than all these BSC football games! I've not seen so many dropped passes by college receivers in the last three or four years as what the teams, top to bottom, had on the field since watching junior high football games. Was it coaching?
 
CDAGRIZ said:
So, does anybody want the job? I refuse to believe that they have made zero offers at this point.
PS: Fisher still alive and well as a possibility.
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There are several articles cited that report that Lubick was #1, was offered, and turned down.
 
As a somewhat casual outside observer I find this all pretty amusing. On one hand you have a University with a broadly representative committee, including current players on the roster, that is apparently searching for a replacement coach at MSU. I'm assuming that is what happened as well when Jeff Choate (no I do not find the name particularly amusing) was hired. On the other hand you have a University who basically makes the decision on a head coach based on the desires of a bunch of well-healed alumni/donors telling the AD and administration who to hire. Which process will yield better results? Based on the outcome of the last two years it would be easy to conclude which process better serves the University but that is a small sample size. Additionally, and I'm not sure where I got this or if it is even factual (although I'm not putting any effort into researching it) it is said that UM now has the smallest university attendance numbers in the Big Sky. So if that is true I think the members of egriz have a lot more to concentrate on in the long term than who the next MSU coach is. Maybe some of you should examine what exactly have been the improvements at UM since Bodner replaced Dennison instead of wasting sarcasm of the the Bobcat hiring process. Sometimes it is better to clean up your own house first before criticizing another's.
 
kemajic said:
CDAGRIZ said:
So, does anybody want the job? I refuse to believe that they have made zero offers at this point.
PS: Fisher still alive and well as a possibility.
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There are several articles cited that report that Lubick was #1, was offered, and turned down.
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Time to face the facts. Waded makes $459,466. Check this out:

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/slideshows/10-public-universities-run-by-highest-paid-presidents

Now, who in their right mind is going to turn this down?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3885562001

And the funny about all that? They'll actually play football games! Damn! Who would have thought a football coach wants to teach kids how to play the game instead of babble about what they did fifty or sixty years ago...

In a sports chatroom...
 
Quick follow-up because it may be misinterpreted but by "smallest university attendance" I meant student enrollment numbers and not football game attendance
 
sdk.catfish said:
As a somewhat casual outside observer I find this all pretty amusing. On one hand you have a University with a broadly representative committee, including current players on the roster, that is apparently searching for a replacement coach at MSU. I'm assuming that is what happened as well when Jeff Choate (no I do not find the name particularly amusing) was hired. On the other hand you have a University who basically makes the decision on a head coach based on the desires of a bunch of well-healed alumni/donors telling the AD and administration who to hire. Which process will yield better results? Based on the outcome of the last two years it would be easy to conclude which process better serves the University but that is a small sample size. Additionally, and I'm not sure where I got this or if it is even factual (although I'm not putting any effort into researching it) it is said that UM now has the smallest university attendance numbers in the Big Sky. So if that is true I think the members of egriz have a lot more to concentrate on in the long term than who the next MSU coach is. Maybe some of you should examine what exactly have been the improvements at UM since Bodner replaced Dennison instead of wasting sarcasm of the the Bobcat hiring process. Sometimes it is better to clean up your own house first before criticizing another's.
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You sir are delusional if you are insinuating that BH was a bad hire and that the “donors” made a bad decision by bringing him back. Let’s see how things play out for MSU over the next few years before you make any judgement calls about hires. Rolls Royce ran the U and the football program into the ground. That has nothing to do with BH. The football program and Enrollment are also mutually exclusive. I assume that is what you are referring to when you talk about attendance? Bozo got lucky. They had good leadership with Waded. A great location nationally, a good engineering school and a Grizzly program that was completely in shambles after Engstrom and Stitt. Yet, they still couldn’t win the Big Sky title year in and year out. They were also one play away from losing to the Grizzlies on a very down year where BH had the team overachieving. You are scared right now. You should be. The future is not bright and you will likely lose more players and coaches. Each day that passes is time lost for a program that is trying to grapple with loss. Deal with it and quit crying on your rivals board. You look pathetic.
 
I believe over time you will find Copper, that enrollment and football success are not mutually exclusive. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't believe enrollment in the 8,000 range in the Big Sky will be good for recruitment or in the overall support of the program. You mischaracterize my post as I don't really give a shit which Montana athletic program succeeds. Having attended both Universities, with my degree from UM, I do look at academics first at it is pretty clear which direction that is headed.
 
Copper Griz said:
sdk.catfish said:
As a somewhat casual outside observer I find this all pretty amusing. On one hand you have a University with a broadly representative committee, including current players on the roster, that is apparently searching for a replacement coach at MSU. I'm assuming that is what happened as well when Jeff Choate (no I do not find the name particularly amusing) was hired. On the other hand you have a University who basically makes the decision on a head coach based on the desires of a bunch of well-healed alumni/donors telling the AD and administration who to hire. Which process will yield better results? Based on the outcome of the last two years it would be easy to conclude which process better serves the University but that is a small sample size. Additionally, and I'm not sure where I got this or if it is even factual (although I'm not putting any effort into researching it) it is said that UM now has the smallest university attendance numbers in the Big Sky. So if that is true I think the members of egriz have a lot more to concentrate on in the long term than who the next MSU coach is. Maybe some of you should examine what exactly have been the improvements at UM since Bodner replaced Dennison instead of wasting sarcasm of the the Bobcat hiring process. Sometimes it is better to clean up your own house first before criticizing another's.
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You sir are delusional if you are insinuating that BH was a bad hire and that the “donors” made a bad decision by bringing him back. Let’s see how things play out for MSU over the next few years before you make any judgement calls about hires. Rolls Royce ran the U and the football program into the ground. That has nothing to do with BH. The football program and Enrollment are also mutually exclusive. I assume that is what you are referring to when you talk about attendance? Bozo got lucky. They had good leadership with Waded. A great location nationally, a good engineering school and a Grizzly program that was completely in shambles after Engstrom and Stitt. Yet, they still couldn’t win the Big Sky title year in and year out. They were also one play away from losing to the Grizzlies on a very down year where BH had the team overachieving. You are scared right now. You should be. The future is not bright and you will likely lose more players and coaches. Each day that passes is time lost for a program that is trying to grapple with loss. Deal with it and quit crying on your rivals board. You look pathetic.
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Uh, I’m pretty sure sdk is one of us who just happens to be more objective then the average egrizer and isn’t afraid to speak his mind.
 
sdk.catfish said:
I believe over time you will find Copper, that enrollment and football success are not mutually exclusive. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't believe enrollment in the 8,000 range in the Big Sky will be good for recruitment or in the overall support of the program. You mischaracterize my post as I don't really give a shit which Montana athletic program succeeds. Having attended both Universities, with my degree from UM, I do look at academics first at it is pretty clear which direction that is headed.
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Then you should understand that this generation could give two hoots about sports in general. Not just football. UM’s enrollment problems could be traced all the way back to a Dennison and if the enrollment and sports are tied - you are vastly overstating it. You should also understand that academic programs fluctuate with the economy. Things ebb and flow. Don’t make the mistake that thinking what is hot today will be hot tomorrow. The pace of change right now is extremely rapid. With technology you may not need 5 engineers in the future. You only need one and great software program. I don’t care how many degrees you have from UM. You are knocking BH and he had done a hell of a job thus far.
 
adk attended both universities and ended up with a UM degree. :clap: Ooooh! Associate? :roll:
Your 'vision' is limited to your distal colon.
 
This thread about MSU’s FB coaching search needs more posts from people who “don’t give a shit” about either FB program, and/or the respective successes of the athletic programs.
 
CatGrad-UMGradStu said:
garizzalies said:
Gaslight much? I’ve seen multiple articles now confirming this—and I’m sure you have too—so please apologize for being disingenuous to the tourist visiting our fine state. You’re giving the rest of us honest Montanans a bad name.

P.S. I heard MSC is begging Fisher to take the job but the interest is only one way. He was only passing through town for something related to the WR coach lost to his former NFL team. Which is kind of a funny thought, a moot position if you will, or an oxymoron. “Bobcat receiver coach”. Kind of like the phase “Choach coached”. Just sounds funny and out of place.
Click to expand...

Usually I just skip what you post but this is funny! I actually watched better high school games (and athletes!) in the south than all these BSC football games! I've not seen so many dropped passes by college receivers in the last three or four years as what the teams, top to bottom, had on the field since watching junior high football games. Was it coaching?
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Jesse said:
Copper Griz said:
You sir are delusional if you are insinuating that BH was a bad hire and that the “donors” made a bad decision by bringing him back. Let’s see how things play out for MSU over the next few years before you make any judgement calls about hires. Rolls Royce ran the U and the football program into the ground. That has nothing to do with BH. The football program and Enrollment are also mutually exclusive. I assume that is what you are referring to when you talk about attendance? Bozo got lucky. They had good leadership with Waded. A great location nationally, a good engineering school and a Grizzly program that was completely in shambles after Engstrom and Stitt. Yet, they still couldn’t win the Big Sky title year in and year out. They were also one play away from losing to the Grizzlies on a very down year where BH had the team overachieving. You are scared right now. You should be. The future is not bright and you will likely lose more players and coaches. Each day that passes is time lost for a program that is trying to grapple with loss. Deal with it and quit crying on your rivals board. You look pathetic.
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Uh, I’m pretty sure sdk is one of us who just happens to be more objective then the average egrizer and isn’t afraid to speak his mind.
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By “us” do you mean fellow poor fish Catrolls?
 
garizzalies said:
sdk.catfish said:
..I think the members of egriz have a lot more to concentrate on in the long term than who the next MSC coach is. Maybe some of you should examine ..
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In the long term, yes. But surely you don't think it will take that long to find a new HC do you? That definitely should be a short term project. Therefore, carry on Griz Nation! :thumb:
 
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