Missoulians Dillon K

[GrizWhiz]

..missoulian libs trying to take out Bobby..this should get good!

Do you know who owns the Missoulian? The same "libs" that endorsed Gianforte prior to him beating the shit out of a reporter. By the way, I too though the article was slanted and fervently hope Hauck is the next new Griz head coach.

 

[MTGRZ]

This why Bobby Hauck is a risky hire for UM, or at the very least a polarizing hire. Fair or not, this article represents Bobby Hauck to a lot of Missoulians that are not football fans. We, as football fans, follow the team and follow players after these events occur. The vast majority of Montanans and alumni likely only read the headlines and form opinions based a snap judgment. The risk you run is alienating a lot of residents and alumni who are not football fans and DO get their news from the Missoulian.

I fear that a Hauck hire could be a PR disaster for UM at a critical moment in its history. It sounds like it’s as good as done, so I hope I’m wrong...but it could be bumpy ride.

Thing is, when it comes to Griz athletics, and especially the football team, nothing gets by the Missoulian. Nothing. They will milk every last drop of information to make a headline in BIG BOLD LETTERS on the front page.

It isn't going to be any different with a coach other than Hauck. If something happens, regardless of how severe they will most certainly sensationalize it. No passes here.

How to solve the problem? Do what you can to recruit players with good values and do your best as coaches and mentors to keep their asses out of trouble.

Bobby gets hired, a year or two goes by with minimal incidents (there is always some...under Stitt, under Choat) we start winning, get back to selling out the stadium and people tend to forget.

It's only going to be a bumpy ride if there's trouble, it doesn't matter who the HC is.

I think the worst case scenario is something like Tennessee is experiencing right now, where there is an immediate reaction to the news of an offer being made. I hope that Haslam is working with Paula Short and the communications office to get out ahead of a lot of questions or potentially any larger reaction.

I am afraid you are right. We live in an era of outrage. And unfortunately, there were a few instances where Bobby's players did the wrong thing. Hopefully we don't nosedive too much from this.

 

[signedbewildered]

I think what some are pointing out about Dillon is he is not only emphasizing, but sensationalizing only one side of the story. Very Florioish. If the same outlet would allow one of their other reporters to print an article touching on some of the better points (Haucks behavior & track record since he last left, an outline of what he may do different, a comparison to other programs) that would seem fair. Better yet, he could do a follow up article making a case for Hauck coming back. Like that's going to happen.

That's why I quit paying a penny for any form of The Missoulian. Very one sided, and if you don't like their side, hit the road Jack.

It hasn't been any better in recent times. Didn't Amie just get in a pissing match with her superiors about RPs injury photos? Who won that argument?

 

[signedbewildered]

Problem with The Missoulian is it's a paper out of what used to be a football loving town that is now becoming a football hating town.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

And they wonder why Bobby wouldn't give them the time of day? Sense of entitlement anyone!!

Therein lies the rub. Don't give them access, and they will crucify you. Give them all access, and they will find a way to crucify you. You have to earn their trust. Get to know them. Get them to like you. Invite some of them to a charity scramble or a pancake breakfast. Control the info. Give them some "inside info" they can publish that paints you in a positive light. Play them without them realizing they are being played. It's a brilliant dance that few are able to pull off.

 

[1972]

And they wonder why Bobby wouldn't give them the time of day? Sense of entitlement anyone!!

Therein lies the rub. Don't give them access, and they will crucify you. Give them all access, and they will find a way to crucify you. You have to earn their trust. Get to know them. Get them to like you. Invite some of them to a charity scramble or a pancake breakfast. Control the info. Give them some "inside info" they can publish that paints you in a positive light. Play them without them realizing they are being played. It's a brilliant dance that few are able to pull off.

I don't think it would matter what Bobby did, or how nice he was to the Missoulian, there are a few there that could care less, and wouldn't ever do Bobby any favors. Look at all of the misinformation in that article. No wonder Fake News is such a hot topic anymore. Lots of it in that article, I don't think they even care. Anything to sell a paper.

 

[PlayerRep]

UM, Kaimin, classmate of Donaldson at Big Sky High.

No need to get negative about Mr. Kato, he's a reporter. Leave him alone. Bringing negativity to him will only embolden those who still think the Griz and their fans are just "thugs." He reported it, now leave it up to others to interpret. Or write your own piece explaining your views and submit it to the Missoulian.

Feel free to point out the "negative" about Mr. Kato. You can't back up what you just said, because there was nothing negative. Unlike what Mr. Kato wrote, which has mistakes, what I wrote about him is factual and from his Facebook and Twitter.

I already wrote my own "piece" for egriz. Mr. Kato is welcome to do his own piece on egriz defending his piece.

You sharing information about Mr. Kato carries an undertone of negativity. You are only interested in him because he shared (some bad, some accurate) information about past teams. I do not like that it was done. I wish he hadn't, and I hope fans see past the bias. But....focusing on him will only make Griz fans look bad.

No, my posting of public info from his Facebook/Twitter does not carry any negative tone at all, and nothing negative was said. I am just pointing out info that I read about him. You have no knowledge of why I posted it, or what I think of him, but you are right that he posted incorrect information. That's crappy reporting, in my view. Yours too?

You are biased and wrong, and have misanalysed this situation.

Posting public info is not "focusing" on him. Posting pubic info will not make Griz fans look bad. You are just making yourself look biased, and bad, is my view.

Looks like you are Helena, so assume you are not Kato's dad. Are you a relative?

 

[PlayerRep]

A number of years ago, UM eventually told the Missoulian to back off or they would pull advertising, and they did pull advertising. Over time, the Missoulian backed off. And Florio left. Hopefully, UM will give the Missoulian editor a call, sooner than later, and hopefully the athletic department will quit feeding info to Amie. I will probably do my part by informing the new UM president of my views of the Missoulian and the history, and of Florio and perhaps others. My wife and I cancelled our Missoulian subscription a number of years ago.

It's a free country. Missoulian can do what it wants. UM can do what it wants. And the rest of us can do what we want.

 

[1972]

A number of years ago, UM eventually told the Missoulian to back off or they would pull advertising, and they did pull advertising. Over time, the Missoulian backed off. And Florio left. Hopefully, UM will give the Missoulian editor a call, sooner than later, and hopefully the athletic department will quit feeding info to Amie. I will probably do my part by informing the new UM president of my views of the Missoulian and the history, and of Florio and perhaps others. My wife and I cancelled our Missoulian subscription a number of years ago.

It's a free country. Missoulian can do what it wants. UM can do what it wants. And the rest of us can do what we want.

I agree, it's articles like this that are so obviously biased that give them such a bad name, sometimes they need to be reminded, if they don't sell any papers, they don't have a job.

 

[Jaredkuehn]

A number of years ago, UM eventually told the Missoulian to back off or they would pull advertising, and they did pull advertising. Over time, the Missoulian backed off. And Florio left. Hopefully, UM will give the Missoulian editor a call, sooner than later, and hopefully the athletic department will quit feeding info to Amie. I will probably do my part by informing the new UM president of my views of the Missoulian and the history, and of Florio and perhaps others. My wife and I cancelled our Missoulian subscription a number of years ago.

It's a free country. Missoulian can do what it wants. UM can do what it wants. And the rest of us can do what we want.

The Missoulian has led the charge in the Missoula vs UM attitude. It’s not just Grizzly athletics, it’s a campus wide issue. There are so many great things happening on campus, but they don’t want to report on those victories, they only want to report enrollment numbers. As someone whose family works on campus, it’s infuriating.

 

[astutegriz]

“This is literally why Americans don't trust journalists.”
-Dillon Kato, Twitter, Nov 2

Oh, the irony...

 

[PlayerRep]

..missoulian libs trying to take out Bobby..this should get good!

Do you know who owns the Missoulian? The same "libs" that endorsed Gianforte prior to him beating the shit out of a reporter. By the way, I too though the article was slanted and fervently hope Hauck is the next new Griz head coach.

Gianforte didn't beat the shit out of the reporter. The reporter bumped his elbow when they went to the floor. And, I'm told that what GG and his media guy said is what happened. The reporter pulled them down. GG said what he said later in the statement/settlement just to get the issue behind him, and settle any potential claim and/or long drawn out thing. The Fox News people had their backs to GG/reporter, and didn't see how it started. Just saw the guys on the ground.

"Libs" like yourself ought to be more accurate and honest.

 

[Fahque]

..missoulian libs trying to take out Bobby..this should get good!

Do you know who owns the Missoulian? The same "libs" that endorsed Gianforte prior to him beating the shit out of a reporter. By the way, I too though the article was slanted and fervently hope Hauck is the next new Griz head coach.

Gianforte didn't beat the shit out of the reporter. The reporter bumped his elbow when they went to the floor. And, I'm told that what GG and his media guy said is what happened. The reporter pulled them down. GG said what he said later in the statement/settlement just to get the issue behind him, and settle any potential claim and/or long drawn out thing. The Fox News people had their backs to GG/reporter, and didn't see how it started. Just saw the guys on the ground.

"Libs" like yourself ought to be more accurate and honest.

What you just typed is nothing but a big pile of bullshit… You can’t even prove any of that, not to mention that multiple witnesses told a totally different story. My God. Even Gianforte admitted he was the agressor

 

[Triwest]

This is hilariously irresponsible. Good job, Dillon.

What is? The story or all of the examples cited in the article? Most of you seem to forget (or are just ignorant of) the off field issues that took place under Hauck. I hope the Schnozz gets rehired. This ought to be fun.

The parts he included between 2010 and 2013 when Hauck was long gone from this place. Like, why would he include Jordan Johnson, Hauck had nothing to do with that guy.

I can't find anything about Jordan Johnson in his article. Was it updated?

Ummm.... It is in paragraph on Pat Williams

 

[NLGrizFan]

:lol: :lol: I remember now when I quit coming to eBitch :lol: :lol:

 

[CDAGRIZ]

And they wonder why Bobby wouldn't give them the time of day? Sense of entitlement anyone!!

Therein lies the rub. Don't give them access, and they will crucify you. Give them all access, and they will find a way to crucify you. You have to earn their trust. Get to know them. Get them to like you. Invite some of them to a charity scramble or a pancake breakfast. Control the info. Give them some "inside info" they can publish that paints you in a positive light. Play them without them realizing they are being played. It's a brilliant dance that few are able to pull off.

I don't think it would matter what Bobby did, or how nice he was to the Missoulian, there are a few there that could care less, and wouldn't ever do Bobby any favors. Look at all of the misinformation in that article. No wonder Fake News is such a hot topic anymore. Lots of it in that article, I don't think they even care. Anything to sell a paper.

You're looking aft. Look forward. Forward to a place where the Missoulian can think it's relevant in reporting Griz Football. Forward to a place where the Missoulian gets its news from a coach that gives them something. To a place where they get a few tidbits on which PWO might get a scholarship if he keeps it up, or inconsequential nuggets regarding what the new coach is planning against Idaho. To a place where the Missoulian reporters feel wanted and appreciated. That's the thing they want. That's the thing that will get the new guy in good graces.

 

[EverettGriz]

And they wonder why Bobby wouldn't give them the time of day? Sense of entitlement anyone!!

Therein lies the rub. Don't give them access, and they will crucify you. Give them all access, and they will find a way to crucify you. You have to earn their trust. Get to know them. Get them to like you. Invite some of them to a charity scramble or a pancake breakfast. Control the info. Give them some "inside info" they can publish that paints you in a positive light. Play them without them realizing they are being played. It's a brilliant dance that few are able to pull off.

There's a reason CDA was Coach Of The Year in U6, and is revered by the LA area press.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

And they wonder why Bobby wouldn't give them the time of day? Sense of entitlement anyone!!

Therein lies the rub. Don't give them access, and they will crucify you. Give them all access, and they will find a way to crucify you. You have to earn their trust. Get to know them. Get them to like you. Invite some of them to a charity scramble or a pancake breakfast. Control the info. Give them some "inside info" they can publish that paints you in a positive light. Play them without them realizing they are being played. It's a brilliant dance that few are able to pull off.

There's a reason CDA was Coach Of The Year in U6, and is revered by the LA area press.

High praise, as usual. I can't even agree without blushing. It may be true that those from the OC Register and I have had some great talks, and those talks have maybe led to favorable coverage for the Purple Mermaids. I'll just say that this county is a P-Merm county.

 

[Cotton-eyed Hoe]

..missoulian libs trying to take out Bobby..this should get good!

Do you know who owns the Missoulian? The same "libs" that endorsed Gianforte prior to him beating the shit out of a reporter. By the way, I too though the article was slanted and fervently hope Hauck is the next new Griz head coach.

Gianforte didn't beat the shit out of the reporter. The reporter bumped his elbow when they went to the floor. And, I'm told that what GG and his media guy said is what happened. The reporter pulled them down. GG said what he said later in the statement/settlement just to get the issue behind him, and settle any potential claim and/or long drawn out thing. The Fox News people had their backs to GG/reporter, and didn't see how it started. Just saw the guys on the ground.

"Libs" like yourself ought to be more accurate and honest.

What you just typed is nothing but a big pile of bullshit… You can’t even prove any of that, not to mention that multiple witnesses told a totally different story. My God. Even Gianforte admitted he was the agressor

As usual, dumbass/pr has managed to get it completely wrong. No wonder he's a laughing stock in legal circles! :lol:

 

[GrizLA]

Wow ol Dillon trying single handily block Hauck as coach. Have a read of his article!

So Dillion I suggest you complete the same in-depth research on all the Griz coaching candidates at all jobs they have. If you believe they all smell like roses your wrong Dillon.

Also please be fair Dillon and research what legal troubles Hauck teams got into at UNLV as well. While you at it do the same at SDSU as he is associate head coach there!

So, are you saying the things mentioned did not occur? What's wrong with the truth?