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Missoula resident sues University of Montana, Griz player over year-old fight
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retiredpopo said:
There has to be a legal basis or reason for including someone in a suit. There's no legal basis or reason for including UM and the 2 guys in this suit. He, of course, has every right to make a claim against Brown.
By the way, $27,000 seems like a large amount to me. "“At this point I’ve spent at least $5,000, and there’s more to come,” he said in an interview. “My other (front) tooth is wiggly as well.“
cmtgrizzly
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PlayerRep said:
The bolded is how it should be. The fact that it isnt wspeaks to what I think is at the root of our country’s problems. We have evolved into a society that does everything it can to misplace responsibility and our legal system has conditoned our society in this way. No personal responsibility. It is always someone else’s fault and there is always a monetary solution. Could go on and on but no I dont want to rant any further on politics.
Guess I screwed up the boldIng. PR’s first sentence.
I hope this gets thrown out and someone named in the suit gets to sue for damages, What a fucking joke.
BadlandsGrizFan
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PAGriz said:
You mean like taking a year away from his football career you moron?
This lawsuit is ridiculous; UM and Hauck should have little problem getting released on summary judgment.
Brown should not be a member of the Montana Grizzlies football program.
Brown should not be a member of the Montana Grizzlies football program.
EverettGriz said:
So, throwing a punch at a party now disqualifies someone from playing college football, or for the Griz, in your view?
Do you know anything about the circumstances, other than what you read in the article?
Do you know anything about Brown, like what type of person he is and whether he's ever been in trouble before?
Do you think anyone ever deserves to get punched?
Have you ever thrown a punch?
I love the lawyer semantics at work here.
Throwing a punch? No.
Landing a punch which causes serious injuries, yes.
See, I hold people to very standards. Always have, always will. I also believe that the honor of donning a uniform with MONTANA on the front subjects one to a higher level of responsibility. You may feel differently and I’m fine with that.
Throwing a punch? No.
Landing a punch which causes serious injuries, yes.
See, I hold people to very standards. Always have, always will. I also believe that the honor of donning a uniform with MONTANA on the front subjects one to a higher level of responsibility. You may feel differently and I’m fine with that.
retiredpopo
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Lots of things will come in to play. Brown plead guilty to an assault that was an allegedly a sucker punch. We Know Brown is 6'4" and at least 240lbs and a good athlete. Not sure how big Willison is or what kind of background he has but in a civil suit you can bet that will all come in to play. I did some quick googling and there have been coaches and AD's sued because of their actions after the fact of an incidents involving their players. No reason to think that this is the case here but you would hope PR is not the only smart lawyer in the state and whoever is practicing law would do their research. I know nothing about it other than what was written but find it funny everyone jumps to such quick judgements. What if Willison turns out to be a 135 lb all around good kid who was trying to keep his table from being broken and was just trying to shut down the party that was in his apartment? without all the facts nobody knows.
Good thing we have a student-athlete code of conduct that determines whether or not a player will be allowed to stay on a team or be removed.
EverettGriz said:
I don't agree. Fights and punches happen fairly often. Always have; always will.
I believe the University should generally follow its policies set forth in the Student Athlete Guidelines. They doh't call for throwing the player off the team, for this type of incident. I believe the University should look at all of the facts and circumstances, including what was the behind what happened, the type of person Brown is, and whether he has had any other incidents or trouble before this.
I also believe the University should be cognizant of what happens in towns like this, like some people saying crap and N words to blacks and similar words to Indians. In addition, I believe that in this day of great attention to diversity and economic/cultural disparity, that peoples' backgrounds and circumstances should be taken into account by a university. I doubt that Brown grew up like a white guy like yourself grew up, with the privileges and benefits that you had, and the lack of prejudices. I take that into account in the way I live my life, and in how I deal with people and judge (or not judge) them.
This is how people, including students and athletes, learn. Presumably, Hauck et al believe in this kid, and don't believe it would be right to kick him off the team. It looks like he is getting severe discipline, tho.
Just out of curiosity, do you think all police should be fired if they rough up people in dealing with them or arresting them. If they wrongly, or arguably wrongly, tase them, or punch or hit them. It happens quite often in the US. Police almost never get caught or fired for doing that. In your lily white world, you probably don't even know what goes on in the tougher parts of cities, reservations, etc.
Feel free all me a prairie N or something like that to my face sometime out at the bars after a game, and see if I react.
If Stitt recruited Brown, he was pretty thoroughly vetted. Stitt had a list of questions that he asked each recruit and in fact Brown alluded to that in the article (30 minutes answering questions from Stitt). I don't know Brown and don't know what happened, but it seems like he is being held accountable as he should be.
Missoula223
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EverettGriz said:
This is so ignorant. Fights happen, it doesn't make him a bad kid. How many other fights are publicized like ones that involve Griz football players? You don't think public humiliation is a part of his punishment along with everything else Hauck is putting him through?
You don't deal with kids/young adults if you truly believe punching someone in the face should permanently get you kicked off the team, when all you really know is what is printed in an article by the Missoulian.
Where does he go if he's removed from the team? Do you think he should be banned to the streets? Because that's often what happens in cases like these. Don't give me bullshit how he's held to a higher standard and it needs to be treated as such. The simple fact that you've read about it as well as how Hauck (who has much more information that you) is punishing him is already proof that he is being held to a high standard. That kid's paid education could be what ends up feeding his entire family (you don't know his background), you think all that should be taken away for a punch to the face? Give me a break.
bgbigdog said:
The State is willing to stipulate that there is indeed the rare punchable face. Most are directly above a bobcat sweatshirt.
ilovethecats
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EverettGriz said:
:ban:
ilovethecats said:
You spelled it wrong.
