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Let's Get Real

AZGrizFan said:
Eriul said:
AZGrizFan said:
Even if, by some miracle of miracles, the Griz had managed to pull of that win yesterday they were going to go to Fargo and get their asses handed to them on a platter. This was a fatally flawed team from the very beginning and even the worst armchair QB (and those of us who never played the game) could see it. We can try and explain away, reason away, or make excuses but the fact remains that the Griz played on Saturday EXACTLY like they played the entire year against any team that was above average or better: soft, giving up a lot of yards and a lot of points, with a crappy offensive plan that was scrapped in the 4th quarter to mount a frenzied comeback. Sometimes they were successful, a couple times they weren't (EWU, CCU). They weren't going any further in the playoffs regardless of what the final outcome on Saturday was....

Those of you wanting an "official apology", or to "sue the NCAA", or demanding a petition to "replay the game" need to grow the f*** up....you're embarrassing Griz nation with that shit. The better team won, and THAT team is going to go into Fargo and get ass-pounded just like we would have had we pulled it out.


Umm... Weren't you the one wanting to bet $1000 on the griz to cover the spread pre game? I find it interesting that you were so high on is pre game and then post game you say "any arm chair qb saw we were fatally flawed."

Egriz posters are so f***[*] black and white. Either we suck or were incredible. f***[*] stop saying we were horrible because we lost a close game to a good team in which the refs were arguably the determining factor. The griz were a good team with some flaws but ultimately we failed in a CLOSE game.

And people bitching about our play calling, it was bad at times but are you REALLY bitching at out offensive production? You guys do understand we nearly put 600 yard on them right? If you wanna bitch about us not kicking maybe that's a thing but I highly doubt our kickers woulda done anything outside the 20.

I said nothing about black and white. And no matter how "flawed" we might be, history would suggest that we're going to beat ANY Big South team put in front of us, so yes, I was the guy who was certain we'd win. But, we didn't play well enough to win, and it wouldn't have mattered anyway, since we'd get blasted this weekend even if we HAD managed to win. I can at least admit THAT, which you're apparently not able to. The refs were not the determining factor. Not even close. Our team turned the ball over on downs THREE times inside the 30. JJ threw an interception at the worst possible time of the year. We gave up 28 straight points in OUR house in OUR weather to a team from the f***[*] Big South. We got to within 7 points with FIVE FULL MINUTES left in the game and didn't have the ability to get our defense off the field. Hell, even if we HAD won that game we didn't deserve it.


Omfg this is exactly what I'm talking about. You were certain we'd win by 20+, if I recall right you even said we'd win by 30. But if I ignore the sentence about getting within 7 it would sound like we got beat by 30. Seriously dude. You even said something about the interception at the worst time when the refs missed the offsides call on that exact play. Seriously dude it was a close game and we get it you think were a dog shit team and shouldn't be in the playoffs and we were over rated bla bla bla. You're just like every other hard head on here. We lost a CLOSE game where refs severely changed the path of the game. And before you argue that point, I'm just mimicking the commentators thoughts who was in fact a coach and infinitely more qualified than you when it comes to football.
 
I don't think anybody has said this team is incredibly good or incredibly bad throughout this whole year, because they were neither.

Like every other Griz fan I came into this year hoping that JJ coming back and the controversy going away was going to be a stepping stone for a deep playoff run, we had a lot of pieces in place. And early on it seemed to be going that way, a couple blowouts over Appy and UND who we thought were better than they were seemed to be a good omen. But as the year went on it became apparent that this team was not a team that was going to roll to a BSC Championship because, frankly, we weren't good enough. The defense was very up-and-down, disappearing for long stretches in games and forcing the offense to be put into a score-every-time-you-have-the-ball mentality. The offense, in my opinion, was hampered by inconsistent play calling and not adjusting well to the other teams defensive strategy. How many games did we fall in love with plays that didn't work and continually try to force the issue without success? Remember the endless sweeps to the left against Poly, or the game (I forget who against) where we kept throwing the bomb over and over and over (not unlike the CC game) without success? It seems the move-the-chains mentality went away more often than it should have. And obviously all faith was lost in the kicking game, although I'm not sure Worst was as bad as some viewed him.

Look at the games, which game can we point at and say "here is where we proved our dominance"? Poly and USD flat had us beat and we pulled the games out of our ass, if Sac State could have made even one defensive play late they could have beat us too because their offense was going through us like shit through a goose. This team was so close to being 7-5 it wasn't even funny. But they weren't, because this team has a lot of talent and a lot of heart, and found ways to overcome adversity and win games, that's what good teams do.

Fast forward to the end of the year, we blow out Weber and play solid against a banged-up MSU, our defense only gives up 1 TD in 10 quarters. I again, like every other Griz fan, think "maybe we've turned the corner and are primed for a playoff run, the defense seems to be clicking".

Enter CC. We start the game well with two ball-control chain-moving drives for scores on offense and a lot of intensity on defense, soured a bit by the secondary getting burned by the long TD on third and very long. Still, it seems like the game is flowing well, they can't seem to stop us and our defense has them on their heels except for that one play. And then the problems started showing up again. No pressure or containment on their QB, our lineman constantly end up behind the play and the only question is will Ross wait until someone comes open or will he get bored and just run it himself for 12 yards because there is nobody there watching him. That scenario went on for a quarter and a half and 4 TD's.
Our offense is moving the ball well between the 25's, looks good on the stats sheet, but then we get to the 25 and all logic goes out the window. Run for 2 yards and an incompletion and it's 3rd and 8. At this point being down multiple scores and knowing that you're going to go for it on 4th down, partly because this is looking like a shootout and partly because we have absolutely no confidence in the kicking game, the thinking should be 2 plays to get 8 yards. But instead, we throw the ball to the endzone time after time after time even though it hasn't worked once and it is being well defended, and now we're put into a 4th and long situation which any football fan knows has a slim chance of success. That was f'ing terrible...every time. And while on the subject of long passes, it's kind of important for the QB to have enough time for the play to develop, that would mean picking up the blitz which they ran from multiple sets and directions...we didn't do that either. Johnson never had enough time in the pocket, and he took a tremendous beating because of it. He is the toughest guy on this team, I'm amazed he lasted the year.

For the bad ref crowd, yes they were terrible, I can't remember worse. Yes, I think we would have scored from the 2 had the phantom booth replay not occurred. That would have pulled us to within 14, does it mean we would have tied it up later being we lost by 7? Not necessarily. When a team like CC who has had their way offensively all day gets to a certain point of the game their thinking shifts to score and clock. When they stopped us and retained the 21 point lead, their thinking remained "we're up 21 with a little over a quarter remaining, we are working towards getting to that point." Scoring more wasn't their first priority. If we would have scored there, their thinking would have been a little different, they would have been more inclined to open up the playbook more and try to reestablish a 3 score lead. It was the same scenario as SHSU two years ago and EWU earlier this year, open a big lead and start playing the clock later in the game. In all those games the Griz showed a lot of heart and made a big comeback to make it interesting, but we never had the ball at the end of any of them.

I don't want to be labeled a bad fan or come off as negative, but it is what it is, I was pacing in front of my TV Saturday hoping for a stop on the last CC possession as much as any other Griz fan, but them running off the last 5+ minutes of the clock just emphasized what I already knew deep down.

Sorry this went so long, didn't mean to write a novel.
 
JayLarson said:
I have it on DVR and I rewinded it during the game and I don't think anyone could complain if they had called him offsides, he was for sure already moving when the snap took place, and it you are already lined up as a d end on the line of scrimmage and you are moving at the snap, you are more than likely offsides.

I was sitting at the 45 yard line, even with the line of scrimmage. perfect view. He was offside.
 
That was a logical post. I applaud you for that. That's the kind of mentality that griz fans should have. We were a good team. We lost to a good team and it was hella close and if it wasn't for the ref blunders I think people would have enjoyed the game more even in a loss. I'm just surprised about the fact that last week I was flames for telling people it wasn't likely we were going to win by 20+ And then this week I'm seeing those same people posting about how bad our team is and how we don't even deserve to wipe the ass of ccu as they shit on us and there was no ref influence and we may as well have lost by 80. Azgriz is the perfect example of this. Why can't people just be ok with the fact that we were a good team we caught some breaks in the regular season but ccu def caught some in the playoffs. These were two good teams who BOTH deserved to win and both have good programs. I give ccu credit and wish them luck against ndsu. Just so tired of the shitty "we suck our d gave 42 points how can we possibly win a game we don't deserve to." And for everyone who thinks that a team can't be good that gives up 42, I would refer you to who is playing on the national title game in the bcs ;-).
 
jodcon said:
When a team like CC who has had their way offensively all day gets to a certain point of the game their thinking shifts to score and clock. When they stopped us and retained the 21 point lead, their thinking remained "we're up 21 with a little over a quarter remaining, we are working towards getting to that point." Scoring more wasn't their first priority. If we would have scored there, their thinking would have been a little different, they would have been more inclined to open up the playbook more and try to reestablish a 3 score lead. It was the same scenario as SHSU two years ago and EWU earlier this year, open a big lead and start playing the clock later in the game. In all those games the Griz showed a lot of heart and made a big comeback to make it interesting, but we never had the ball at the end of any of them.

i don't agree that those teams went conservative late in the 3rd quarter or even early in the 4th quarter, especially ewu. they went for the jugular, and missed.
 
Eriul said:
AZGrizFan said:
Eriul said:
AZGrizFan said:
Even if, by some miracle of miracles, the Griz had managed to pull of that win yesterday they were going to go to Fargo and get their asses handed to them on a platter. This was a fatally flawed team from the very beginning and even the worst armchair QB (and those of us who never played the game) could see it. We can try and explain away, reason away, or make excuses but the fact remains that the Griz played on Saturday EXACTLY like they played the entire year against any team that was above average or better: soft, giving up a lot of yards and a lot of points, with a crappy offensive plan that was scrapped in the 4th quarter to mount a frenzied comeback. Sometimes they were successful, a couple times they weren't (EWU, CCU). They weren't going any further in the playoffs regardless of what the final outcome on Saturday was....

Those of you wanting an "official apology", or to "sue the NCAA", or demanding a petition to "replay the game" need to grow the f*** up....you're embarrassing Griz nation with that shit. The better team won, and THAT team is going to go into Fargo and get ass-pounded just like we would have had we pulled it out.


Umm... Weren't you the one wanting to bet $1000 on the griz to cover the spread pre game? I find it interesting that you were so high on is pre game and then post game you say "any arm chair qb saw we were fatally flawed."

Egriz posters are so f***[*] black and white. Either we suck or were incredible. f***[*] stop saying we were horrible because we lost a close game to a good team in which the refs were arguably the determining factor. The griz were a good team with some flaws but ultimately we failed in a CLOSE game.

And people bitching about our play calling, it was bad at times but are you REALLY bitching at out offensive production? You guys do understand we nearly put 600 yard on them right? If you wanna bitch about us not kicking maybe that's a thing but I highly doubt our kickers woulda done anything outside the 20.

I said nothing about black and white. And no matter how "flawed" we might be, history would suggest that we're going to beat ANY Big South team put in front of us, so yes, I was the guy who was certain we'd win. But, we didn't play well enough to win, and it wouldn't have mattered anyway, since we'd get blasted this weekend even if we HAD managed to win. I can at least admit THAT, which you're apparently not able to. The refs were not the determining factor. Not even close. Our team turned the ball over on downs THREE times inside the 30. JJ threw an interception at the worst possible time of the year. We gave up 28 straight points in OUR house in OUR weather to a team from the f***[*] Big South. We got to within 7 points with FIVE FULL MINUTES left in the game and didn't have the ability to get our defense off the field. Hell, even if we HAD won that game we didn't deserve it.


Omfg this is exactly what I'm talking about. You were certain we'd win by 20+, if I recall right you even said we'd win by 30. But if I ignore the sentence about getting within 7 it would sound like we got beat by 30. Seriously dude. You even said something about the interception at the worst time when the refs missed the offsides call on that exact play. Seriously dude it was a close game and we get it you think were a dog shit team and shouldn't be in the playoffs and we were over rated bla bla bla. You're just like every other hard head on here. We lost a CLOSE game where refs severely changed the path of the game. And before you argue that point, I'm just mimicking the commentators thoughts who was in fact a coach and infinitely more qualified than you when it comes to football.

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And I am the hard head? :lol: :lol:

You sound like a major league pussy...blaming the refs. If a team doesn't want the refs to impact the game, DON'T GIVE UP 42 POINTS!!! Get a couple turnovers....Stop them and get the ball back! Don't leave it in the hands of the refs to fuck it up, because they inevitably will. Guaranteed.

And at least you admitted you don't have an original thought. :lol:
 
jodcon said:
I don't think anybody has said this team is incredibly good or incredibly bad throughout this whole year, because they were neither.

Like every other Griz fan I came into this year hoping that JJ coming back and the controversy going away was going to be a stepping stone for a deep playoff run, we had a lot of pieces in place. And early on it seemed to be going that way, a couple blowouts over Appy and UND who we thought were better than they were seemed to be a good omen. But as the year went on it became apparent that this team was not a team that was going to roll to a BSC Championship because, frankly, we weren't good enough. The defense was very up-and-down, disappearing for long stretches in games and forcing the offense to be put into a score-every-time-you-have-the-ball mentality. The offense, in my opinion, was hampered by inconsistent play calling and not adjusting well to the other teams defensive strategy. How many games did we fall in love with plays that didn't work and continually try to force the issue without success? Remember the endless sweeps to the left against Poly, or the game (I forget who against) where we kept throwing the bomb over and over and over (not unlike the CC game) without success? It seems the move-the-chains mentality went away more often than it should have. And obviously all faith was lost in the kicking game, although I'm not sure Worst was as bad as some viewed him.

Look at the games, which game can we point at and say "here is where we proved our dominance"? Poly and USD flat had us beat and we pulled the games out of our ass, if Sac State could have made even one defensive play late they could have beat us too because their offense was going through us like shit through a goose. This team was so close to being 7-5 it wasn't even funny. But they weren't, because this team has a lot of talent and a lot of heart, and found ways to overcome adversity and win games, that's what good teams do.

Fast forward to the end of the year, we blow out Weber and play solid against a banged-up MSU, our defense only gives up 1 TD in 10 quarters. I again, like every other Griz fan, think "maybe we've turned the corner and are primed for a playoff run, the defense seems to be clicking".

Enter CC. We start the game well with two ball-control chain-moving drives for scores on offense and a lot of intensity on defense, soured a bit by the secondary getting burned by the long TD on third and very long. Still, it seems like the game is flowing well, they can't seem to stop us and our defense has them on their heels except for that one play. And then the problems started showing up again. No pressure or containment on their QB, our lineman constantly end up behind the play and the only question is will Ross wait until someone comes open or will he get bored and just run it himself for 12 yards because there is nobody there watching him. That scenario went on for a quarter and a half and 4 TD's.
Our offense is moving the ball well between the 25's, looks good on the stats sheet, but then we get to the 25 and all logic goes out the window. Run for 2 yards and an incompletion and it's 3rd and 8. At this point being down multiple scores and knowing that you're going to go for it on 4th down, partly because this is looking like a shootout and partly because we have absolutely no confidence in the kicking game, the thinking should be 2 plays to get 8 yards. But instead, we throw the ball to the endzone time after time after time even though it hasn't worked once and it is being well defended, and now we're put into a 4th and long situation which any football fan knows has a slim chance of success. That was f'ing terrible...every time. And while on the subject of long passes, it's kind of important for the QB to have enough time for the play to develop, that would mean picking up the blitz which they ran from multiple sets and directions...we didn't do that either. Johnson never had enough time in the pocket, and he took a tremendous beating because of it. He is the toughest guy on this team, I'm amazed he lasted the year.

For the bad ref crowd, yes they were terrible, I can't remember worse. Yes, I think we would have scored from the 2 had the phantom booth replay not occurred. That would have pulled us to within 14, does it mean we would have tied it up later being we lost by 7? Not necessarily. When a team like CC who has had their way offensively all day gets to a certain point of the game their thinking shifts to score and clock. When they stopped us and retained the 21 point lead, their thinking remained "we're up 21 with a little over a quarter remaining, we are working towards getting to that point." Scoring more wasn't their first priority. If we would have scored there, their thinking would have been a little different, they would have been more inclined to open up the playbook more and try to reestablish a 3 score lead. It was the same scenario as SHSU two years ago and EWU earlier this year, open a big lead and start playing the clock later in the game. In all those games the Griz showed a lot of heart and made a big comeback to make it interesting, but we never had the ball at the end of any of them.

I don't want to be labeled a bad fan or come off as negative, but it is what it is, I was pacing in front of my TV Saturday hoping for a stop on the last CC possession as much as any other Griz fan, but them running off the last 5+ minutes of the clock just emphasized what I already knew deep down.

Sorry this went so long, didn't mean to write a novel.

Absolutely, 100% Spot ON post. JJ & heart made a 7-5 team a 10-2 team, despite the coaching.
 
Eriul said:
That was a logical post. I applaud you for that. That's the kind of mentality that griz fans should have. We were a good team. We lost to a good team and it was hella close and if it wasn't for the ref blunders I think people would have enjoyed the game more even in a loss. I'm just surprised about the fact that last week I was flames for telling people it wasn't likely we were going to win by 20+ And then this week I'm seeing those same people posting about how bad our team is and how we don't even deserve to wipe the ass of ccu as they shit on us and there was no ref influence and we may as well have lost by 80. Azgriz is the perfect example of this. Why can't people just be ok with the fact that we were a good team we caught some breaks in the regular season but ccu def caught some in the playoffs. These were two good teams who BOTH deserved to win and both have good programs. I give ccu credit and wish them luck against ndsu. Just so tired of the shitty "we suck our d gave 42 points how can we possibly win a game we don't deserve to." And for everyone who thinks that a team can't be good that gives up 42, I would refer you to who is playing on the national title game in the bcs ;-).

You need a reading comprehension lesson, dickweed. That's not even remotely close to what I said. You are Exhibit A for why Montana fans have a bad reputation. If you would just listen to your own advice (bolded sentence) you might not have a heart attack and die. Now, kindly GFY.
 
AllWeatherFan said:
Defense and special teams are the concerns.

I'd keep Gregorak because of the adjustments he's made this year, but I'd have him on a very short leash. We need better overall defensive production, and we need to start games stronger.

Watch how NDSU handles CCU and that will give us a clue about where we need to be.

So please enlighten us on how you keep a coach making jacksquat on a "very short leash"? Do you think UM can actually fire and hire during the course of a season? Like it or not, this staff is going to be back pretty much intact. Hell, what other program would want them?
 
AZGrizFan said:
Eriul said:
That was a logical post. I applaud you for that. That's the kind of mentality that griz fans should have. We were a good team. We lost to a good team and it was hella close and if it wasn't for the ref blunders I think people would have enjoyed the game more even in a loss. I'm just surprised about the fact that last week I was flames for telling people it wasn't likely we were going to win by 20+ And then this week I'm seeing those same people posting about how bad our team is and how we don't even deserve to wipe the ass of ccu as they shit on us and there was no ref influence and we may as well have lost by 80. Azgriz is the perfect example of this. Why can't people just be ok with the fact that we were a good team we caught some breaks in the regular season but ccu def caught some in the playoffs. These were two good teams who BOTH deserved to win and both have good programs. I give ccu credit and wish them luck against ndsu. Just so tired of the shitty "we suck our d gave 42 points how can we possibly win a game we don't deserve to." And for everyone who thinks that a team can't be good that gives up 42, I would refer you to who is playing on the national title game in the bcs ;-).

You need a reading comprehension lesson, dickweed. That's not even remotely close to what I said. You are Exhibit A for why Montana fans have a bad reputation. If you would just listen to your own advice (bolded sentence) you might not have a heart attack and die. Now, kindly

Sorry but what fan base would have anything wrong to say about anything I posted? I'm not the person who was trying to bet 1000 on the griz to "easily cover the spread." All the complaining I heard from ccu fans about montana fans was that montana fans were expecting this game to be easy due to weather. Well I didn't do that, did you? Yes, yes you did. I'm sorry but you're too emotional right now to think logically so you're spewing nonsense. Go remove your tampon, check to see if your done bleeding then come back.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Eriul said:
AZGrizFan said:
Eriul said:
Umm... Weren't you the one wanting to bet $1000 on the griz to cover the spread pre game? I find it interesting that you were so high on is pre game and then post game you say "any arm chair qb saw we were fatally flawed."

Egriz posters are so f***[*] black and white. Either we suck or were incredible. f***[*] stop saying we were horrible because we lost a close game to a good team in which the refs were arguably the determining factor. The griz were a good team with some flaws but ultimately we failed in a CLOSE game.

And people bitching about our play calling, it was bad at times but are you REALLY bitching at out offensive production? You guys do understand we nearly put 600 yard on them right? If you wanna bitch about us not kicking maybe that's a thing but I highly doubt our kickers woulda done anything outside the 20.

I said nothing about black and white. And no matter how "flawed" we might be, history would suggest that we're going to beat ANY Big South team put in front of us, so yes, I was the guy who was certain we'd win. But, we didn't play well enough to win, and it wouldn't have mattered anyway, since we'd get blasted this weekend even if we HAD managed to win. I can at least admit THAT, which you're apparently not able to. The refs were not the determining factor. Not even close. Our team turned the ball over on downs THREE times inside the 30. JJ threw an interception at the worst possible time of the year. We gave up 28 straight points in OUR house in OUR weather to a team from the f***[*] Big South. We got to within 7 points with FIVE FULL MINUTES left in the game and didn't have the ability to get our defense off the field. Hell, even if we HAD won that game we didn't deserve it.


Omfg this is exactly what I'm talking about. You were certain we'd win by 20+, if I recall right you even said we'd win by 30. But if I ignore the sentence about getting within 7 it would sound like we got beat by 30. Seriously dude. You even said something about the interception at the worst time when the refs missed the offsides call on that exact play. Seriously dude it was a close game and we get it you think were a dog shit team and shouldn't be in the playoffs and we were over rated bla bla bla. You're just like every other hard head on here. We lost a CLOSE game where refs severely changed the path of the game. And before you argue that point, I'm just mimicking the commentators thoughts who was in fact a coach and infinitely more qualified than you when it comes to football.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
And I am the hard head? :lol: :lol:

You sound like a major league pussy...blaming the refs. If a team doesn't want the refs to impact the game, DON'T GIVE UP 42 POINTS!!! Get a couple turnovers....Stop them and get the ball back! Don't leave it in the hands of the refs to f*** it up, because they inevitably will. Guaranteed.

And at least you admitted you don't have an original thought. :lol:

Sorry who won the sec championship game and what was the score? Hmm... Sorry that you think we're just a dogshit team 1 week after predicting we'd win by 20+
 
Eriul said:
Sorry that you think we're just a dogshit team 1 week after predicting we'd win by 20+

I didn't overestimate Griz abilities...I UNDERESTIMATED Coastal's abilities. Big difference.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Eriul said:
Sorry that you think we're just a dogshit team 1 week after predicting we'd win by 20+

I didn't overestimate Griz abilities...I UNDERESTIMATED Coastal's abilities. Big difference.


Really? So you honestly though a team that "any armchair qb knew was fatally flawed" would beat coastal Carolina by 20+ because of how bad they were?

Wow... So you thought coastal Carolina(10-2) was on the level of play as a weber, North Dakota, idaho state, etc.? Because by your analysis I would say you think the griz are god awful and if we beat someone by 20 they must be bad. Hmm and to think I got flamed prior to the game for telling people they're disrespecting ccu.
 
Eriul said:
Really? So you honestly though a team that "any armchair qb knew was fatally flawed" would beat coastal Carolina by 20+ because of how bad they were?

Wow... So you thought coastal Carolina(10-2) was on the level of play as a weber, North Dakota, idaho state, etc.? Because by your analysis I would say you think the griz are god awful and if we beat someone by 20 they must be bad. Hmm and to think I got flamed prior to the game for telling people they're disrespecting ccu.

Uh...we beat Weber by 36, not 20. We be UND by 38, not 20. We beat PSU by 28...I looked at CCU as about the equivalent of PSU, but coming from a historically weak conference, with little/no playoff experience, cross country travel, and buying into the weather hype, being intimidated by Wa/Griz's reputation. With all that I figured even our fatally flawed team could still beat them handily. I was wrong. Why is that so hard for YOU to admit?
 
AZGrizFan said:
Eriul said:
Really? So you honestly though a team that "any armchair qb knew was fatally flawed" would beat coastal Carolina by 20+ because of how bad they were?

Wow... So you thought coastal Carolina(10-2) was on the level of play as a weber, North Dakota, idaho state, etc.? Because by your analysis I would say you think the griz are god awful and if we beat someone by 20 they must be bad. Hmm and to think I got flamed prior to the game for telling people they're disrespecting ccu.

Uh...we beat Weber by 36, not 20. We be UND by 38, not 20. We beat PSU by 28...I looked at CCU as about the equivalent of PSU, but coming from a historically weak conference, with little/no playoff experience, cross country travel, and buying into the weather hype, being intimidated by Wa/Griz's reputation. With all that I figured even our fatally flawed team could still beat them handily. I was wrong. Why is that so hard for YOU to admit?

You thought a 10-2 team was on the level of psu. And actually just found it you predicted a 38-10 win for us. So a 28 point win. Hmm... I wonder what fan bases hate more a fan who points out ref errors or one who enormously disrespects their team. *yawn*
 
Eriul said:
AZGrizFan said:
Eriul said:
Really? So you honestly though a team that "any armchair qb knew was fatally flawed" would beat coastal Carolina by 20+ because of how bad they were?

Wow... So you thought coastal Carolina(10-2) was on the level of play as a weber, North Dakota, idaho state, etc.? Because by your analysis I would say you think the griz are god awful and if we beat someone by 20 they must be bad. Hmm and to think I got flamed prior to the game for telling people they're disrespecting ccu.

Uh...we beat Weber by 36, not 20. We be UND by 38, not 20. We beat PSU by 28...I looked at CCU as about the equivalent of PSU, but coming from a historically weak conference, with little/no playoff experience, cross country travel, and buying into the weather hype, being intimidated by Wa/Griz's reputation. With all that I figured even our fatally flawed team could still beat them handily. I was wrong. Why is that so hard for YOU to admit?

You thought a 10-2 team was on the level of psu. And actually just found it you predicted a 38-10 win for us. So a 28 point win. Hmm... I wonder what fan bases hate more a fan who points out ref errors or one who enormously disrespects their team. *yawn*

This guy gets it, Az is a bad fan that tries to out shout people that disagree with him. Why waste your time on a person like that?
 
Big G said:
Eriul said:
AZGrizFan said:
Eriul said:
Really? So you honestly though a team that "any armchair qb knew was fatally flawed" would beat coastal Carolina by 20+ because of how bad they were?

Wow... So you thought coastal Carolina(10-2) was on the level of play as a weber, North Dakota, idaho state, etc.? Because by your analysis I would say you think the griz are god awful and if we beat someone by 20 they must be bad. Hmm and to think I got flamed prior to the game for telling people they're disrespecting ccu.

Uh...we beat Weber by 36, not 20. We be UND by 38, not 20. We beat PSU by 28...I looked at CCU as about the equivalent of PSU, but coming from a historically weak conference, with little/no playoff experience, cross country travel, and buying into the weather hype, being intimidated by Wa/Griz's reputation. With all that I figured even our fatally flawed team could still beat them handily. I was wrong. Why is that so hard for YOU to admit?

You thought a 10-2 team was on the level of psu. And actually just found it you predicted a 38-10 win for us. So a 28 point win. Hmm... I wonder what fan bases hate more a fan who points out ref errors or one who enormously disrespects their team. *yawn*

This guy gets it, Az is a bad fan that tries to out shout people that disagree with him. Why waste your time on a person like that?

Yah, I dunno. He's calling me a crybaby when he's the one crying because I called him out for his obvious flaws. But I wouldn't call them fatal flaws :P.
 
To tell you the truth, if I were betting money even if we had made it to overtime I would have bet CC pulls out the win. I'm still pissed off as all hell about the refs blowing it though and think they SHOULD apologize or be reprimanded for that f*ckup.

Now why do I think CC probably would have won the game? Well one big reason is we did not stop them or hold them to a field goal even once when they got inside the 30. TD, TD, TD, TD. They went 4-4 with 4 TDs inside the 30.

What did we do when we got inside the 30? TD, TD, Turnover on downs, Turnover on downs, TD, Turnover on downs, TD, INT. We went 4-8 with 4 TDs, and basically 4 turnovers when inside the 30. Not good.

So starting each drive at the 25 in overtime, with the fact that we struggled once we got down in that area I have to give the edge to CC. Our tendency to go for the home run ball instead of first downs when down there really hurt us and likely would have hurt us in OT too. I could be wrong though of course and maybe we would have been a little more sane in OT.

Still... fuck those refs.
 
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