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Let me get this straight...

PlayerRep said:
grizcountry420 said:
PlayerRep said:
grizcountry420 said:
and we can all agree that Gregorak is a sh!tty D Cordinator..... :coffee:

Gregorak is a terrific coach and a good d-coordinator. He's done a terrific job replacing most of the defense. Of the starters, all that returned were Tully and JP (who had replaced Tripp). There are only 2 senior defensive players. That's alot to replace. Trying to hold off offenses of teams that have gotten more turnovers than all but one team in FCS, is not easy. Also, coaches have to work with the players they have on the roster.

You must have been a Kraig Paulsen fan too. Tully and JP are not the only guys who played last year on defense.. Your missing quit a few guys like: Herm, Harris, Coyle, ect.. Gregorak like to fool you by is raw raw emotions which he hides behind.. He takes no chances what so ever, he brings little pressure, he makes no adjustments.. i can go on and on about it but i would just be wasting my time...

I said "starters". Do you understand what that means? Of course, other people played last year. Gregorak brings pressure and takes risks at times. The linebackers have 4 of UM's 14 sacks. Tripp leads the team in tackles for loss. Only Wagenman has more sacks than Tripp.

Please stop sucking his dick, your lips are getting chapped... :coffee:
 
grizcountry420 said:
PlayerRep said:
grizcountry420 said:
PlayerRep said:
Gregorak is a terrific coach and a good d-coordinator. He's done a terrific job replacing most of the defense. Of the starters, all that returned were Tully and JP (who had replaced Tripp). There are only 2 senior defensive players. That's alot to replace. Trying to hold off offenses of teams that have gotten more turnovers than all but one team in FCS, is not easy. Also, coaches have to work with the players they have on the roster.

You must have been a Kraig Paulsen fan too. Tully and JP are not the only guys who played last year on defense.. Your missing quit a few guys like: Herm, Harris, Coyle, ect.. Gregorak like to fool you by is raw raw emotions which he hides behind.. He takes no chances what so ever, he brings little pressure, he makes no adjustments.. i can go on and on about it but i would just be wasting my time...

I said "starters". Do you understand what that means? Of course, other people played last year. Gregorak brings pressure and takes risks at times. The linebackers have 4 of UM's 14 sacks. Tripp leads the team in tackles for loss. Only Wagenman has more sacks than Tripp.

Please stop sucking his dick, your lips are getting chapped... :coffee:

Do you have anything to refute the stats he posted, or do you have nothing but dick jokes left?
 
I had/have better hopes for this defense. While we lost 9 starters to graduation including 2 NFL draft picks, I thought the amount of rotated in experience for many of the players would lead to a minimal drop-off. However I think for the most part you look at Wagenmann, Bienemann, Takai, Rehm, Coyle, Stuberg, & Tripp (so to say) as guys that shared snaps last year and they're working out pretty well. Then you look at Murray, Hermanson, Tully who shared some time and Harris and Goodwin who are new to playing as well as Dennard who has changed sides of the field and you've got a real mixed bag.
 
BWahlberg said:
I had/have better hopes for this defense. While we lost 9 starters to graduation including 2 NFL draft picks, I thought the amount of rotated in experience for many of the players would lead to a minimal drop-off. However I think for the most part you look at Wagenmann, Bienemann, Takai, Rehm, Coyle, Stuberg, & Tripp (so to say) as guys that shared snaps last year and they're working out pretty well. Then you look at Murray, Hermanson, Tully who shared some time and Harris and Goodwin who are new to playing as well as Dennard who has changed sides of the field and you've got a real mixed bag.

Murray, Tully & Hermanson all have taken big steps backwards. Harris is raw, Dennard is still learning the position and Godwin seems lost out there sometimes....I think "mixed bag" is being kind. But I don't think all is lost. They're all young....with the right coaching they've got nowhere to go but up.
 
AZGrizFan said:
BWahlberg said:
I had/have better hopes for this defense. While we lost 9 starters to graduation including 2 NFL draft picks, I thought the amount of rotated in experience for many of the players would lead to a minimal drop-off. However I think for the most part you look at Wagenmann, Bienemann, Takai, Rehm, Coyle, Stuberg, & Tripp (so to say) as guys that shared snaps last year and they're working out pretty well. Then you look at Murray, Hermanson, Tully who shared some time and Harris and Goodwin who are new to playing as well as Dennard who has changed sides of the field and you've got a real mixed bag.

Murray, Tully & Hermanson all have taken big steps backwards. Harris is raw, Dennard is still learning the position and Godwin seems lost out there sometimes....I think "mixed bag" is being kind. But I don't think all is lost. They're all young....with the right coaching they've got nowhere to go but up.


When it clicked second half sat it was pretty darn good..... Whether it was luck or coaching I don't know.
 
I'd classify it this way:

Hermanson - slump, not sure if he's regressing and a lost cause, can't count him out yet.

Tully - This is his 3rd year on the field, just not seeing enough, I think needs to go to 2nd string for now

Murray - Had lots of hopes in him but this is just his 1st year starting, will be a senior next year I think, Probably our best corner right now but that's not saying much

Dennard and Harris - Great description for them, both are raw and young, I think both will be better as the season goes on and next year as well.

Goodwin - great flashes of shut-down coverage. Follows the path of many JuCos - ups and downs his first year, could be great his senior year (much like Roots and Dodson)

Whitted - Needs more time at corner, out of football for a season and then switches from safety to corner.

Nelson - Redshirting, could be a dark-horse next year to make an impact, has good size/speed but looked/played like a true frosh at the position, needs to build experience/confidence in what he's doing.

Gratton - Not sure on him yet, needs more time.
 
It should be pointed out that the TD to get EWU within 2 was well covered, we just had a short corner guarding a 6-5 WR who just went up over him and got the ball. Now coverage overall in that game was pretty bad, but that one play (and a few others in the 2nd half) give some hope as they did make some improvements.
 
Htowngriz said:
grizcountry420 said:
PlayerRep said:
grizcountry420 said:
You must have been a Kraig Paulsen fan too. Tully and JP are not the only guys who played last year on defense.. Your missing quit a few guys like: Herm, Harris, Coyle, ect.. Gregorak like to fool you by is raw raw emotions which he hides behind.. He takes no chances what so ever, he brings little pressure, he makes no adjustments.. i can go on and on about it but i would just be wasting my time...

I said "starters". Do you understand what that means? Of course, other people played last year. Gregorak brings pressure and takes risks at times. The linebackers have 4 of UM's 14 sacks. Tripp leads the team in tackles for loss. Only Wagenman has more sacks than Tripp.

Please stop sucking his dick, your lips are getting chapped... :coffee:

Do you have anything to refute the stats he posted, or do you have nothing but dick jokes left?

There is nothing to refute. The guy always has to be right. Our defense this year is SOFT! Gregorak only knows how to run a cover 2 and a cover 4 defense. Once in a great while he'll blitz a LB but pretty much he just likes to have our D sit back and let them come to us. It should be the other way around. DB's are giving the wideouts 12-15 yards before the ball is even snapped.. No pressure defense what so ever. There is nothing wrong against bringing the house ever once in a while or blitz a corner from the edge. He is the exact same spitting image of Paulsen and it drives me nuts..
 
grizcountry420 said:
There is nothing to refute. The guy always has to be right. Our defense this year is SOFT! Gregorak only knows how to run a cover 2 and a cover 4 defense. Once in a great while he'll blitz a LB but pretty much he just like to have our D sit back and let them come to us. It should be the other way around. DB's are giving the wideouts 12-15 yards before the ball is even snapped.. No pressure defense what so ever. There is nothing wrong against bringing the house ever once in a while or blitz a corner from the edge. He is the exact same spitting image of Paulsen and it drives me nuts..

Problem is even last year we got burned way too many times "bringing the house" and this was with good and experienced players..... I hate to think what a pressure defense would do this year. I'm not trying to negative but we can't do consistently what we are doing with what we've got, HOW can we do more......... (in time perhaps)
 
BWahlberg said:
I'd classify it this way:

Hermanson - slump, not sure if he's regressing and a lost cause, can't count him out yet.

Tully - This is his 3rd year on the field, just not seeing enough, I think needs to go to 2nd string for now

Murray - Had lots of hopes in him but this is just his 1st year starting, will be a senior next year I think, Probably our best corner right now but that's not saying much

Dennard and Harris - Great description for them, both are raw and young, I think both will be better as the season goes on and next year as well.

Goodwin - great flashes of shut-down coverage. Follows the path of many JuCos - ups and downs his first year, could be great his senior year (much like Roots and Dodson)

Whitted - Needs more time at corner, out of football for a season and then switches from safety to corner.

Nelson - Redshirting, could be a dark-horse next year to make an impact, has good size/speed but looked/played like a true frosh at the position, needs to build experience/confidence in what he's doing.

Gratton - Not sure on him yet, needs more time.



i believe this is a fair evaluation of our four deep,,,at the end of e. washington game safties should always be deeper than the deepest and foul if necesaary (pass interference), in run support, work on breaking down and making the sure tackle...if we think about how much better we all were as a senior vs. a sophomore or even a junior, these guys will learn from these game situations and be pretty darn good imo...
the old saying appies here "good judgement comes from expierence and allot of that comes from bad judgement"...
 
tnt said:
grizcountry420 said:
There is nothing to refute. The guy always has to be right. Our defense this year is SOFT! Gregorak only knows how to run a cover 2 and a cover 4 defense. Once in a great while he'll blitz a LB but pretty much he just like to have our D sit back and let them come to us. It should be the other way around. DB's are giving the wideouts 12-15 yards before the ball is even snapped.. No pressure defense what so ever. There is nothing wrong against bringing the house ever once in a while or blitz a corner from the edge. He is the exact same spitting image of Paulsen and it drives me nuts..

Problem is even last year we got burned way too many times "bringing the house" and this was with good and experienced players..... I hate to think what a pressure defense would do this year. I'm not trying to negative but we can't do consistently what we are doing with what we've got, HOW can we do more......... (in time perhaps)

I missed the entire 3rd quarter of the EWU game, but my understanding is we did EXACTLY that in third quarter and that's what was successful? :?
 
tnt said:
grizcountry420 said:
There is nothing to refute. The guy always has to be right. Our defense this year is SOFT! Gregorak only knows how to run a cover 2 and a cover 4 defense. Once in a great while he'll blitz a LB but pretty much he just like to have our D sit back and let them come to us. It should be the other way around. DB's are giving the wideouts 12-15 yards before the ball is even snapped.. No pressure defense what so ever. There is nothing wrong against bringing the house ever once in a while or blitz a corner from the edge. He is the exact same spitting image of Paulsen and it drives me nuts..

Problem is even last year we got burned way too many times "bringing the house" and this was with good and experienced players..... I hate to think what a pressure defense would do this year. I'm not trying to negative but we can't do consistently what we are doing with what we've got, HOW can we do more......... (in time perhaps)

I not saying bring the house every play but once in a while like on 3rd down sneak it in there though... He also needs to make better adjustments. Shit, we should all be thankful that EWU stuck with the run for so long. Once they stopped running the ball, boy did they light us up! We couldnt stop it..
 
snap said:
Anyone know why Coogan hasn't seen time?


Unfortunately, Coogan's career is over from that neck/ spine injury that occured during camp. His injury hurt
the secondary too. He was a junior coming in. Just his presence in the deep middle would have "cleaned" things up a bit. No receiver would want any part of him coming over the middle. Plus he was a born tackler.
 
grizcountry420 said:
Htowngriz said:
grizcountry420 said:
PlayerRep said:
I said "starters". Do you understand what that means? Of course, other people played last year. Gregorak brings pressure and takes risks at times. The linebackers have 4 of UM's 14 sacks. Tripp leads the team in tackles for loss. Only Wagenman has more sacks than Tripp.

Please stop sucking his dick, your lips are getting chapped... :coffee:

Do you have anything to refute the stats he posted, or do you have nothing but dick jokes left?

There is nothing to refute. The guy always has to be right. Our defense this year is SOFT! Gregorak only knows how to run a cover 2 and a cover 4 defense. Once in a great while he'll blitz a LB but pretty much he just likes to have our D sit back and let them come to us. It should be the other way around. DB's are giving the wideouts 12-15 yards before the ball is even snapped.. No pressure defense what so ever. There is nothing wrong against bringing the house ever once in a while or blitz a corner from the edge. He is the exact same spitting image of Paulsen and it drives me nuts..

How many corner blitzes have you seen this year? Safety blitzes? Breske seems to have taken these pages from the playbook with him when he left. Those are easily established numbers that can be compared to last year. Gregorak is just not as aggressive as Breske was. Yes, circumstances and players have changed but for me it's simply a question of the coaches' philosophical perspectives. I miss the aggressive approach.
 
Ursa Major said:
grizcountry420 said:
Htowngriz said:
grizcountry420 said:
Please stop sucking his dick, your lips are getting chapped... :coffee:

Do you have anything to refute the stats he posted, or do you have nothing but dick jokes left?

There is nothing to refute. The guy always has to be right. Our defense this year is SOFT! Gregorak only knows how to run a cover 2 and a cover 4 defense. Once in a great while he'll blitz a LB but pretty much he just likes to have our D sit back and let them come to us. It should be the other way around. DB's are giving the wideouts 12-15 yards before the ball is even snapped.. No pressure defense what so ever. There is nothing wrong against bringing the house ever once in a while or blitz a corner from the edge. He is the exact same spitting image of Paulsen and it drives me nuts..

How many corner blitzes have you seen this year? Safety blitzes? Breske seems to have taken these pages from the playbook with him when he left. Those are easily established numbers that can be compared to last year. Gregorak is just not as aggressive as Breske was. Yes, circumstances and players have changed but for me it's simply a question of the coaches' philosophical perspectives. I miss the aggressive approach.

I havent seen any this year and thats what im trying to say.. I miss the aggressive approach too.
 
grizcountry420 said:
Htowngriz said:
grizcountry420 said:
PlayerRep said:
I said "starters". Do you understand what that means? Of course, other people played last year. Gregorak brings pressure and takes risks at times. The linebackers have 4 of UM's 14 sacks. Tripp leads the team in tackles for loss. Only Wagenman has more sacks than Tripp.

Please stop sucking his dick, your lips are getting chapped... :coffee:

I could be wrong but I think Paulson was much better in the red zone than this year. Also, what was the win/loss ratio for him?
Do you have anything to refute the stats he posted, or do you have nothing but dick jokes left?

There is nothing to refute. The guy always has to be right. Our defense this year is SOFT! Gregorak only knows how to run a cover 2 and a cover 4 defense. Once in a great while he'll blitz a LB but pretty much he just likes to have our D sit back and let them come to us. It should be the other way around. DB's are giving the wideouts 12-15 yards before the ball is even snapped.. No pressure defense what so ever. There is nothing wrong against bringing the house ever once in a while or blitz a corner from the edge. He is the exact same spitting image of Paulsen and it drives me nuts..
 
Ursa Major said:
grizcountry420 said:
Htowngriz said:
grizcountry420 said:
Please stop sucking his dick, your lips are getting chapped... :coffee:

Do you have anything to refute the stats he posted, or do you have nothing but dick jokes left?

There is nothing to refute. The guy always has to be right. Our defense this year is SOFT! Gregorak only knows how to run a cover 2 and a cover 4 defense. Once in a great while he'll blitz a LB but pretty much he just likes to have our D sit back and let them come to us. It should be the other way around. DB's are giving the wideouts 12-15 yards before the ball is even snapped.. No pressure defense what so ever. There is nothing wrong against bringing the house ever once in a while or blitz a corner from the edge. He is the exact same spitting image of Paulsen and it drives me nuts..

How many corner blitzes have you seen this year? Safety blitzes? Breske seems to have taken these pages from the playbook with him when he left. Those are easily established numbers that can be compared to last year. Gregorak is just not as aggressive as Breske was. Yes, circumstances and players have changed but for me it's simply a question of the coaches' philosophical perspectives. I miss the aggressive approach.

Fair enough, but is it really a good idea to blitz from the secondary when they can barely do their jobs as it is?
 
Ursa Major said:
grizcountry420 said:
Htowngriz said:
grizcountry420 said:
Please stop sucking his dick, your lips are getting chapped... :coffee:

Do you have anything to refute the stats he posted, or do you have nothing but dick jokes left?

There is nothing to refute. The guy always has to be right. Our defense this year is SOFT! Gregorak only knows how to run a cover 2 and a cover 4 defense. Once in a great while he'll blitz a LB but pretty much he just likes to have our D sit back and let them come to us. It should be the other way around. DB's are giving the wideouts 12-15 yards before the ball is even snapped.. No pressure defense what so ever. There is nothing wrong against bringing the house ever once in a while or blitz a corner from the edge. He is the exact same spitting image of Paulsen and it drives me nuts..

How many corner blitzes have you seen this year? Safety blitzes? Breske seems to have taken these pages from the playbook with him when he left. Those are easily established numbers that can be compared to last year. Gregorak is just not as aggressive as Breske was. Yes, circumstances and players have changed but for me it's simply a question of the coaches' philosophical perspectives. I miss the aggressive approach.

No one is as aggressive as Breske. No one likes to blitz more. Some people believe Breske is too aggressive. Defensive calls also depend on the personnel on the field.
 
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