Krakauer

[first11]

The grand obsession.....

I can readily consider much bigger fish and cronies that invite such attention from mr K

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

I have begun to take this guy's Horse Crap personal. I have personally been a teammate of the relatives of the young man this guy has selected to destroy in order to fatten his wallet.The family I know were the cream of the american family structure. and I am fed the hell up of with his nonsense in the name of Journalism. He obviously has been a failure,somewhere in his unsuccessful endeavor to overcome a small man complex. How in the hell does he command an audience? Should he ever come to Texas, I would love to have a good old man to man Montana discussion.

I'm in Texas too. Please call me when it happen and I'll gladly help in the "discussion".

Me three....I can be anywhere inf DFW within the hour. lol

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

My opinion:
This is a lot of hoops to go through to find out that the kangaroo court made many errors in the case which originally convicted JJ, then the appeal was denied via rubber stamp by the President, and subsequently the Commissioner reversed the decision after seeing how JJ was denied due process and also discovering that the Court responsible for JJ's trial was led by the Dean of Students who befriended the alleged victim and promised her justice. There is no conspiracy as Krakauer believers, rather this is a correction of an injustice against an accused UM student. When this all comes out, I believe that the former Dean of Students and former President will have the black eyes.

well said and done in one paragraph,,,this is what happened imo....the U will have some explaining to do when the facts about the investigation are open to the light.....

You know thats not how it will be written tho

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Krakwhore is just picking on the little guy as apposed to having to deal with real journalist and backlash with the bigger stories, actually relevant stories.

Why isnt he down in Waco with Baylor or banging on the doors of Michigan State?

Answer is because hed get his dick kicked in by those big time schools.

 

[Gaeilge1]

What gets me is the fact that the judge in Helena agreed to the release of these documents after they are heavily redacted to protect the privacy of those involved. You would have to be living on another planet these past years not to be able to fill in those redacted blanks once the documents are made public! How is this going to protect anyones privacy?

 

[EverettGriz]

What gets me is the fact that the judge in Helena agreed to the release of these documents after they are heavily redacted to protect the privacy of those involved. You would have to be living on another planet these past years not to be able to fill in those redacted blanks once the documents are made public! How is this going to protect anyones privacy?

Yeah, it's a joke. To be fair, it's probably the correct decision based on law. But even the Missoulian story lists Johnson three times by name. I mean, what's the point of redaction now?

 

[statler & waldorf]

When his bloated corpse is finally found, the list of suspects will be filled in with just this thread. Not that he hasn't made a whole list of enemies by all his bullshit already.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

When his bloated corpse is finally found, the list of suspects will be filled in with just this thread. Not that he hasn't made a whole list of enemies by all his bullshit already.

Its Montana brother...they dont find the bodies here.....

Theres some nice plots out by Jordan the old Casino Bosses would probably be willing to discount egriz on...hahaha

 

[go96griz]

My opinion:
This is a lot of hoops to go through to find out that the kangaroo court made many errors in the case which originally convicted JJ, then the appeal was denied via rubber stamp by the President, and subsequently the Commissioner reversed the decision after seeing how JJ was denied due process and also discovering that the Court responsible for JJ's trial was led by the Dean of Students who befriended the alleged victim and promised her justice. There is no conspiracy as Krakauer believers, rather this is a correction of an injustice against an accused UM student. When this all comes out, I believe that the former Dean of Students and former President will have the black eyes.

well said and done in one paragraph,,,this is what happened imo....the U will have some explaining to do when the facts about the investigation are open to the light.....

You know thats not how it will be written tho

Agreed, but I think it's pretty obvious why U of M paid JJ a $245,000 settlement. It surely won't fit Krakauer's agenda, however.

 

[PlayerRep]

It looks to me like this will get appealed to the MT Sup Ct. Krakauer just wants to get more attention and press for his book and himself, I assume. What occurred back then isn't going to be very relevant, because my understanding is the UM or the university system has changed their rules and procedures in this area.

 

[PlayerRep]

What gets me is the fact that the judge in Helena agreed to the release of these documents after they are heavily redacted to protect the privacy of those involved. You would have to be living on another planet these past years not to be able to fill in those redacted blanks once the documents are made public! How is this going to protect anyones privacy?

Yeah, it's a joke. To be fair, it's probably the correct decision based on law. But even the Missoulian story lists Johnson three times by name. I mean, what's the point of redaction now?

Why is it probably the "correct decision based on law"? Do you know the law on this?

 

[EverettGriz]

What gets me is the fact that the judge in Helena agreed to the release of these documents after they are heavily redacted to protect the privacy of those involved. You would have to be living on another planet these past years not to be able to fill in those redacted blanks once the documents are made public! How is this going to protect anyones privacy?

Yeah, it's a joke. To be fair, it's probably the correct decision based on law. But even the Missoulian story lists Johnson three times by name. I mean, what's the point of redaction now?

Why is it probably the "correct decision based on law"? Do you know the law on this?

Yes.

 

[bgbigdog]

Back for more cash, pretty simple.

 

[srgrizizen]

My opinion:
This is a lot of hoops to go through to find out that the kangaroo court made many errors in the case which originally convicted JJ, then the appeal was denied via rubber stamp by the President, and subsequently the Commissioner reversed the decision after seeing how JJ was denied due process and also discovering that the Court responsible for JJ's trial was led by the Dean of Students who befriended the alleged victim and promised her justice. There is no conspiracy as Krakauer believers, rather this is a correction of an injustice against an accused UM student. When this all comes out, I believe that the former Dean of Students and former President will have the black eyes.

well said and done in one paragraph,,,this is what happened imo....the U will have some explaining to do when the facts about the investigation are open to the light.....

Whatever else motivates him, isn't trying to get the facts about the investigation exactly what Krakauer is doing?

 

[PlayerRep]

What gets me is the fact that the judge in Helena agreed to the release of these documents after they are heavily redacted to protect the privacy of those involved. You would have to be living on another planet these past years not to be able to fill in those redacted blanks once the documents are made public! How is this going to protect anyones privacy?

Yeah, it's a joke. To be fair, it's probably the correct decision based on law. But even the Missoulian story lists Johnson three times by name. I mean, what's the point of redaction now?

Why is it probably the "correct decision based on law"? Do you know the law on this?

Yes.

Okay, then tell us what the law is and why it's a correct decision based on the law. I don't think it's a correct decision, and don't agree with most of what the judge has done along the way.

 

[PlayerRep]

My opinion:
This is a lot of hoops to go through to find out that the kangaroo court made many errors in the case which originally convicted JJ, then the appeal was denied via rubber stamp by the President, and subsequently the Commissioner reversed the decision after seeing how JJ was denied due process and also discovering that the Court responsible for JJ's trial was led by the Dean of Students who befriended the alleged victim and promised her justice. There is no conspiracy as Krakauer believers, rather this is a correction of an injustice against an accused UM student. When this all comes out, I believe that the former Dean of Students and former President will have the black eyes.

well said and done in one paragraph,,,this is what happened imo....the U will have some explaining to do when the facts about the investigation are open to the light.....

Whatever else motivates him, isn't trying to get the facts about the investigation exactly what Krakauer is doing?

About the investigation or about what was involved in the later stages of UM's decision?

Many of the docs in the initial investigation by the dean were made public in a federal court case long ago. The facts of what occurred that night and thereafter are in the transcripts of an almost 3 week trial. Most people believe Krakauer has already gotten ahold of a confidential almost 30 page report done by university system counsel, i.e. the one that apparently outlined all of the mistakes by the dean and UM and which resulted in UM deciding to allow Mr. Doe to continue in school with his scholarship and then resulted in the $245,000 payment to Mr. Doe. Paoli's earlier filing indicated that he believes Krakauer obtained some of the file illegally, and now is just trying to get the court to bless that it is okay for him to have it. Why has Krakauer and his lawyer resisted saying/showing what he already has, and resisted allowing the other side to depose him?

 

[signedbewildered]

My opinion:
This is a lot of hoops to go through to find out that the kangaroo court made many errors in the case which originally convicted JJ, then the appeal was denied via rubber stamp by the President, and subsequently the Commissioner reversed the decision after seeing how JJ was denied due process and also discovering that the Court responsible for JJ's trial was led by the Dean of Students who befriended the alleged victim and promised her justice. There is no conspiracy as Krakauer believers, rather this is a correction of an injustice against an accused UM student. When this all comes out, I believe that the former Dean of Students and former President will have the black eyes.

well said and done in one paragraph,,,this is what happened imo....the U will have some explaining to do when the facts about the investigation are open to the light.....

Whatever else motivates him, isn't trying to get the facts about the investigation exactly what Krakauer is doing?

About the investigation or about what was involved in the later stages of UM's decision?

Many of the docs in the initial investigation by the dean were made public in a federal court case long ago. The facts of what occurred that night and thereafter are in the transcripts of an almost 3 week trial. Most people believe Krakauer has already gotten ahold of a confidential almost 30 page report done by university system counsel, i.e. the one that apparently outlined all of the mistakes by the dean and UM and which resulted in UM deciding to allow Mr. Doe to continue in school with his scholarship and then resulted in the $245,000 payment to Mr. Doe. Paoli's earlier filing indicated that he believes Krakauer obtained some of the file illegally, and now is just trying to get the court to bless that it is okay for him to have it. Why has Krakauer and his lawyer resisted saying/showing what he already has, and resisted allowing the other side to depose him?

Yes. He knows what he's getting, and he's actually getting less than he already has.

 

[BWahlberg]

Back for more cash, pretty simple.

 

[griz71]

Back for more cash, pretty simple.

+1

 

[MissoulaMarinerFan]

Why doesn't Krakhauer dig into why the President of the University and his cronies gave a Saudi student who had been involved in at least a couple sexual misconduct items a heads up that the University and the authorities were going to question him. Thereby tipping him off and letting him leave the country to go back home for "personal reasons?"