Krakauer getting defensive?

[PlayerRep]

I’ll take a talented journalist who has survived horrible conditions on Mt. Everest and soloed some incredible climbs in some of the wildest places on the planet over bloated football fans and pompous lawyers. If I were an egriz poster debating about whether to attend the signing, I would just stay away (to save embarrassment).

You should read up on your "talented journalist". Every "nonfiction" book he's written is chock full of made up bullshit. And he's constantly having to defend his work because he takes such liberties with the truth so as to make the ACTUAL truth unrecognizeable.

Then again, you're an EWU fan, so it's probably a moot point since you probably can't read anyway. :roll:

Krakauer is the Brian Williams of "non" fiction writing.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I’ll take a talented journalist who has survived horrible conditions on Mt. Everest and soloed some incredible climbs in some of the wildest places on the planet over bloated football fans and pompous lawyers. If I were an egriz poster debating about whether to attend the signing, I would just stay away (to save embarrassment).

You should read up on your "talented journalist". Every "nonfiction" book he's written is chock full of made up bullshit. And he's constantly having to defend his work because he takes such liberties with the truth so as to make the ACTUAL truth unrecognizeable.

Then again, you're an EWU fan, so it's probably a moot point since you probably can't read anyway. :roll:

Krakauer is the Brian Williams of "non" fiction writing.

:lol: :clap: :thumb:

 

[GoldenEagle]

I understand. You are loyal sentinels of The University of Montana football team, nothing less, nothing more.

I have studied all accounts of the Everest tragedy and understand that the testimony of ALL climbers during that time are potentially inaccurate. I am not going to attack a guide who is dead. The leaders of both expeditions died in the death zone, likely attempting to save clients. The other guide you mentioned was already at lower elevation.

 

[PlayerRep]

I understand. You are loyal sentinels of The University of Montana football team, nothing less, nothing more.

I have studied all accounts of the Everest tragedy and understand that the testimony of ALL climbers during that time are potentially inaccurate. I am not going to attack a guide who is dead. The leaders of both expeditions died in the death zone, likely attempting to save clients. The other guide you mentioned was already at lower elevation.

Boukreev, the Russian and arguably the best climber in the world at the time, came down faster and prepared himself for rescues near the first camp. He made multiple trips up to save people, and brought down several (3 I believe). Some credit him with making a terrific decision to rescue people where he did. No client in his group died. He was a huge hero. Krakauer, who admits that his presence probably caused his leader to continue climbing up after the pre-decided time to turn around, then had the gall to criticize Boukreev. And, again, Krakauer was sleeping in his tent when Boukreev was saving people.

 

[EverettGriz]

I understand. You are loyal sentinels of The University of Montana football team, nothing less, nothing more.

I have studied all accounts of the Everest tragedy and understand that the testimony of ALL climbers during that time are potentially inaccurate. I am not going to attack a guide who is dead. The leaders of both expeditions died in the death zone, likely attempting to save clients. The other guide you mentioned was already at lower elevation.

Krakauer's one of my favorite authors. But if you don't believe all of his books have been criticized for poor research, incomplete observations and just pure, flat out mistakes, you obviously haven't been paying attention. Perhaps you've been eating those poisonous berries.....

 

[Catsrback76]

I’ll take a talented journalist who has survived horrible conditions on Mt. Everest and soloed some incredible climbs in some of the wildest places on the planet over bloated football fans and pompous lawyers. If I were an egriz poster debating about whether to attend the signing, I would just stay away (to save embarrassment).

You should read up on your "talented journalist". Every "nonfiction" book he's written is chock full of made up bullshit. And he's constantly having to defend his work because he takes such liberties with the truth so as to make the ACTUAL truth unrecognizeable.

Then again, you're an EWU fan, so it's probably a moot point since you probably can't read anyway. :roll:

Krakauer is the Brian Williams of "non" fiction writing.

:lol: :clap: :thumb:

Oh no, we've got a mutual admiration society going here! :roll:

BTW: Krakauer is an excellent writer and has done top level work his whole life... you should be confident that he will/did continue the work he is known for with his current book!

PR you clearly don't know the first thing about good investigative writing or authorship!

 

[CDAGRIZ]

You should read up on your "talented journalist". Every "nonfiction" book he's written is chock full of made up bullshit. And he's constantly having to defend his work because he takes such liberties with the truth so as to make the ACTUAL truth unrecognizeable.

Then again, you're an EWU fan, so it's probably a moot point since you probably can't read anyway. :roll:

Krakauer is the Brian Williams of "non" fiction writing.

:lol: :clap: :thumb:

Oh no, we've got a mutual admiration society going here! :roll:

BTW: Krakauer is an excellent writer and has done top level work his whole life... you should be confident that he will/did continue the work he is known for with his current book!

PR you clearly don't know the first thing about good investigative writing or authorship!

I can't speak for PR, but I think the maybe the first key to good investigative writing might be investigation. Then again, some might think it's the writing.

 

[AZGrizFan]

You should read up on your "talented journalist". Every "nonfiction" book he's written is chock full of made up bullshit. And he's constantly having to defend his work because he takes such liberties with the truth so as to make the ACTUAL truth unrecognizeable.

Then again, you're an EWU fan, so it's probably a moot point since you probably can't read anyway. :roll:

Krakauer is the Brian Williams of "non" fiction writing.

:lol: :clap: :thumb:

Oh no, we've got a mutual admiration society going here! :roll:

BTW: Krakauer is an excellent writer and has done top level work his whole life... you should be confident that he will/did continue the work he is known for with his current book!

PR you clearly don't know the first thing about good investigative writing or authorship!

Every--and I mean EVERY--book Crackwhore has written has, upon publication, almost IMMEDIATELY come under scrutiny because Crackwhore is well known for playing fast and loose with "facts". In his parallel universe, he twists things to meet his preconceived notion of how things SHOULD have played out, or how he wishes they HAD played out....it happened after publication of Into the Wild, of Under the Banner of Heaven, of Into Thin Air and of The Odyssey of Pat Tillman. Immediately upon publication the central characters of each of the books have taken immediate steps to distance themselves from Crackwhore's work.

He may be a good writer but that doesn't make him a good nonfiction writer--yet that's what he purports to be. In fact, he's anything BUT a non-fiction writer. He takes a kernel of truth and twists it into a fabrication, a fantasy of what he WISHED would have happened. Really, he's a joke.

 

[poorgriz]

I understand. You are loyal sentinels of The University of Montana football team, nothing less, nothing more.

I have studied all accounts of the Everest tragedy and understand that the testimony of ALL climbers during that time are potentially inaccurate. I am not going to attack a guide who is dead. The leaders of both expeditions died in the death zone, likely attempting to save clients. The other guide you mentioned was already at lower elevation.

Boukreev, the Russian and arguably the best climber in the world at the time, came down faster and prepared himself for rescues near the first camp. He made multiple trips up to save people, and brought down several (3 I believe). Some credit him with making a terrific decision to rescue people where he did. No client in his group died. He was a huge hero. Krakauer, who admits that his presence probably caused his leader to continue climbing up after the pre-decided time to turn around, then had the gall to criticize Boukreev. And, again, Krakauer was sleeping in his tent when Boukreev was saving people.

I'm pretty dang sure if there was one word changed in his book title, "Bozeman" instead of "Missoula".......... you guys wouldn't be slamming this author so hard here on egriz. In fact I'm 100% positive of that fact. At any rate, as you were.

 

[getgrizzy]

I understand. You are loyal sentinels of The University of Montana football team, nothing less, nothing more.

I have studied all accounts of the Everest tragedy and understand that the testimony of ALL climbers during that time are potentially inaccurate. I am not going to attack a guide who is dead. The leaders of both expeditions died in the death zone, likely attempting to save clients. The other guide you mentioned was already at lower elevation.

Boukreev, the Russian and arguably the best climber in the world at the time, came down faster and prepared himself for rescues near the first camp. He made multiple trips up to save people, and brought down several (3 I believe). Some credit him with making a terrific decision to rescue people where he did. No client in his group died. He was a huge hero. Krakauer, who admits that his presence probably caused his leader to continue climbing up after the pre-decided time to turn around, then had the gall to criticize Boukreev. And, again, Krakauer was sleeping in his tent when Boukreev was saving people.

I'm pretty dang sure if there was one word changed in his book title, "Bozeman" instead of "Missoula".......... you guys wouldn't be slamming this author so hard here on egriz. In fact I'm 100% positive of that fact. At any rate, as you were.

Boukreev climbed without supplemental oxygen despite being a guide. Had he been using supplemental oxygen he wouldn't have needed to waste time by going back to camp. He put the people he saved in peril and was part of the cause of the deaths of others by trying to achieve a personal goal (climb Everest without supplemental oxygen) while on the job. It was reckless. Krakauer wasn't the only one on the expedition that thought so. Krakauer states that he doesn't think Boukreev caused the tragedy. Many of the Sherpas did blame for many of the deaths.

Playarape once again with a win at all cost spin.

 

[UMGriz75]

I'm pretty dang sure if there was one word changed in his book title, "Bozeman" instead of "Missoula".......... you guys wouldn't be slamming this author so hard here on egriz. In fact I'm 100% positive of that fact.

It would have been a welcome concession to reality. :twisted:

 

[statler & waldorf]

Look around, poorgriz, you might find the Krak sniffing around Gallatin County to 'research' the second of his' non-fiction' trilogy series. Perhaps the title will be' Bozeman: Rape and Cover-up at Montana's Utter University.'

 

[UMGriz75]

Craig Medred wrote in the Anchorage Daily News in 2007,

“Into the Wild” is a misrepresentation, a sham, a fraud. There, I’ve finally said what somebody has needed to say for a long time …. Krakauer took a poor misfortunate prone to paranoia, someone who left a note talking about his desire to kill the “false being within,” someone who managed to starve to death in a deserted bus not far off the George Parks Highway, and made the guy into a celebrity. Why the author did that should be obvious. He wanted to write a story that would sell.

 

[info]

I understand. You are loyal sentinels of The University of Montana football team, nothing less, nothing more.

I have studied all accounts of the Everest tragedy and understand that the testimony of ALL climbers during that time are potentially inaccurate. I am not going to attack a guide who is dead. The leaders of both expeditions died in the death zone, likely attempting to save clients. The other guide you mentioned was already at lower elevation.

Boukreev, the Russian and arguably the best climber in the world at the time, came down faster and prepared himself for rescues near the first camp. He made multiple trips up to save people, and brought down several (3 I believe). Some credit him with making a terrific decision to rescue people where he did. No client in his group died. He was a huge hero. Krakauer, who admits that his presence probably caused his leader to continue climbing up after the pre-decided time to turn around, then had the gall to criticize Boukreev. And, again, Krakauer was sleeping in his tent when Boukreev was saving people.

I'm pretty dang sure if there was one word changed in his book title, "Bozeman" instead of "Missoula".......... you guys wouldn't be slamming this author so hard here on egriz. In fact I'm 100% positive of that fact. At any rate, as you were.

Just like if it said "Bozeman" instead of Missoula, everyone on scat nation would be slamming the author over on kitty nation instead of saying the book deserves a Pulitzer prize . In fact I'm 100% positive of that fact. At any rate, as you were. :thumb:

 

[getgrizzy]

Craig Medred wrote in the Anchorage Daily News in 2007,

“Into the Wild” is a misrepresentation, a sham, a fraud. There, I’ve finally said what somebody has needed to say for a long time …. Krakauer took a poor misfortunate prone to paranoia, someone who left a note talking about his desire to kill the “false being within,” someone who managed to starve to death in a deserted bus not far off the George Parks Highway, and made the guy into a celebrity. Why the author did that should be obvious. He wanted to write a story that would sell.

Craig Medred is a sham.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/145478759/Forget-Chris-McCandless-Has-Craig-Medred-Gone-Into-the-Wild#scribd" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[AZGrizFan]

Craig Medred wrote in the Anchorage Daily News in 2007,

“Into the Wild” is a misrepresentation, a sham, a fraud. There, I’ve finally said what somebody has needed to say for a long time …. Krakauer took a poor misfortunate prone to paranoia, someone who left a note talking about his desire to kill the “false being within,” someone who managed to starve to death in a deserted bus not far off the George Parks Highway, and made the guy into a celebrity. Why the author did that should be obvious. He wanted to write a story that would sell.

Craig Medred is a sham.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/145478759/Forget-Chris-McCandless-Has-Craig-Medred-Gone-Into-the-Wild#scribd" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A sham who is 100% spot on in his assessment of both McCandless AND Crackwhore.

 

[getgrizzy]

Craig Medred wrote in the Anchorage Daily News in 2007,

“Into the Wild” is a misrepresentation, a sham, a fraud. There, I’ve finally said what somebody has needed to say for a long time …. Krakauer took a poor misfortunate prone to paranoia, someone who left a note talking about his desire to kill the “false being within,” someone who managed to starve to death in a deserted bus not far off the George Parks Highway, and made the guy into a celebrity. Why the author did that should be obvious. He wanted to write a story that would sell.

Craig Medred is a sham.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/145478759/Forget-Chris-McCandless-Has-Craig-Medred-Gone-Into-the-Wild#scribd" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A sham who is 100% spot on in his assessment of both McCandless AND Crackwhore.

He's a sham and you know he's a sham. He's jealous and pouty that fame didn't come his way despite how smart he thinks he is.

 

[garizzalies]

The same can be said about you, Gwen, except change the "he's" to "she's"

 

[PlayerRep]

I understand. You are loyal sentinels of The University of Montana football team, nothing less, nothing more.

I have studied all accounts of the Everest tragedy and understand that the testimony of ALL climbers during that time are potentially inaccurate. I am not going to attack a guide who is dead. The leaders of both expeditions died in the death zone, likely attempting to save clients. The other guide you mentioned was already at lower elevation.

Boukreev, the Russian and arguably the best climber in the world at the time, came down faster and prepared himself for rescues near the first camp. He made multiple trips up to save people, and brought down several (3 I believe). Some credit him with making a terrific decision to rescue people where he did. No client in his group died. He was a huge hero. Krakauer, who admits that his presence probably caused his leader to continue climbing up after the pre-decided time to turn around, then had the gall to criticize Boukreev. And, again, Krakauer was sleeping in his tent when Boukreev was saving people.

I'm pretty dang sure if there was one word changed in his book title, "Bozeman" instead of "Missoula".......... you guys wouldn't be slamming this author so hard here on egriz. In fact I'm 100% positive of that fact. At any rate, as you were.

Boukreev climbed without supplemental oxygen despite being a guide. Had he been using supplemental oxygen he wouldn't have needed to waste time by going back to camp. He put the people he saved in peril and was part of the cause of the deaths of others by trying to achieve a personal goal (climb Everest without supplemental oxygen) while on the job. It was reckless. Krakauer wasn't the only one on the expedition that thought so. Krakauer states that he doesn't think Boukreev caused the tragedy. Many of the Sherpas did blame for many of the deaths.

Playarape once again with a win at all cost spin.

Krakauer has admitted that his being on the trip caused their leader to lead the group higher to late in the day, and thus cause loss of life. 4 people died in Krakauer's group.

The only person to die in Boukreev's group was the leader, Scott Fisher. Bourkreev helped a number of people down and saved multiple people. I read Boukreev's book right not too long after I read Into Thin Air.

Once again, I've done my homework and you naysayers haven't.

 

[getgrizzy]

The same can be said about you, Gwen, except change the "he's" to "she's"

I don't recall Gwen stating she thinks someone is bipolar or schizophrenic. But if she did then you might be right, but it doesn't change what I said about Medred.