Krakauer getting defensive?

[getgrizzy]

Boukreev, the Russian and arguably the best climber in the world at the time, came down faster and prepared himself for rescues near the first camp. He made multiple trips up to save people, and brought down several (3 I believe). Some credit him with making a terrific decision to rescue people where he did. No client in his group died. He was a huge hero. Krakauer, who admits that his presence probably caused his leader to continue climbing up after the pre-decided time to turn around, then had the gall to criticize Boukreev. And, again, Krakauer was sleeping in his tent when Boukreev was saving people.

I'm pretty dang sure if there was one word changed in his book title, "Bozeman" instead of "Missoula".......... you guys wouldn't be slamming this author so hard here on egriz. In fact I'm 100% positive of that fact. At any rate, as you were.

Boukreev climbed without supplemental oxygen despite being a guide. Had he been using supplemental oxygen he wouldn't have needed to waste time by going back to camp. He put the people he saved in peril and was part of the cause of the deaths of others by trying to achieve a personal goal (climb Everest without supplemental oxygen) while on the job. It was reckless. Krakauer wasn't the only one on the expedition that thought so. Krakauer states that he doesn't think Boukreev caused the tragedy. Many of the Sherpas did blame for many of the deaths.

Playarape once again with a win at all cost spin.

Krakauer has admitted that his being on the trip caused their leader to lead the group higher to late in the day, and thus cause loss of life. 4 people died in Krakauer's group.

The only person to die in Boukreev's group was the leader, Scott Fisher. Bourkreev helped a number of people down and saved multiple people. I read Boukreev's book right not too long after I read Into Thin Air.

Once again, I've done my homework and you naysayers haven't.

Boukreev never wrote a book. He co-wrote one. Sort of. Yes, a journalist being on a trip where two competing guides are racing to a summit can cause things to go bad. Krakauer has always acknowledged his role and made apologies for it. Boukreev has been doubted by Reinhold Messner, David Breashears and numerous lofty members of the climbing community. Boukreev got himself to safety first, then did what he could to save others while keeping himself safe. He started a fire, then helped put it out. Some hero.

 

[PlayerRep]

You should read up on your "talented journalist". Every "nonfiction" book he's written is chock full of made up bullshit. And he's constantly having to defend his work because he takes such liberties with the truth so as to make the ACTUAL truth unrecognizeable.

Then again, you're an EWU fan, so it's probably a moot point since you probably can't read anyway. :roll:

Krakauer is the Brian Williams of "non" fiction writing.

:lol: :clap: :thumb:

Oh no, we've got a mutual admiration society going here! :roll:

BTW: Krakauer is an excellent writer and has done top level work his whole life... you should be confident that he will/did continue the work he is known for with his current book!

PR you clearly don't know the first thing about good investigative writing or authorship!

I know more about the JJ and "gang rape" matters and proceedings than Krakauer does, have talked to and communicated with more people (some directly and some indirectly) than Krakauer did, and can easily see the huge bias Krakauer has and the multiple important omissions and occasional inaccurate statements that Krakauer made. I also know more about the law, and law in Montana, than Krakauer does.

Investigative reporting is not just talking to one side, and then reporting on the things that support the one side. That's what Krakauer did.

 

[getgrizzy]

Krakauer is the Brian Williams of "non" fiction writing.

:lol: :clap: :thumb:

Oh no, we've got a mutual admiration society going here! :roll:

BTW: Krakauer is an excellent writer and has done top level work his whole life... you should be confident that he will/did continue the work he is known for with his current book!

PR you clearly don't know the first thing about good investigative writing or authorship!

I know more about the JJ and "gang rape" matters and proceedings than Krakauer does, have talked to and communicated with more people (some directly and some indirectly) than Krakauer did, and can easily see the huge bias Krakauer has and the multiple important omissions and occasional inaccurate statements that Krakauer made. I also know more about the law, and law in Montana, than Krakauer does.

Investigative reporting is not just talking to one side, and then reporting on the things that support the one side. That's what Krakauer did.

And you're embellishing yourself and whining.

 

[AZGrizFan]

The same can be said about you, Gwen, except change the "he's" to "she's"

I don't recall Gwen stating she thinks someone is bipolar or schizophrenic. But if she did then you might be right, but it doesn't change what I said about Medred.

If you think THAT'S what garizzalies was referring to in his post you're an even bigger idiot than you've been given credit for here. :lol: :roll:

 

[PlayerRep]

:lol: :clap: :thumb:

Oh no, we've got a mutual admiration society going here! :roll:

BTW: Krakauer is an excellent writer and has done top level work his whole life... you should be confident that he will/did continue the work he is known for with his current book!

PR you clearly don't know the first thing about good investigative writing or authorship!

I know more about the JJ and "gang rape" matters and proceedings than Krakauer does, have talked to and communicated with more people (some directly and some indirectly) than Krakauer did, and can easily see the huge bias Krakauer has and the multiple important omissions and occasional inaccurate statements that Krakauer made. I also know more about the law, and law in Montana, than Krakauer does.

Investigative reporting is not just talking to one side, and then reporting on the things that support the one side. That's what Krakauer did.

And you're embellishing yourself and whining.

Just stating the facts. And don't do the whining thing.

 

[UMGriz75]

Whenever Kraukauer writes, people "who were there" nearly always seem to disagree with him, and people in Bozeman tend to support his agenda, or any other agenda having something to do with UM.

Back then, commercial outfits were just budding amid independent climbers on the peak, such as legendary Russian mountaineer Anatoli Boukreev. One of the few heroes during the horrifying night, unable to get much help from others in place, Anatoli marched out of high camp again and again, in an effort to save stranded people. Out of inexperience perhaps, Krakauer described Boukreev in an unflattering way and had to apologize. But Anatoli was not the only one.

http://www.explorersweb.com/everest_k2/news.php?id=20095" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In the meantime, MSU was recently accused of bungling a fraternity rape investigation by the Bozeman Police Force. Let Rolling Stone get ahold of that one! Wait a minute! Didn't Denarius McGhee join an MSU fraternity?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/27/alert-faulted-in-montana-state-rape-investigation/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Apparently the only rape litigation against a college or university in Montana, which happens to be against Montana State University, continues, for knowingly endangering students, for covering up a known sexual predator, and for failing to act when they knew of the problem, not just endangering female MSU students, but high school students as well, in MSU classrooms, on official trips, and in motel rooms. Oh, and he was a convicted sex offender when MSU hired him!

You know, MSU intentionally brought him to campus, paid him, gave him an office and said "here's the students, they're all yours!"

http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/news/montana_state_university/former-student-claims-she-was-raped-by-music-professor-sues/article_d94aaa9a-376b-11e3-b0fa-001a4bcf887a.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[statler & waldorf]

Krakauer has admitted that his being on the trip caused their leader to lead the group higher to late in the day, and thus cause loss of life. 4 people died in Krakauer's group.

This I did not know. Blood on his hands. Four notches on his word processor. Lower than a snakes belly.

I don't recall Gwen stating she thinks someone is bipolar or schizophrenic.

Just between the two of us, refer to the DSM V Manual for proper reference to mental health issues, then edit your post. You're welcome. :thumb:

 

[Grisly Fan]

The same can be said about you, Gwen, except change the "he's" to "she's"

I don't recall Gwen stating she thinks someone is bipolar or schizophrenic. But if she did then you might be right, but it doesn't change what I said about Medred.

If you think THAT'S what garizzalies was referring to in his post you're an even bigger idiot than you've been given credit for here. :lol: :roll:

An interesting poll might be how many people think getgrizzy is Gwen Florio? I'd vote yes.

 

[wbtfg]

Sounds like over 600 in attendance at tonight's forum. Turning away people at the door

 

[signedbewildered]

Sounds like over 600 in attendance at tonight's forum. Turning away people at the door

I swore I thought I saw a link somewhere to a live video feed but I cant find it now. Help anyone? Please.

 

[snap]

Sounds like over 600 in attendance at tonight's forum. Turning away people at the door

I swore I thought I saw a link somewhere to a live video feed but I cant find it now. Help anyone? Please.

http://www.mcat.org/#!local-live/cchx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[signedbewildered]

Sounds like over 600 in attendance at tonight's forum. Turning away people at the door

I swore I thought I saw a link somewhere to a live video feed but I cant find it now. Help anyone? Please.

http://www.mcat.org/#!local-live/cchx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thank you kindly and it works too! God I hope we make it through this without someone flipping their lid (unless it's Krakauer) I'm guessing he is hoping for some intense drama for publicity.

Don't get me wrong. I'd be the first to flip my lid....which is exactly why I'm not there.

 

[signedbewildered]

Well I learned the sign for "clapping." It's pretty much clapping but your hands don't touch.

 

[EverettGriz]

Sounds like over 600 in attendance at tonight's forum. Turning away people at the door

I swore I thought I saw a link somewhere to a live video feed but I cant find it now. Help anyone? Please.

http://www.mcat.org/#!local-live/cchx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thank you kindly and it works too! God I hope we make it through this without someone flipping their lid (unless it's Krakauer) I'm guessing he is hoping for some intense drama for publicity.

Don't get me wrong. I'd be the first to flip my lid....which is exactly why I'm not there.

:lol:

 

[biga75]

Sounds like over 600 in attendance at tonight's forum. Turning away people at the door

I swore I thought I saw a link somewhere to a live video feed but I cant find it now. Help anyone? Please.

Here's the listen live link from MT public radio:

http://mtpr.org/post/listen-krakauer-community-discussion-live-here" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[EverettGriz]

Wow. He's a condescending dick.

 

[signedbewildered]

Wow. He's a condescending dick.

I second that (does the sign for clapping)

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Wow. He's a condescending dick.

I think he posts on egriz under the user name "NorthwestFresh"

 

[signedbewildered]

He's attempting to crucify Johnson.

 

[biga75]

The live stream crashed...