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Knight

Knight would have had a big night too, if he hadn't gotten hurt. Too bad. It was nice to see Ostmo kick ass. The Griz have bunch of good rb's.
 
Bok_Choi said:
Kobezoey said:
Knight’s size is just his natural size. He was about 195lbs when he arrived and now he is closer to 225lbs. Natural growth over the past 3 years. He is 6’1”. . .a big kid but not fat. He is a gym rat and very strong, and extremely flexible, and the fastest RB on the team. His skill level and game is every bit as good as what it was. He has just been asked to run up the middle constantly this year. His carries have been very limited in most games, as well. Stop seeing the big kid he is and thinking he is reinventing himself. He is just doing all he can to come back from quite a serious injury. He has done a remarkable job of coming back and contributing.
He is still coming back, in fact. Really not sure why you would have anything derogatory to say about a kid that is making a major return to the field. Guys like Marcus are what it is all about. Yes, he looks different with his natural growth as a young man. He is bigger, faster and stronger. Expect to continue to see great things from him. He is a rare talent that does not come along very often.

My point is, and will continue to be that if you're an o-lineman, adding 25-30 lbs over a couple of years is the norm., until you have the weight/strenght to do what's expected - most of them aren't that big naturally in HS. Adding that kind of weight as a running back, in a similar time frame, is a huge difference and hardly natural. He was all that and a bag of chips before, electric - a kid who could get a tough yard by lowering his shoulder and the next play, he's freeze the guy and run by him. Ostmo, Janacaro and Childs have the battering ram running back thing covered. That's the style they normally run with. None of them could do what Knight did, and that's no slam on them - they're doing what they do very well. I get he's still 'coming back." And we can disagree on the fastest back - I heard Hauck say it was Ostmo on the coaches show last year and that was prior to Gilman arriving.


Fair enough and good explanation. If you have met Knight’s family and knew Marcus’ story, you would be a little more clear on the fact that he is natural. Some people have good genetics. I believe Knight is still that guy who can do all you described. He has in flashes this year. He has simply not been utilized that way yet this year. Not sure why. And for the fastest back thing, I saw the same Hauck comment. He was incorrect. Marcus consistently clocks as the fastest RB on the team whenever they do those things in training. Not worth arguing that one, but he is easily the fastest. Funny part of this is that Knight has that electric ability yet can do the battering ram thing well too. Again, you don’t see that very often. He was doing it at a lighter weight, also. Just be glad he continues to blossom. Kind of a late bloomer physically. We have an unusual talent at Montana that we can root for.
 
Kobezoey said:
Bok_Choi said:
My point is, and will continue to be that if you're an o-lineman, adding 25-30 lbs over a couple of years is the norm., until you have the weight/strenght to do what's expected - most of them aren't that big naturally in HS. Adding that kind of weight as a running back, in a similar time frame, is a huge difference and hardly natural. He was all that and a bag of chips before, electric - a kid who could get a tough yard by lowering his shoulder and the next play, he's freeze the guy and run by him. Ostmo, Janacaro and Childs have the battering ram running back thing covered. That's the style they normally run with. None of them could do what Knight did, and that's no slam on them - they're doing what they do very well. I get he's still 'coming back." And we can disagree on the fastest back - I heard Hauck say it was Ostmo on the coaches show last year and that was prior to Gilman arriving.


Fair enough and good explanation. If you have met Knight’s family and knew Marcus’ story, you would be a little more clear on the fact that he is natural. Some people have good genetics. I believe Knight is still that guy who can do all you described. He has in flashes this year. He has simply not been utilized that way yet this year. Not sure why. And for the fastest back thing, I saw the same Hauck comment. He was incorrect. Marcus consistently clocks as the fastest RB on the team whenever they do those things in training. Not worth arguing that one, but he is easily the fastest. Funny part of this is that Knight has that electric ability yet can do the battering ram thing well too. Again, you don’t see that very often. He was doing it at a lighter weight, also. Just be glad he continues to blossom. Kind of a late bloomer physically. We have an unusual talent at Montana that we can root for.

I know many on here think that he is not quite the same, but I will agree he just isn't the same quite yet after the injury. There is a mental game, and I think he is finally getting over some of that. I think the rest of the season, as long as he is healthy, he will be a big contributor to the offense. He is still my favorite back and I think is the best one overall.
 
AZDoc said:
Kobezoey said:
Fair enough and good explanation. If you have met Knight’s family and knew Marcus’ story, you would be a little more clear on the fact that he is natural. Some people have good genetics. I believe Knight is still that guy who can do all you described. He has in flashes this year. He has simply not been utilized that way yet this year. Not sure why. And for the fastest back thing, I saw the same Hauck comment. He was incorrect. Marcus consistently clocks as the fastest RB on the team whenever they do those things in training. Not worth arguing that one, but he is easily the fastest. Funny part of this is that Knight has that electric ability yet can do the battering ram thing well too. Again, you don’t see that very often. He was doing it at a lighter weight, also. Just be glad he continues to blossom. Kind of a late bloomer physically. We have an unusual talent at Montana that we can root for.

I know many on here think that he is not quite the same, but I will agree he just isn't the same quite yet after the injury. There is a mental game, and I think he is finally getting over some of that. I think the rest of the season, as long as he is healthy, he will be a big contributor to the offense. He is still my favorite back and I think is the best one overall.

I agree, except that I also like Ostmo. He was really come on this year and as the season as gone on. I like the other backs too.
 
mthoopsfan said:
AZDoc said:
I know many on here think that he is not quite the same, but I will agree he just isn't the same quite yet after the injury. There is a mental game, and I think he is finally getting over some of that. I think the rest of the season, as long as he is healthy, he will be a big contributor to the offense. He is still my favorite back and I think is the best one overall.

I agree, except that I also like Ostmo. He was really come on this year and as the season as gone on. I like the other backs too.

:lol: I laugh because as I think about it...yeah, this is true. Not one is bad, and this year THAT position I'm good with whomever is in there. Ostmo has absolutely come on. He has always been a hard runner but I think he is a bit shiftier this year. I still love Knight. He is my top 3 favorite players.
 
AZDoc said:
mthoopsfan said:
I agree, except that I also like Ostmo. He was really come on this year and as the season as gone on. I like the other backs too.

:lol: I laugh because as I think about it...yeah, this is true. Not one is bad, and this year THAT position I'm good with whomever is in there. Ostmo has absolutely come on. He has always been a hard runner but I think he is a bit shiftier this year. I still love Knight. He is my top 3 favorite players.

After what that guy went through last year it’s especially awesome to see him excelling this year.
 
After what that guy went through last year it’s especially awesome to see him excelling this year.
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Agreed! ACL and meniscus surgery is no joke. Same thing Saquon Barkley went through. Marcus Knight has overcome a lot and I could not be happier for him. He came a long way and is back to form, and continuing to add to his game. The future is very bright for him. Also, very excited for the TE, Rensvold. What an overcomer he is, as well.
 
Kobezoey said:
Agreed! ACL and meniscus surgery is no joke. Same thing Saquon Barkley went through. Marcus Knight has overcome a lot and I could not be happier for him. He came a long way and is back to form, and continuing to add to his game. The future is very bright for him. Also, very excited for the TE, Rensvold. What an overcomer he is, as well.

Well I was speaking of Ostmo’s difficulties staying healthy too, but Knight’s injuries obviously were much more severe and time consuming to recover from. Could have REALLY used Ostmo last year too…
 
I think Knight will continue to get better as time goes in the recovery process too. Next year I would think he will be as healed as he every will be and if it was a very successful surgery and rehab he will be near as he ever will be to 100% physically and hopefully the mental aspect will also be gone. I don't blame him for not mentally being able to fully trust it yet enough to not have even a little apprehension in the back of his mind. Bodies like the brain to take care of them no matter how much the person want's to go fully. I do question the speed rankings people say between the backs, watching it looks like he is 3rd fastest and I would expect X to be the fastest but haven't had a lot of good looks at him in the open field to judge, Ostmo is pretty fast for his size looks like to me. Also can't wait to see Gillman next year get his reps in, he seemed like a steal coming from the state of Minnesota he was in the recruiting area of a lot of schools.
 
Knight is our best back period. Wouldn't say he's the fastest though... Harris appears to be the fastest back imo
 
indiancoyote said:
He's the third best back period. Slow to hole and afraid of contact. Mayber next year he'll be over his fear.

He's not slow to the hole.... he's patient and looks for the hole, like every good back does and then he hits it. He's coming back from an injury. Broke Chase Reynolds record for tds as a freshman... you're smoking meth if you think he's the 3rd best. He is THEE best all around back. He can do it all. A healthy knight is better than the rest put together.
 
Also, there is no fear... where tf did u get that from. Also did you not see the game where he actually got more than 6 carries? Went for over a 100 yds... crazy fuck
 
I've watched him every game. Against Weber he had several opportunities for big gaines but was too slow to the hole or made horrible decisions because he was afraid of contact. Ostmo would have exploded through those holes. Knight is slow, overweight and afraid of contact. Hopefully next year he's back to where he was as a freshmen.
 
indiancoyote said:
I've watched him every game. Against Weber he had several opportunities for big gaines but was too slow to the hole or made horrible decisions because he was afraid of contact. Ostmo would have exploded through those holes. Knight is slow, overweight and afraid of contact. Hopefully next year he's back to where he was as a freshmen.

Oh, BS. Knight is not slow or overweight. He's hitting holes very well. He has never been afraid of contact and never will be. He's getting better every game. Please stop with your total nonsense.
 
The four primary backs getting carries average 5.9, 5.7. 5.3 and 4.0 yards per carry.

I’ll let y’all figure out which one of those is Knight.
 
AZGrizFan said:
The four primary backs getting carries average 5.9, 5.7. 5.3 and 4.0 yards per carry.

I’ll let y’all figure out which one of those is Knight.


I guess everyone deserves their opinion. Since this is a post about Knight, I do feel staying positive is a good idea.
But, at the end of the day, if I am building a team and only get one running back, I am taking Knight every time. He gives me the best chance of success in all aspects of the position and the game.
 
AZGrizFan said:
The four primary backs getting carries average 5.9, 5.7. 5.3 and 4.0 yards per carry.

I’ll let y’all figure out which one of those is Knight.

Ypc really doesn't mean a whole lot especially with the difference in the amount of carries. Stats mean jack shit when theyre cherry picked.
 
Griz Addict said:
AZGrizFan said:
The four primary backs getting carries average 5.9, 5.7. 5.3 and 4.0 yards per carry.

I’ll let y’all figure out which one of those is Knight.

Ypc really doesn't mean a whole lot especially with the difference in the amount of carries. Stats mean jack shit when theyre cherry picked.

Lol. Exactly what stat would you point to this year in support of Knight? Pick any ONE that supports your opinion.

I love the kid, and I think he’ll be great again…but he’s not himself right now. THAT much is apparent. And that’s ok…he’s still relatively early in his recovery.
 
For Knight and Ostmo, I would look at how they are running in games, and not look at stats. Both are running very well.
 
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