keys to beating weber

[EverettGriz]

WSU favored by 5.8

Here's how Cherry & Jamar have fared so far in Regular Season games in Ogden
Cherry 0-3
Jamar 0-2

'11-'12  Sat, Jan 14  Montana * Ogden, UT 80 - 64 (W)
'10-'11   Thur, Feb 03  Montana * Ogden, UT 68 - 52 (W)
'09-'10   Sat, Jan 02  Montana * Ogden, UT 64 - 56 (W)

And yet somehow the Griz have found a way to win 7 of the last 9 meetings.

I'd say webs should be favored. But 6 points (and wtf is the deal w the .8? Never seen that before)?? There's some money to be made here!!

 

[Grizbacker1]

Zone defense

I have to vehemently disagree on playing zone, except in rare spurts to change things up. those guys are very dangerous on the perimeter. we shut them down in Missoula because we have guys who can defend one on one and are athletic enough to be able to help and recover.

 

[WSUnPurple]

WSU favored by 5.8

Here's how Cherry & Jamar have fared so far in Regular Season games in Ogden
Cherry 0-3
Jamar 0-2

'11-'12 Sat, Jan 14 Montana * Ogden, UT 80 - 64 (W)
'10-'11 Thur, Feb 03 Montana * Ogden, UT 68 - 52 (W)
'09-'10 Sat, Jan 02 Montana * Ogden, UT 64 - 56 (W)

And yet somehow the Griz have found a way to win 7 of the last 9 meetings.

I'd say webs should be favored. But 6 points (and wtf is the deal w the .8? Never seen that before)?? There's some money to be made here!!

Wayne Tinkler has NEVER won a regular season game @ WSU. Weber rolls. I'm looking forward to this one.

 

[SWeberCat02]

WSU favored by 5.8

Here's how Cherry & Jamar have fared so far in Regular Season games in Ogden
Cherry 0-3
Jamar 0-2

'11-'12 Sat, Jan 14 Montana * Ogden, UT 80 - 64 (W)
'10-'11 Thur, Feb 03 Montana * Ogden, UT 68 - 52 (W)
'09-'10 Sat, Jan 02 Montana * Ogden, UT 64 - 56 (W)

And yet somehow the Griz have found a way to win 7 of the last 9 meetings.

I'd say webs should be favored. But 6 points (and wtf is the deal w the .8? Never seen that before)?? There's some money to be made here!!

Wayne Tinkler has NEVER won a regular season game @ WSU. Weber rolls. I'm looking forward to this one.

WeberSki (or whatever name you're using these days), I'm not as confident as you. While I think Weber wins this one, I certainly don't think they "roll". The Griz are too good to get beaten badly.

 

[WILDCATFAN]

WSU favored by 5.8

Here's how Cherry & Jamar have fared so far in Regular Season games in Ogden
Cherry 0-3
Jamar 0-2

'11-'12 Sat, Jan 14 Montana * Ogden, UT 80 - 64 (W)
'10-'11 Thur, Feb 03 Montana * Ogden, UT 68 - 52 (W)
'09-'10 Sat, Jan 02 Montana * Ogden, UT 64 - 56 (W)

And yet somehow the Griz have found a way to win 7 of the last 9 meetings.

I'd say webs should be favored. But 6 points (and wtf is the deal w the .8? Never seen that before)?? There's some money to be made here!!

Wayne Tinkler has NEVER won a regular season game @ WSU. Weber rolls. I'm looking forward to this one.

WeberSki (or whatever name you're using these days), I'm not as confident as you. While I think Weber wins this one, I certainly don't think they "roll". The Griz are too good to get beaten badly.

:agree:

 

[WSUnPurple]

WSU favored by 5.8

Here's how Cherry & Jamar have fared so far in Regular Season games in Ogden
Cherry 0-3
Jamar 0-2

'11-'12 Sat, Jan 14 Montana * Ogden, UT 80 - 64 (W)
'10-'11 Thur, Feb 03 Montana * Ogden, UT 68 - 52 (W)
'09-'10 Sat, Jan 02 Montana * Ogden, UT 64 - 56 (W)

And yet somehow the Griz have found a way to win 7 of the last 9 meetings.

I'd say webs should be favored. But 6 points (and wtf is the deal w the .8? Never seen that before)?? There's some money to be made here!!

Wayne Tinkler has NEVER won a regular season game @ WSU. Weber rolls. I'm looking forward to this one.

WeberSki (or whatever name you're using these days), I'm not as confident as you. While I think Weber wins this one, I certainly don't think they "roll". The Griz are too good to get beaten badly.

Just remember SWeber they were a much deeper team with Qvale, Selvig, & Steward. This Fizzly Grizzly team lacks any sort of inside presence. Weber won by 16 the last 2 years. WEBER ROLLS... I'm a little nervous though. Will Cherry (pedicure boy) says "it's on"

 

[i do love the griz]

We definitely didn't have Qvale last year when we won twice in a little over a week. But seriously, Kareem and Will and Spencer and just everyone are playing so well right now, that I don't see a blow out happening.

 

[EverettGriz]

FWIW, Purple doesn't have the greatest track record in predicting weber "roll" victories. In fact, I believe he's about Oh-fer his last 4.

And saying that Wayne has never won in Ogden may be true. And yet he still has Rahe's number.

Keep on trollin' though. Eventually you'll type something that makes sense.

 

[WSUWALDO]

Weber is deadly on both sides of the floor. The worst defensive game for the Cats this year was against MSU. Since the Montana road trip the Cats have really wratched up their defensive mentality. In Weber's last four games, the Cats have allowed @UND 51, @UNCO 64, SUU 58, and last night ISU 40. UND, SUU, and at times, UNCO have been really hot as of late, and the Cats shut them all down. In the past Montana could depend on winning if the game came down to defense, now that isn't as assured. Also, Tinkle can't get into an offensive battle with the Cats. UM can score more readily this year than they could in the past, but I think Weber is deeper and quicker than the Griz. The biggest factor I could take from the game in Missoula was Weber's inability to get to the line, but when they did get to the line they missed too many freebies. UM did a good job at both. In the loss to MSU, I was SHOCKED, that the Bobs made that many freebies. Usually, they are good at missing more than they make.

 

[gotgame75]

Weber is deadly on both sides of the floor. The worst defensive game for the Cats this year was against MSU. Since the Montana road trip the Cats have really wratched up their defensive mentality. In Weber's last four games, the Cats have allowed @UND 51, @UNCO 64, SUU 58, and last night ISU 40. UND, SUU, and at times, UNCO have been really hot as of late, and the Cats shut them all down. In the past Montana could depend on winning if the game came down to defense, now that isn't as assured. Also, Tinkle can't get into an offensive battle with the Cats. UM can score more readily this year than they could in the past, but I think Weber is deeper and quicker than the Griz. The biggest factor I could take from the game in Missoula was Weber's inability to get to the line, but when they did get to the line they missed too many freebies. UM did a good job at both. In the loss to MSU, I was SHOCKED, that the Bobs made that many freebies. Usually, they are good at missing more than they make.

There's a ton of great things to be said about Weber, but being "quicker and deeper" than us is not one of them. Our greatest strength is the depth of our backcourt, where the first 3-4 guys off the bench can all put up double figures on any given night. You most definitely still should win at your house, but it won't be because you're "quicker and deeper", it will be due to your frontcourt scoring.

 

[grizindabox]

Griz lose 3 of next 5

 

[AllWeatherFan]

I think we'll win four of the next five, including our game on Thursday night against...wait, who are we playing again?

 

[ilovethecats]

I was SHOCKED, that the Bobs made that many freebies. Usually, they are good at missing more than they make.

first, you should never be shocked by free throws. you'll give yourself a heart attack watching what is a pretty routine play in basketball. 2nd, last time i saw cats and weber were dead even in free throw percentage at about 70%.

there are many things you can say the cats are bad at. free throws not being high on the list. they are also very good at creating turnovers and they don't turn the ball over much themselves. we can score points but we're a pretty bad shooting team. all in all we lack size and defend poorly.

just offering some pro's and con's for you too look for during our next meaning and maybe i just kept you from falling out of your seat in disbelief.

 

[Mousegriz]

I am surprised to see the Griz haven't won in regular season in Ogden in so long. Pretty surprising but we know it's a great program with good home court. Will fondly recall my trip to Billings and State AA tourney a few years ago; we stopped in Bozeman just at tipoff of the Anthony Johnson highlight reel game. Took most of the game for a few "Bobcats" in Famous Dave's there to start watching it. What a great performance by Johnson and the Griz in making that comeback.

So one key to this game is hang in there. Likely lots of energy and excitement to start the game and Weber may feed off it for early lead. Griz have the mentality to grind an entire game and I fully expect game to be close. Glad to see Hutch playing physical and with some confidence. He is also a key this Thurs.

I wasn't overly impressed with Weber up here and it's hard to say they have talent or depth over Griz. They lose potential NBA rookie of year and Griz lose Selvig, Steward and Stockton. Selvig is only one that's not been "replaced" by someone comparable if not better this year (Weisner, Hendo and Coleman for Steward and DeShields/Gregory for Stockton).

Griz should attack this game like they did first half the other night....nothing to lose mentality. Pressure is really on Weber; they lose this one and we probably have conference titled close to wrapped up.

Another key to our win........their coach is way too short!!

 

[Roxstar]

After what happenend at the end of the game in Missoula, look for the refs to call fouls early and often to keep the game in control. Hopefully the refs won't be over zealous with the whistles, and will let the players play. Don't be surprised Weber gets some home cooking from the refs too. GO GRIZ :thumb:

 

[love4daGRIZ]

Weber is deadly on both sides of the floor. The worst defensive game for the Cats this year was against MSU. Since the Montana road trip the Cats have really wratched up their defensive mentality. In Weber's last four games, the Cats have allowed @UND 51, @UNCO 64, SUU 58, and last night ISU 40. UND, SUU, and at times, UNCO have been really hot as of late, and the Cats shut them all down. In the past Montana could depend on winning if the game came down to defense, now that isn't as assured. Also, Tinkle can't get into an offensive battle with the Cats. UM can score more readily this year than they could in the past, but I think Weber is deeper and quicker than the Griz. The biggest factor I could take from the game in Missoula was Weber's inability to get to the line, but when they did get to the line they missed too many freebies. UM did a good job at both. In the loss to MSU, I was SHOCKED, that the Bobs made that many freebies. Usually, they are good at missing more than they make.

While I can say that weber deffinatly has the griz's number in ogden and a great home court advantage saying that weber is deeper and quicker is just not true. The griz have one of the deepest and most skilled back courts in the west. top 5 easy. Our depth is was makes this team we has seven guys who are capable of scoring 20 any night, Jamar, will, coleman, wisener, gregory, deshields, and ward! weber is a solid team and im not sure the griz will win. But weber is not the better team. with cherry in at the begining of the season this is a 20-2 griz team with the longest win streak in the nation. The griz are better than last season and weber is worse that last season so saying that weber is the better team is not true.

 

[WSUWALDO]

Weber is deadly on both sides of the floor. The worst defensive game for the Cats this year was against MSU. Since the Montana road trip the Cats have really wratched up their defensive mentality. In Weber's last four games, the Cats have allowed @UND 51, @UNCO 64, SUU 58, and last night ISU 40. UND, SUU, and at times, UNCO have been really hot as of late, and the Cats shut them all down. In the past Montana could depend on winning if the game came down to defense, now that isn't as assured. Also, Tinkle can't get into an offensive battle with the Cats. UM can score more readily this year than they could in the past, but I think Weber is deeper and quicker than the Griz. The biggest factor I could take from the game in Missoula was Weber's inability to get to the line, but when they did get to the line they missed too many freebies. UM did a good job at both. In the loss to MSU, I was SHOCKED, that the Bobs made that many freebies. Usually, they are good at missing more than they make.

While I can say that weber deffinatly has the griz's number in ogden and a great home court advantage saying that weber is deeper and quicker is just not true. The griz have one of the deepest and most skilled back courts in the west. top 5 easy. Our depth is was makes this team we has seven guys who are capable of scoring 20 any night, Jamar, will, coleman, wisener, gregory, deshields, and ward! weber is a solid team and im not sure the griz will win. But weber is not the better team. with cherry in at the begining of the season this is a 20-2 griz team with the longest win streak in the nation. The griz are better than last season and weber is worse that last season so saying that weber is the better team is not true.

Well then, we will just have to agree to disagree. :thumb:

Not trying to be a homer, and yes, I readily admit that UM has the best backcourt in the Sky, with Cherry and Jamar leading the Griz (I believe Jamar is the leading MVP candidate), but Weber has the best frontcourt and our backups (Bolomboy, Hajek, Fulton) are as good as your starters with the exception of Ward. Hutch and Martin (I see Martin really developing) aren't that great.

Next, statistically speaking, Weber is the best defensive and offensive team in the conference. Weber has 7 guys who could score 20 or more on any given night: Bamforth, Richardson, Berry, Otis, Tresnak, Wheelright, and Bolomboy. Not to mention Fulton who hasn't played a lot this year due to injury, but he is a guy who can score 20+ at anytime and has in the past. He was the Big Sky Fresh of the year and also an honorable mention guy last year. The biggest difference in the game in Missoula was freebies made and getting to the line.

 

[wildkyle]

I don't see a blowout but I do think Weber will win. Both teams are so good this year that it will go to the wire.

 

[weberwildcat]

i dont factor in history because i know this is no automatic win for weber! griz have won 25 in a row yikes.

it is interesting though that griz haven't won in a reg season game in ogden since i think 2004. in rahe's 7 years at weber i think he has only lost 4 home reg season games.

idaho state '07,
nau '08,
montana state '09,
eastern '11 (last home reg season loss, mar 2, 2011)

rahe absolutely owns the big sky EXCEPT Montana, there fore it should be a great game! :thumb: :clap:

rahe vs big sky:
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Overall Home Record 86-12 88%
Big Sky Record 92-29 76%
Big Sky Home Record 55-6 90%
Big Sky Home Regular Season Only: 50-4 93%

Eastern Washington 11-3
Idaho State 11-3
Montana 8-8
Montana State 10-5
Northern Arizona 12-3
Northern Colorado 11-3
North Dakota 2-0
Portland State 13-3
Sacramento State 12-1
Southern Utah 2-0

rahe vs montana reg season home games:
07: W 73-67
08: W 76-67
09: W 71-55
10: W 64-56
11: W 68-52
12: W 80-64
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even after reasing all this im still throwing it all out the window....too big of a game, both teams will be super hyped, same with the fans. come on fans! show up! be loud!!!!! :thumb:

 

[Cats2605]

DeShields is a mouth breather, like Weber fan said, he'd be lucky to make Walk On at WSU.