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Just Reported In Spokane

goatcreekgriz said:
G-BEARS said:
George Ferguson said:
nzone said:
Do you have info suggesting these other players in fact hit this young man or just because they were present?

I have info that Strong wasn't originally the one who fought.

Are you implying that it was our WSU transfers that were with him? Do you know this?
You might want to check the Havre Daily News tomorrow. I will.

Haha, No, I think Amie and Colter and others who cover the Griz full time are on the job. They can have this one. I've got the Northern football debacle to deal with here at home.
 
George Ferguson said:
goatcreekgriz said:
G-BEARS said:
George Ferguson said:
I have info that Strong wasn't originally the one who fought.

Are you implying that it was our WSU transfers that were with him? Do you know this?
You might want to check the Havre Daily News tomorrow. I will.

Haha, No, I think Amie and Colter and others who cover the Griz full time are on the job. They can have this one. I've got the Northern football debacle to deal with here at home.
Actually, I read it every weekday anyway. BP football grim, too. By this time tomorrow, I expect we will know more about this sad situation.
 
First, police don't decide if there is bail or not.
The way it works is:

If someone is arrested at night or on weekends when the courts are not open the suspect appears in front of an "on call" judge. Bond is set. Once the courts are open there is a bail hearing. At that time a judge can grant ROR if it can be demonstrated that the suspect is not likely to continue to be a threat to anyone else and is not likely a flight risk.

Second, things are apparently done differently there than where I was in law enforcement. It's baffling to me that someone would be arrested, processed and given bail without being charged.

My guess is he was taken into custody, processed and arraigned at the onset and more information came to light that supports his story as time went on. Which would explain the ROR.
 
George Ferguson said:
nzone said:
George Ferguson said:
It's not hard to figure out who was there. Let's just say running back the secondary are going to be REALLY THIN against Weber.

Do you have info suggesting these other players in fact hit this young man or just because they were present?

I have info that Strong wasn't originally the one who fought.

Birds of a shitfeather flock together, George.
 
FFS!!! I am so sick of these stories. It is a broken record. They never learn. It's like the kids who say "it will never happen to me", but it just keeps happening.
 
George Ferguson said:
Haha, No, I think Amie and Colter and others who cover the Griz full time are on the job. They can have this one. I've got the Northern football debacle to deal with here at home.

So George, has Northern just basically given up?
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
George Ferguson said:
Haha, No, I think Amie and Colter and others who cover the Griz full time are on the job. They can have this one. I've got the Northern football debacle to deal with here at home.

So George, has Northern just basically given up?
The better question would be asking if Jason Semore is moonlighting as Northerns DC?




 
Man1 said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
George Ferguson said:
Haha, No, I think Amie and Colter and others who cover the Griz full time are on the job. They can have this one. I've got the Northern football debacle to deal with here at home.

So George, has Northern just basically given up?
The better question would be asking if Jason Semore is moonlighting as Northerns DC?

No matter how big of a train wreck anyone think Semore is, Northern is taking it to a different level.
 
Merkleman said:
First, police don't decide if there is bail or not.
The way it works is:

If someone is arrested at night or on weekends when the courts are not open the suspect appears in front of an "on call" judge. Bond is set. Once the courts are open there is a bail hearing. At that time a judge can grant ROR if it can be demonstrated that the suspect is not likely to continue to be a threat to anyone else and is not likely a flight risk.

Second, things are apparently done differently there than where I was in law enforcement. It's baffling to me that someone would be arrested, processed and given bail without being charged.

My guess is he was taken into custody, processed and arraigned at the onset and more information came to light that supports his story as time went on. Which would explain the ROR.
My wife is a big fan of the "live" law enforcement programs ... and I'm working on a book about a guy who was associated with it his whole career. (A private criminologist/criminalist -- back when such existed.) So I've done a lot of research on the area, although I have little first-hand knowledge. This whole sequence has me baffled too. I realize my earlier post was misleading. As you note, the "police" do not decide on ROR, but the "on call" judge. But that still seems to have resulted in nighttime ROR, followed by the (fairly) big bail when a "regular" judge reviewed the situation.

I kinda thought the retroactive imposition of the big bail resulted from the seriousness of the injuries to the guy who got the worst of it. Does that make any sense?
 
It makes me long for the days of just a simple dui arrest.

It looks like the narrative that Stitt's players, except for Strahm (and the other guys last year and the year before), are of high character and perfect, may not be quite accurate. Hopefully, little or nothing will come of this, and certainly not a felony charge. However, this felony arrest combined with I think 3 felony arrests for the house break-in a couple years ago, ranks Stitt players above any other Griz coach, including Hauck, on felony arrests per year.

I just hate it when narratives and agendas turn out not to be accurate.
 
I know these guys are young adults, and he may have been truly defending himself, so what!!!
WTF are you doing putting yourself in any kind of situation that this could happen, (WALK AWAY) They know this shit in High School. You get in trouble you don't play. Just like on the field, its not the first guy that throws a punch, its the second one that gets caught and ejected!!
Way to go champ!!!, that's helping your team.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
George Ferguson said:
Haha, No, I think Amie and Colter and others who cover the Griz full time are on the job. They can have this one. I've got the Northern football debacle to deal with here at home.

So George, has Northern just basically given up?

I will say, the one's who are still playing, no, it doesn't feel like they've given up. But, this has been a repeating trend at Northern for the last three years. Hopes are high in spring ball that they will make progress, even higher in fall camp. Then, they play reasonably well early in the season, as was the case this year when they had Rocky beat in the first game of the season. Hell, even the first time they played Tech, they had over 500 yards of total offense and scored as many points as anyone has on Tech all season long. But, slowly, things start to go south, they get blown out a couple of times, and players, who obviously weren't fully bought in to begin with, bail. By the time Northern played Tech on Saturday, they started something like eight true or red-shirt freshman on defense, because of kids up and quitting midseason as well as a couple of key injuries. Then, you go against a Tech offense where the talent disparity is so far out of proportion, and you get what happened Saturday.

So honestly, no I don't think the team that is still there is quitting, but, the program itself is just absolutely stuck in what is an impossible situation to get out of. They need more talent, they need AA kids from Montana like all the other Frontier schools have. But, after so many games where it's just so lopsided, over and over, how, no matter who the coach is, do you get those kids to come? How do you ever win those kids over? I will give the current coaching staff credit. They have tried hard to get it going in the right direction. It hasn't happened though. And I'm left wondering, now what?
 
IdaGriz01 said:
Merkleman said:
First, police don't decide if there is bail or not.
The way it works is:

If someone is arrested at night or on weekends when the courts are not open the suspect appears in front of an "on call" judge. Bond is set. Once the courts are open there is a bail hearing. At that time a judge can grant ROR if it can be demonstrated that the suspect is not likely to continue to be a threat to anyone else and is not likely a flight risk.

Second, things are apparently done differently there than where I was in law enforcement. It's baffling to me that someone would be arrested, processed and given bail without being charged.

My guess is he was taken into custody, processed and arraigned at the onset and more information came to light that supports his story as time went on. Which would explain the ROR.

I kinda thought the retroactive imposition of the big bail resulted from the seriousness of the injuries to the guy who got the worst of it. Does that make any sense?

I guess I don't understand how bail can be retroactive. He's out. What is the "bail" for?
 
PlayerRep said:
It makes me long for the days of just a simple dui arrest.

It looks like the narrative that Stitt's players, except for Strahm (and the other guys last year and the year before), are of high character and perfect, may not be quite accurate. Hopefully, little or nothing will come of this, and certainly not a felony charge. However, this felony arrest combined with I think 3 felony arrests for the house break-in a couple years ago, ranks Stitt players above any other Griz coach, including Hauck, on felony arrests per year.

I just hate it when narratives and agendas turn out not to be accurate.

DON'T TAKE THE BAIT!!!
 
PlayerRep said:
It makes me long for the days of just a simple dui arrest.

It looks like the narrative that Stitt's players, except for Strahm (and the other guys last year and the year before), are of high character and perfect, may not be quite accurate. Hopefully, little or nothing will come of this, and certainly not a felony charge. However, this felony arrest combined with I think 3 felony arrests for the house break-in a couple years ago, ranks Stitt players above any other Griz coach, including Hauck, on felony arrests per year.

I just hate it when narratives and agendas turn out not to be accurate.

DON'T TAKE THE BAIT!!!
 
I agree. I don't know why any of these guys ever make mistakes, get into trouble, get into fights, or drink too much. I know I never did, except for a few fights or punches and getting thrown into jail a couple times. Modern day athletes should be perfect.
 
PlayerRep said:
I agree. I don't know why any of these guys ever make mistakes, get into trouble, get into fights, or drink too much. I know I never did, except for a few fights or punches and getting thrown into jail a couple times. Modern day athletes should be perfect.

Are we limiting perfection to just athletes?
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
I agree. I don't know why any of these guys ever make mistakes, get into trouble, get into fights, or drink too much. I know I never did, except for a few fights or punches and getting thrown into jail a couple times. Modern day athletes should be perfect.

Are we limiting perfection to just athletes?

No, not just athletes. Movie producers and Fox News personnel should also be perfect. And UM journalism deans.
 
PlayerRep said:
It makes me long for the days of just a simple dui arrest.

It looks like the narrative that Stitt's players, except for Strahm (and the other guys last year and the year before), are of high character and perfect, may not be quite accurate. Hopefully, little or nothing will come of this, and certainly not a felony charge. However, this felony arrest combined with I think 3 felony arrests for the house break-in a couple years ago, ranks Stitt players above any other Griz coach, including Hauck, on felony arrests per year.

I just hate it when narratives and agendas turn out not to be accurate.

How could we forget the famous home invasion comitted by Counts, Schmaing and VanAckeren. Gamboa and Kose also had problems with the law that season. I bet Stitt still wonders how they all managed to pass his 60 question character assessment during their recruitment.

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CDAGRIZ said:
IdaGriz01 said:
Merkleman said:
First, police don't decide if there is bail or not.
The way it works is:

If someone is arrested at night or on weekends when the courts are not open the suspect appears in front of an "on call" judge. Bond is set. Once the courts are open there is a bail hearing. At that time a judge can grant ROR if it can be demonstrated that the suspect is not likely to continue to be a threat to anyone else and is not likely a flight risk.

Second, things are apparently done differently there than where I was in law enforcement. It's baffling to me that someone would be arrested, processed and given bail without being charged.

My guess is he was taken into custody, processed and arraigned at the onset and more information came to light that supports his story as time went on. Which would explain the ROR.
I kinda thought the retroactive imposition of the big bail resulted from the seriousness of the injuries to the guy who got the worst of it. Does that make any sense?
I guess I don't understand how bail can be retroactive. He's out. What is the "bail" for?
Well, I don't really understand either. But "retroactive" seem like the right word when the guy is out walking the streets but apparently has to pony up some money. But the point of the "bail" seems pretty clear ... if they call the guy to appear in court, that's the club to make sure he does.
 
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