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Joining the Mountain West would run an $8MM - $9MM annual deficit - can we overcome that?

Pretty sure the MVFC would love to have us and MSU for Football and the Summit for Basketball worst case scenario, but what's going on at NAU to me highlights we need to be doing a hell of alot more to position ourselves to make a jump, even as a Football only, to FBS in the next round of mass Realignment.
What positioning? What more could-should UM do? Some of you act like UM is unaware of what is going on with football and realignment? UM has been positioning itself for the future for 20 years. Do you not listen to anyone in the athletic department or read what they say? You want UM to move up so badly that you are blind to what they are doing and to reality.
 
What positioning? What more could-should UM do? Some of you act like UM is unaware of what is going on with football and realignment? UM has been positioning itself for the future for 20 years. Do you not listen to anyone in the athletic department or read what they say? You want UM to move up so badly that you are blind to what they are doing and to reality.
What more could-should UM do? Increase enrollment with highly attractive degree programs like the PA. Period. Full stop.

Aviation/Aerospace/Aeronautical Engineering
Biomedical/Bio-engineering
Nuclear Engineering
Dental Hygiene
Nursing

I don't care if Montana State or Montana Tech have engineering programs or if they already have Nursing. Montana is in critical need of more nurses and will need more nurses for the foreseeable future. MSU will not be able to meet the demand by themselves.
 
What more could-should UM do? Increase enrollment with highly attractive degree programs like the PA. Period. Full stop.

Aviation/Aerospace/Aeronautical Engineering
Biomedical/Bio-engineering
Nuclear Engineering
Dental Hygiene
Nursing

I don't care if Montana State or Montana Tech have engineering programs or if they already have Nursing. Montana is in critical need of more nurses and will need more nurses for the foreseeable future. MSU will not be able to meet the demand by themselves.
Engineering programs are losing popularity with ai. The liberal arts which UM is already focused on is gaining back popularity as technical degrees entry level job market is taken over by ai.
 
Engineering programs are losing popularity with ai. The liberal arts which UM is already focused on is gaining back popularity as technical degrees entry level job market is taken over by ai.
I thought the same about Engineering and AI but that is not true.
 
CAN’T BE DONE! It is our duty as eGriz users to immediately inform anyone who remotely expresses a sentiment that even slightly hints at the desire to move up that (a) It costs money, (b) Bobs come with, and (c) It requires a conference invite.

The three factors above are not understood as given by literally everyone who posts on this board. Accordingly, all three can and should be used repeatedly as amazingly effective “gotchas” when some unhinged dreamer gets a clue and expresses any sort of desire for the Griz to move up.
Example:

DREAMER: It would be cool to move up!

SUPER SMART: Pssh. Get yer checkbook! BOR must approve it, and nobody invited us!

DREAMER: Oh, for reals, playa? Never mind, then. It wouldn’t be cool to move up at all now that you’ve given me this information I missed the first 43,000 times it was posted. I’ll just go back to stacking this wet dirt clod atop this other wet dirt clod and then doing that in reverse in perpetuity until I drop dead. Good thing I don’t make any decisions! Whew!

SUPER SMART: Yeah, a lot of people don’t know this stuff. Only insiders like me. [insert idiom usually reserved for a campfire or tubing on a slow river].
 
What more could-should UM do? Increase enrollment with highly attractive degree programs like the PA. Period. Full stop.

Aviation/Aerospace/Aeronautical Engineering
Biomedical/Bio-engineering
Nuclear Engineering
Dental Hygiene
Nursing

I don't care if Montana State or Montana Tech have engineering programs or if they already have Nursing. Montana is in critical need of more nurses and will need more nurses for the foreseeable future. MSU will not be able to meet the demand by themselves.
Over the last two years UM has added degree programs in Occupational Therapy and now Physician Assistant (starting this Fall). There have been rumors for the last couple years that UM is looking to start the first med school in the state of Montana and adding these two programs is a step in the right direction. I actually don't even know if the rumors are true that UM wants to start a med school or not, and if it's true I have no idea what the process is for adding a med school but I think that would be a huge addition for UM! They gotta really pursue that IMO.
 
What more could-should UM do? Increase enrollment with highly attractive degree programs like the PA. Period. Full stop.

Aviation/Aerospace/Aeronautical Engineering
Biomedical/Bio-engineering
Nuclear Engineering
Dental Hygiene
Nursing

I don't care if Montana State or Montana Tech have engineering programs or if they already have Nursing. Montana is in critical need of more nurses and will need more nurses for the foreseeable future. MSU will not be able to meet the demand by themselves.
You can get your RN (associates degree) at Missoula College.
 
What positioning? What more could-should UM do? Some of you act like UM is unaware of what is going on with football and realignment? UM has been positioning itself for the future for 20 years. Do you not listen to anyone in the athletic department or read what they say? You want UM to move up so badly that you are blind to what they are doing and to reality.
Already mentioned but there is alot more that UM could be doing both in terms of Education to increase enrollment, fundraising for the specific goal to cover moving up fees (I'd happily donate to that if it was garunteed for the $$ to only go to that), being a bit more vocal to encourage both of the above and start people talking in the sports world etc. You can always do more even if it's just being more visible and vocal.
 
Already mentioned but there is alot more that UM could be doing both in terms of Education to increase enrollment, fundraising for the specific goal to cover moving up fees (I'd happily donate to that if it was garunteed for the $$ to only go to that), being a bit more vocal to encourage both of the above and start people talking in the sports world etc. You can always do more even if it's just being more visible and vocal.
Out of state enrollment has been declining at UM which likely is the group of students whose interest level will change the most from FCS to FBS.
 
Call the Board of Regents and ask them that question. Fans can debate this topic and they have zero impact on the decision. Unless they have very deep pockets and find a way to fund the move up. I don’t see it happening. Especially since both schools have to go together.
I don't either, but I believe if you don't move now the opportunity won't be there later.
 
What more could-should UM do? Increase enrollment with highly attractive degree programs like the PA. Period. Full stop.

Aviation/Aerospace/Aeronautical Engineering
Biomedical/Bio-engineering
Nuclear Engineering
Dental Hygiene
Nursing

I don't care if Montana State or Montana Tech have engineering programs or if they already have Nursing. Montana is in critical need of more nurses and will need more nurses for the foreseeable future. MSU will not be able to meet the demand by themselves.
Okay, but that isn’t going to get UM to FBS.

Again, do you think UM has never thought of increasing enrollment?
 
What more could-should UM do? Increase enrollment with highly attractive degree programs like the PA. Period. Full stop.

Aviation/Aerospace/Aeronautical Engineering
Biomedical/Bio-engineering
Nuclear Engineering
Dental Hygiene
Nursing

I don't care if Montana State or Montana Tech have engineering programs or if they already have Nursing. Montana is in critical need of more nurses and will need more nurses for the foreseeable future. MSU will not be able to meet the demand by themselves.
The problem isn't needing more educated nurses. The problem is getting them to work in the rural areas. Im guessing montana is in the same boat as alabama. 70% of our population lives in 30% of the state while 80% of our nurses work in those areas. That leaves the other 20% to cover 70% of the state and they are spread too thin. Our governor started a special high school in Alabama solely for future nurses with the specific plan to encourage them to work in the rural areas of the state.
 
The problem isn't needing more educated nurses. The problem is getting them to work in the rural areas. Im guessing montana is in the same boat as alabama. 70% of our population lives in 30% of the state while 80% of our nurses work in those areas. That leaves the other 20% to cover 70% of the state and they are spread too thin. Our governor started a special high school in Alabama solely for future nurses with the specific plan to encourage them to work in the rural areas of the state.
In Arizona there is a critical shortage of nurses everywhere with the highest need in rural AZ. Rural AZ has the most critical staffing shortages but there are plenty of nursing positions with sign on bonuses and relocation assistance in Phoenix and Tucson too. ER’s are short staffed on nurses across the whole state. All 3 colleges in the state UofA, ASU and NAU offer nursing programs but it still isn’t enough to fill the demand.
 
The problem isn't needing more educated nurses. The problem is getting them to work in the rural areas. Im guessing montana is in the same boat as alabama. 70% of our population lives in 30% of the state while 80% of our nurses work in those areas. That leaves the other 20% to cover 70% of the state and they are spread too thin. Our governor started a special high school in Alabama solely for future nurses with the specific plan to encourage them to work in the rural areas of the state.
I think both are true. Even in urban areas, a significant number of nurses burnout quickly and leave the field so there is continual hiring for an already understaffed profession.
 
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