CocoaBear said:I know there are some resident EWU fans on these boards and as much as I despise that team, I don't wish to start anything. But I watched plenty of non-Montana EWU football this season and can say that I have not seen any other team that played as dirty week after week as the Eags.
If yesterday is the game people are looking at to say the Griz play dirty, I suggest they watch some of the previous games. Dirty play from one team begets dirty play from their opponents, and that showed last night. I saw some Griz plays that I was not proud of but I also know why they happened - EWU's players instigated a lot of the hate. No excuses for Robby's leg sweep or O'Connell's leg twists, though. I was not happy to see that. But compare the play of EWU's OL and UM's. Big difference in how cleanly each one plays, and I suspect that was a big part of why the Eagles were so successful in passing. Barriere's a great QB, don't get me wrong. But it's much easier to throw the ball when your OL holds repeatedly and doesn't get caught. And for anyone who wants to argue that EWU's OL wasn't constantly holding - I and my brother both played center, and I know a hold when I see it.
Not to mention the constant taunting from EWU players, both on and off the field. I guess living in a perpetually depressing town like Cheney makes people do that.
Ursa Major said:That is hilarious!FireGriz said:After a brief perusal of their forum, I am again reminded that Cheney and Bozeman don’t have a monopoly on football related stupidity.
Highlights include:
Montana is the filthiest team in the FCS
EB3 is a crappy QB
There are no good defenses in the Big Sky
I hope some of their fans make it over here and are able to express an opinion that wasn’t developed with the benefit of crayons and antipsychotic medications.
I wonder what the percentage of their posters grew up with indoor plumbing?
Jaredkuehn said:CocoaBear said:I know there are some resident EWU fans on these boards and as much as I despise that team, I don't wish to start anything. But I watched plenty of non-Montana EWU football this season and can say that I have not seen any other team that played as dirty week after week as the Eags.
If yesterday is the game people are looking at to say the Griz play dirty, I suggest they watch some of the previous games. Dirty play from one team begets dirty play from their opponents, and that showed last night. I saw some Griz plays that I was not proud of but I also know why they happened - EWU's players instigated a lot of the hate. No excuses for Robby's leg sweep or O'Connell's leg twists, though. I was not happy to see that. But compare the play of EWU's OL and UM's. Big difference in how cleanly each one plays, and I suspect that was a big part of why the Eagles were so successful in passing. Barriere's a great QB, don't get me wrong. But it's much easier to throw the ball when your OL holds repeatedly and doesn't get caught. And for anyone who wants to argue that EWU's OL wasn't constantly holding - I and my brother both played center, and I know a hold when I see it.
Not to mention the constant taunting from EWU players, both on and off the field. I guess living in a perpetually depressing town like Cheney makes people do that.
Someone is going to have to explain the outrage over O’Connell’s tackle on Berriere. I watched the replay this morning. Barriere was still upright and a threat to run or throw. I didn’t see anything happen after the QB went down. Is O’Connell supposed to just let go in that situation? As long as the QB is fighting to stay up, it’s fair game IMO.
CocoaBear said:Jaredkuehn said:Someone is going to have to explain the outrage over O’Connell’s tackle on Berriere. I watched the replay this morning. Barriere was still upright and a threat to run or throw. I didn’t see anything happen after the QB went down. Is O’Connell supposed to just let go in that situation? As long as the QB is fighting to stay up, it’s fair game IMO.
You may be watching a different tackle O'Connell had. I saw one where it was a pretty clear twisting motion and one that came after that looked cleaner and that I didn't see as an issue. I think Barriere and EWU fans were reacting to the same one I saw that looked unnecessary at the end of a tackle.
blackfootipa said:I don’t get it either. Hard hitting isn’t dirty. If you are wrapped up and don’t want to get hit, go down.
The play that Barriere was all pissed off at O’Connell for was so silly. O’connell was simply trying to get him to the ground. Nothing dirty about it.
Fahque said:CocoaBear said:You may be watching a different tackle O'Connell had. I saw one where it was a pretty clear twisting motion and one that came after that looked cleaner and that I didn't see as an issue. I think Barriere and EWU fans were reacting to the same one I saw that looked unnecessary at the end of a tackle.
I guess I missed the blatant leg twist as well… The tackle where Berriere got super upset was a completely legitimate tackle and O'Connell was trying to get him on the ground. It isn't touch football, the guy isn't down until he hits the ground, not when he is touched
MTGRIZ12 said:LOL...F-JMU, Griz are dirty? JMU has had 2 players ejected for targeting today! haha
RayWill said:Comes from 2008, they think the Griz purposely hurt QB Rodney Landers in order to win the game when he was hurt on a clean tackle. Also supposedly Montana smack talks a lot and tries to provoke the other team. They seemed to to think there were a lot of late hits against Eastern too. I didn't see it and neither did the refs. Overall I got the feeling the excuse train was being set up as they are not looking forward to playing Montana
RayWill said:Comes from 2008, they think the Griz purposely hurt QB Rodney Landers in order to win the game when he was hurt on a clean tackle. Also supposedly Montana smack talks a lot and tries to provoke the other team. They seemed to to think there were a lot of late hits against Eastern too. I didn't see it and neither did the refs. Overall I got the feeling the excuse train was being set up as they are not looking forward to playing Montana
grizghost said:Robby Hauck is the player that seems to be the late hitter that my Cat friends complained about..
I guess Eags also had a problem with him too..
jodcon said:grizghost said:Robby Hauck is the player that seems to be the late hitter that my Cat friends complained about..
I guess Eags also had a problem with him too..
He pushes the envelope on sideline and late hits, and runs his mouth a lot more than he should, so I understand why he isn’t winning Miss Congeniality anytime soon.
I have more problems with his cheating on D at times and getting burned by it than his demeanor.
EverettGriz said:jodcon said:He pushes the envelope on sideline and late hits, and runs his mouth a lot more than he should, so I understand why he isn’t winning Miss Congeniality anytime soon.
I have more problems with his cheating on D at times and getting burned by it than his demeanor.
Guys that are universally disliked by other fan bases are the guys I want on my team.
jodcon said:grizghost said:Robby Hauck is the player that seems to be the late hitter that my Cat friends complained about..
I guess Eags also had a problem with him too..
He pushes the envelope on sideline and late hits, and runs his mouth a lot more than he should, so I understand why he isn’t winning Miss Congeniality anytime soon.
I have more problems with his cheating on D at times and getting burned by it than his demeanor.
grizzliesthetics said:Over on the JMU board they seem to believe that MT is one of the dirtiest FCS teams. When did this become a thing?
jodcon said:EverettGriz said:Guys that are universally disliked by other fan bases are the guys I want on my team.
Agreed, although I can’t deny that Robby does drive me nuts at times.