JJ Charged With Rape

[Paytonlives]

If he is guilty... throw the book at him

If he is not... does the NCAA have a provision for an athlete who is wrongly acussed and misses a year?

 

[Bear Axed]

It is what it is, Two families lives have been changed forever. if you are a parent or child, I hope you never have to be on either side of this. Let's give it a rest and focus on other things. Griz fans can go give their best to Tru and Cat fans to Elvis,trash Monte or Champ, or talk color of uniforms. Channel your engeries to productive things. There is nothing to come from the banter and speculation on this board. Make the state of Montana proud.

This is kinda what I was trying to say but goddamn I would love to square up Bear Axed and Hammer right in the face! Good job on the post by the way! :clap:

 

[Htowngriz]

If he is guilty... throw the book at him

If he is not... does the NCAA have a provision for an athlete who is wrongly acussed and misses a year?

Maybe you should ask Mr.Wilson. :x

 

[Flathead Griz]

Based solely on the charging documents that have been made public, I don't see anyway that there would be a conviction. The County will spend hundreds of thousands of tax dollars and cost JJ's family the same and only serve as a storyline for the media.

 

[Grizbacker1]

The length of time between when he was accused and when he was charged still confuses me a little. Is this normal?

I have to agree, what happend to bring this on? has new evidence been found? or did the um legal hazmat team just run out of smoke?

shouldn't you be down at the Gallatin Co jail visiting a couple of your bobscat basketball players?

 

[Allezchat]

You know, sometimes sh*t happens. You can't control your players all the time. But, said bball players have already been suspended from the team. They didn't get the "good citizen award" from their coach.

 

[kemajic]

If he is guilty... throw the book at him

If he is not... does the NCAA have a provision for an athlete who is wrongly acussed and misses a year?

In his case, it would be called a redshirt.

 

[ATLCAT]

That is a great 'spin' grizpoker1. Its amazing to me that when Cats bring up past events, we are told to live in the now. Maybe you turds can try it too. You turds are in so deep though, maybe trying to live in the past, when things didn't stink so bad is the only positive thing going right now.

Guilty or innocent, the right now is that your high moral fiber qb has been officially charged with rape. That isn't going away today.

Tough cookies!

 

[indian-outlaw]

Based solely on the charging documents that have been made public, I don't see anyway that there would be a conviction. The County will spend hundreds of thousands of tax dollars and cost JJ's family the same and only serve as a storyline for the media.

Baloney, I wouldn't want to be sitting in front of a Missoula County jury with that evidence. People have been convicted with less than that on rape charges. It will depend on how credible the witnesses are.

 

[funny water]

That is a great 'spin' grizpoker1. Its amazing to me that when Cats bring up past events, we are told to live in the now. Maybe you turds can try it too. You turds are in so deep though, maybe trying to live in the past, when things didn't stink so bad is the only positive thing going right now.

Guilty or innocent, the right now is that your high moral fiber qb has been officially charged with rape. That isn't going away today.

Tough cookies!

and the Griz will still win come Nov 17...... :thumb:

 

[BDizzle]

Based solely on the charging documents that have been made public, I don't see anyway that there would be a conviction. The County will spend hundreds of thousands of tax dollars and cost JJ's family the same and only serve as a storyline for the media.

Baloney, I wouldn't want to be sitting in front of a Missoula County jury with that evidence. People have been convicted with less than that on rape charges. It will depend on how credible the witnesses are.

This girl is going to get destroyed in court.

 

[grizhunter]

Based solely on the charging documents that have been made public, I don't see anyway that there would be a conviction. The County will spend hundreds of thousands of tax dollars and cost JJ's family the same and only serve as a storyline for the media.

Baloney, I wouldn't want to be sitting in front of a Missoula County jury with that evidence. People have been convicted with less than that on rape charges. It will depend on how credible the witnesses are.

This girl is going to get destroyed in court.

Why?

 

[BDizzle]

Based solely on the charging documents that have been made public, I don't see anyway that there would be a conviction. The County will spend hundreds of thousands of tax dollars and cost JJ's family the same and only serve as a storyline for the media.

Baloney, I wouldn't want to be sitting in front of a Missoula County jury with that evidence. People have been convicted with less than that on rape charges. It will depend on how credible the witnesses are.

This girl is going to get destroyed in court.

Why?

Lets just say the whole football and basketball teams might get called as witnesses by the defense.

 

[indian-outlaw]

Baloney, I wouldn't want to be sitting in front of a Missoula County jury with that evidence. People have been convicted with less than that on rape charges. It will depend on how credible the witnesses are.

This girl is going to get destroyed in court.

Why?

Lets just say the whole football and basketball teams might get called as witnesses by the defense.

That may work in her favor. I think he's going down, at the very least it will be reduced to sexual assault.

 

[grizhunter]

Baloney, I wouldn't want to be sitting in front of a Missoula County jury with that evidence. People have been convicted with less than that on rape charges. It will depend on how credible the witnesses are.

This girl is going to get destroyed in court.

Why?

Lets just say the whole football and basketball teams might get called as witnesses by the defense.

I was a juror involved in a very crazy ass rape case, amazing how everything comes down to how it fits in the definition of the laws, will be super interesting to see how this turns out. I hope the best for both parties until the verdict.

 

[Flathead Griz]

Based solely on the charging documents that have been made public, I don't see anyway that there would be a conviction. The County will spend hundreds of thousands of tax dollars and cost JJ's family the same and only serve as a storyline for the media.

Baloney, I wouldn't want to be sitting in front of a Missoula County jury with that evidence. People have been convicted with less than that on rape charges. It will depend on how credible the witnesses are.

This girl is going to get destroyed in court.

In all probability the girl will be destroyed in court. In the documents she claims she said, "not tonight", which does imply an ongoing sexual relationship. So what really does "not tonight" mean and think about where a defense attorney can go with that.

 

[ilovethecats]

she will get destroyed. and jj will too. that's why these things suck. keep in mind...men have went to prison for raping their wives before so an on-going sexual relationship means nothing. once a woman says no...that's it.

 

[funny water]

I was a juror involved in a very crazy ass rape case, amazing how everything comes down to how it fits in the definition of the laws, will be super interesting to see how this turns out. I hope the best for both parties until the verdict.

i guess that is why it's best we just let the legal system run it's course.... the charging document looks very incriminating towards Johnson but that is what charging documents do..... they aren't set out to help the defendant.... one interesting aspect to me is the defense & prosecuting attorney's are going to have a difficult time in Missoula County finding a jury pool who are not biased one way or the other with the amount of local media coverage on this case.

having never sat on a jury, i'm curious Grizhunter - what kinds of questions were you asked during the selection process?

 

[BDizzle]

I agree. In no way am I saying that JJ didn't rape her cause I really don't know but this case is going to be a huge he said/she said. There is proof (well word of mouth) that she has willingly slept with multiple football and basketball players. The classic JC. I think JJ is in trouble just for the fact that he had been drinking and she did go to the rape center the next day. Hope the truth gets out and justice is brought one way or another.

 

[Flathead Griz]

she will get destroyed. and jj will too. that's why these things suck. keep in mind...men have went to prison for raping their wives before so an on-going sexual relationship means nothing. once a woman says no...that's it.

I agree, both parties will be losers no matter what the court outcome is. Gwen and the the rest of the media will be the only winners.