Good Lord! Will you admit you have an agenda already? You have all of these adopted kids, apparently at least some of which were problem kids, who have grown up to be judges, social workers, pastors, et al, et al, and no mistakes. Now you have the worlds greatest border guard in your family too. If I were Chuck Norris, or the Worlds Most Interesting Man, I would be jealous of you. Problem is that you are full of sh**. You showed up on this board when all of this started, with an agenda, and you will disappear when it is over. I read where one guy called you intelligent and I almost gagged. You are phony, and I still think you are a woman. I admit my bias. I believe JJ. I am jaded against women. I also admit I am generalizing here, but women are manipulative, vindictive, and vengeful when things don't go there way. There are exceptions, of course, like my 2 teenage daughters, one of which is going to be a brain surgeon, and the other an astro-physicist(I keed, I keed). Remember, I admitted to everything that was bias, off colored, or sexist. Try it.tnt said:That or the JJ can't be found guilty thread is more interesting or the fact that most folks know exactly what attitudes/actions I have been referring toare, and are a bit nervous as to what the NCAA will find and whether it comes before or after the DOJ and DOE reports. Everybody has a story or two from the "dress code" at a certain running backs after game parties, The non gang rape which reflects on the department almost as badly as if she had been roofied (which is still being investigated) Its just not wise to put them all in one place.
My wifes grandfather was one of the most succesful border guards od all time in terms of busts. They brought him in to learn his great investigative techniques they were disappointed. His answer was to simply hang out at the area bars on Friday and Saturday night. Hear the NCAA guys have been spotted at both Reds and the MO club. I have heard more than one doofus bragging about his inside connections with everyone from the players to Monte
argh! said:Hammer said:Growler1 said:crackgina said:Your posts show you made up your "gluteous mind" quite some time ago bud. I'm going to nickname you "PC-Spiffy" because you always know the "right" side to side with early.
P.S. Reading texts FROM THE ACCUSER is not speculation. Use a speculum to pull your head out and wake up.
argie, I think he's got you there! The evidence is out there if you take the time to find it. She has ZERO case, my friend!
I don't agree with G1 often, but he's absolutely correct on this. JJ hooked up with a psycho whore and it bit him in the arse.....hard.
maybe he did, but the official description of events put forward so far (by the prosecutor and johnson's lawyer) can be interpreted in multiple ways. that is all the information i'm going to believe at this point, and i'm certainly not going to buy in to all the conjecture and unsubstantiated claims.
it is good to be skeptical - of both sides. women make false reports, and in the missoula 'justice' system there is without a doubt a strong bias to simply believe a woman's story (karen orzech comes to mind). but then again, some guys are just shitty people who would screw an uncooperative (and unaroused) partner.
i don't know what happened, and neither do you. all you know is a bunch of gossip and what johnson's lawyer has crafted.
geez.
PTGrizzly said:MTGriz87 said:I can't believe the detail given in the affidavit, mostly the potential witness list. Why does that need to be public record? Not only could that give some people the ability to put two and two together to figure out the identities of those involved, it also puts the witnesses in a tough spot of people probably prodding them about the matter
I thought the same thing about the witness's. Not very smart IMO.
go4two said:PTGrizzly said:MTGriz87 said:I can't believe the detail given in the affidavit, mostly the potential witness list. Why does that need to be public record? Not only could that give some people the ability to put two and two together to figure out the identities of those involved, it also puts the witnesses in a tough spot of people probably prodding them about the matter
I thought the same thing about the witness's. Not very smart IMO.
I agree, this is not good for the alleged victim. I was able to figure out who she is in a matter of a few hours using the witness list. I will keep her identity to myself. Google is very powerful, and the legal system needs to re-think what they put out as "public" information.
go4two said:PTGrizzly said:MTGriz87 said:I can't believe the detail given in the affidavit, mostly the potential witness list. Why does that need to be public record? Not only could that give some people the ability to put two and two together to figure out the identities of those involved, it also puts the witnesses in a tough spot of people probably prodding them about the matter
I thought the same thing about the witness's. Not very smart IMO.
I agree, this is not good for the alleged victim. I was able to figure out who she is in a matter of a few hours using the witness list. I will keep her identity to myself. Google is very powerful, and the legal system needs to re-think what they put out as "public" information.
crackgina said:So if someone at the Missoulian actually researched something in depth, that would make them a stalker? It's clear why you support the Missoulian now...ignorance is bliss in your world.
It is interesting you would say that. About a year ago someone here made a comment about tracking an individual's donations to UM. Since I have always given to places "Anonymously" I assumed, incorrectly, apparently, that such gifts would remain non public. I have not given one penny to UM since then. It was a wake up call. The internet is a tool often misused.ordigger said:go4two said:PTGrizzly said:MTGriz87 said:I can't believe the detail given in the affidavit, mostly the potential witness list. Why does that need to be public record? Not only could that give some people the ability to put two and two together to figure out the identities of those involved, it also puts the witnesses in a tough spot of people probably prodding them about the matter
I thought the same thing about the witness's. Not very smart IMO.
I agree, this is not good for the alleged victim. I was able to figure out who she is in a matter of a few hours using the witness list. I will keep her identity to myself. Google is very powerful, and the legal system needs to re-think what they put out as "public" information.
A little scarey that you spent a couple of hours trying to figure out who she is. Personally I could careless who she is. Why would anyone take that much time to determine whom someone is? Egriz leads to a stalking mentality at times.
GrizLA said:It is interesting you would say that. About a year ago someone here made a comment about tracking an individual's donations to UM. Since I have always given to places "Anonymously" I assumed, incorrectly, apparently, that such gifts would remain non public. I have not given one penny to UM since then. It was a wake up call. The internet is a tool often misused.ordigger said:go4two said:PTGrizzly said:I thought the same thing about the witness's. Not very smart IMO.
I agree, this is not good for the alleged victim. I was able to figure out who she is in a matter of a few hours using the witness list. I will keep her identity to myself. Google is very powerful, and the legal system needs to re-think what they put out as "public" information.
A little scarey that you spent a couple of hours trying to figure out who she is. Personally I could careless who she is. Why would anyone take that much time to determine whom someone is? Egriz leads to a stalking mentality at times.
argh! said:crackgina said:So if someone at the Missoulian actually researched something in depth, that would make them a stalker? It's clear why you support the Missoulian now...ignorance is bliss in your world.
are you saying you work for the missoulian?
crackgina said:GrizLA said:It is interesting you would say that. About a year ago someone here made a comment about tracking an individual's donations to UM. Since I have always given to places "Anonymously" I assumed, incorrectly, apparently, that such gifts would remain non public. I have not given one penny to UM since then. It was a wake up call. The internet is a tool often misused.ordigger said:go4two said:I agree, this is not good for the alleged victim. I was able to figure out who she is in a matter of a few hours using the witness list. I will keep her identity to myself. Google is very powerful, and the legal system needs to re-think what they put out as "public" information.
A little scarey that you spent a couple of hours trying to figure out who she is. Personally I could careless who she is. Why would anyone take that much time to determine whom someone is? Egriz leads to a stalking mentality at times.
And Oredigger and Argh are just plain tools.
Mousegriz said:Nice golf last week, Crack!!
So what? Better tools than stalker...in fact, I get a kick out of Argh's mindless posts. Which shows how mindless I am, I guess.crackgina said:GrizLA said:It is interesting you would say that. About a year ago someone here made a comment about tracking an individual's donations to UM. Since I have always given to places "Anonymously" I assumed, incorrectly, apparently, that such gifts would remain non public. I have not given one penny to UM since then. It was a wake up call. The internet is a tool often misused.ordigger said:go4two said:I agree, this is not good for the alleged victim. I was able to figure out who she is in a matter of a few hours using the witness list. I will keep her identity to myself. Google is very powerful, and the legal system needs to re-think what they put out as "public" information.
A little scarey that you spent a couple of hours trying to figure out who she is. Personally I could careless who she is. Why would anyone take that much time to determine whom someone is? Egriz leads to a stalking mentality at times.
And Oredigger and Argh are just plain tools.
ordigger said:go4two said:PTGrizzly said:MTGriz87 said:I can't believe the detail given in the affidavit, mostly the potential witness list. Why does that need to be public record? Not only could that give some people the ability to put two and two together to figure out the identities of those involved, it also puts the witnesses in a tough spot of people probably prodding them about the matter
I thought the same thing about the witness's. Not very smart IMO.
I agree, this is not good for the alleged victim. I was able to figure out who she is in a matter of a few hours using the witness list. I will keep her identity to myself. Google is very powerful, and the legal system needs to re-think what they put out as "public" information.
A little scarey that you spent a couple of hours trying to figure out who she is. Personally I could careless who she is. Why would anyone take that much time to determine whom someone is? Egriz leads to a stalking mentality at times.
go4two said:ordigger said:go4two said:PTGrizzly said:I thought the same thing about the witness's. Not very smart IMO.
I agree, this is not good for the alleged victim. I was able to figure out who she is in a matter of a few hours using the witness list. I will keep her identity to myself. Google is very powerful, and the legal system needs to re-think what they put out as "public" information.
A little scarey that you spent a couple of hours trying to figure out who she is. Personally I could careless who she is. Why would anyone take that much time to determine whom someone is? Egriz leads to a stalking mentality at times.
To prove that it could easily be done. JJ's defense team is going to have a tough time discrediting the accuser's allegations. She appears to be very intelligent, an over achiever, and model citizen. I feel sorry for whomever will be on the jury. This is going to be a very tough decision for a juror to make.