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Ivy League cancels spring practices

bgbigdog said:
grizindabox said:
indian-outlaw said:
retiredpopo said:
heard today from CDC that death rate is actually less than 1%. Liberal media will spin this to make it look like the zombie apocalypse is upon us. Pretty soon they will be reporting a shortage of toilet paper oh wait that was last week.

Why don't they ever report on the recovery rate? Oh because that does not look dismal at all.
Not sure where you're getting these numbers but I highly doubt it is from the CDC. I just ran the numbers myself and currently there are 97,939 cases of known infections and 3,386 deaths. That is ~3.4% mortality, which is way higher that the flu. Some virologists are predicting that 70% of the worlds population will be effected by this virus. If that is anywhere true then hundreds of millions of people will die.
The narrative that it is just a media conspiracy to make big daddy Donald look bad doesn't make any sense to a logical person.

I think the key word is "known". How many cases are "unknown"? That is why people tend to think the mortality rate is lower. But if the infection rate is higher, even at a lower mortality rate, it could be a sizable number, and just how many deaths is acceptable?

God has spoken.

Stanford economists have demonstrated that the average value of a year of quality human life is actually closer to about $129,000.

Simple multiplication.

Ps. Old folks can suck it.

I am sure your parents and grandparents appreciate the sentiment.
 
grizindabox said:
indian-outlaw said:
retiredpopo said:
heard today from CDC that death rate is actually less than 1%. Liberal media will spin this to make it look like the zombie apocalypse is upon us. Pretty soon they will be reporting a shortage of toilet paper oh wait that was last week.

Why don't they ever report on the recovery rate? Oh because that does not look dismal at all.
Not sure where you're getting these numbers but I highly doubt it is from the CDC. I just ran the numbers myself and currently there are 97,939 cases of known infections and 3,386 deaths. That is ~3.4% mortality, which is way higher that the flu. Some virologists are predicting that 70% of the worlds population will be effected by this virus. If that is anywhere true then hundreds of millions of people will die.
The narrative that it is just a media conspiracy to make big daddy Donald look bad doesn't make any sense to a logical person.

I think the key word is "known". How many cases are "unknown"? That is why people tend to think the mortality rate is lower. But if the infection rate is higher, even at a lower mortality rate, it could be a sizable number, and just how many deaths is acceptable?
I agree that the key word is known. So how many people have died in north korea, iran and china from corona virus that were unknown? It works both ways. I agree it is probably going to be something less than 3.4% but I have to assume that is in the ball park and that is a huge number. And all these infectious disease experts like PR that are downplaying it because someone might miss out on their spring sport or lose some money in their 401K are the ones not being rational.
 
PR has given you numbers, FACTS. This virus is another form of the flu. If the flu is gonna kill ya, see ya! All this hype is pure horeshit. The cure is worse than the disease. Sounds like a quote from my youth, "We had to destroy the village in order to save it." :roll: Canceling events, school closures, banning gatherings of more than XXX number, and other proposed solutions, are at best, a gross overreaction. Look at the hyperventilation happening on Wall Street.

How about a trip down memory lane. Almost all you should be able to play. The H1N1 virus of 2009 had 43.3-89.3million cases, 274,304 hospitalizations, 12,469 deaths. These figures are for the United States. Worldwide, 151,700-575,400 died. The primary victims were UNDER 60(they had antibodies from prior, weaker form of the virus. The young were especially vulnerable. Now, THATS A CRISIS! Didn't hear about it? Why? Obama was just elected President, and the drive-by media didn't report on it, so as not to soil that bastards legacy.

Those advocating draconian measures are the same people advocating Medicare For All(cost is more than the total value of the Dow), the Green New Deal, killing all cows because they fart methane, eliminating fossil fuel use, etc., etc., etc. Same logic as confiscating all guns, because that will make you safer. This is all left wing politics wrapped around a convenient cause, a flu virus. Remember that left wing Democrat whacko Rahm Emanuel said, "You never want a serious crisis go to waste...its and opportunity to do things that you think you could not before."

Personally, I hope bunches of you season ticket holders at WGS do give up your tickets. I'll snap up a few choice ones and enjoy the bounty of your stupidity.
 
tourist said:
PR has given you numbers, FACTS. This virus is another form of the flu. If the flu is gonna kill ya, see ya! All this hype is pure horeshit. The cure is worse than the disease. Sounds like a quote from my youth, "We had to destroy the village in order to save it." :roll: Canceling events, school closures, banning gatherings of more than XXX number, and other proposed solutions, are at best, a gross overreaction. Look at the hyperventilation happening on Wall Street.

How about a trip down memory lane. Almost all you should be able to play. The H1N1 virus of 2009 had 43.3-89.3million cases, 274,304 hospitalizations, 12,469 deaths. These figures are for the United States. Worldwide, 151,700-575,400 died. The primary victims were UNDER 60(they had antibodies from prior, weaker form of the virus. The young were especially vulnerable. Now, THATS A CRISIS! Didn't hear about it? Why? Obama was just elected President, and the drive-by media didn't report on it, so as not to soil that bastards legacy.

Those advocating draconian measures are the same people advocating Medicare For All(cost is more than the total value of the Dow), the Green New Deal, killing all cows because they fart methane, eliminating fossil fuel use, etc., etc., etc. Same logic as confiscating all guns, because that will make you safer. This is all left wing politics wrapped around a convenient cause, a flu virus. Remember that left wing Democrat whacko Rahm Emanuel said, "You never want a serious crisis go to waste...its and opportunity to do things that you think you could not before."
I think you should take a tourist trip to china. I'm sure you could get a great deal on plane tickets, the restaurants are probably pretty cheap too. A small price to pay for catching a sniffle.
 
Montana University system formally cancels in-person classes. Big Sky tourney is canceled. Seems like the announcement canceling spring ball is just a matter of time.
 
firmgriz said:
Montana University system formally cancels in-person classes. Big Sky tourney is canceled. Seems like the announcement canceling spring ball is just a matter of time.

Who says MT U System if cancelling in-person classes?
 
University of Montana
@umontana
·
9m
As of March 23, all Montana University System campuses will, in every instance possible, transition all in-class instruction to online and remote modalities, per
@musCommissioner
. The full statement can be found http://bit.ly/2U2GRiW.
 
grizindabox said:
University of Montana
@umontana
·
9m
As of March 23, all Montana University System campuses will, in every instance possible, transition all in-class instruction to online and remote modalities, per
@musCommissioner
. The full statement can be found http://bit.ly/2U2GRiW.

They should be sending me some money then at least for room and board.
 
indian-outlaw said:
tourist said:
PR has given you numbers, FACTS. This virus is another form of the flu. If the flu is gonna kill ya, see ya! All this hype is pure horeshit. The cure is worse than the disease. Sounds like a quote from my youth, "We had to destroy the village in order to save it." :roll: Canceling events, school closures, banning gatherings of more than XXX number, and other proposed solutions, are at best, a gross overreaction. Look at the hyperventilation happening on Wall Street.

How about a trip down memory lane. Almost all you should be able to play. The H1N1 virus of 2009 had 43.3-89.3million cases, 274,304 hospitalizations, 12,469 deaths. These figures are for the United States. Worldwide, 151,700-575,400 died. The primary victims were UNDER 60(they had antibodies from prior, weaker form of the virus. The young were especially vulnerable. Now, THATS A CRISIS! Didn't hear about it? Why? Obama was just elected President, and the drive-by media didn't report on it, so as not to soil that bastards legacy.

Those advocating draconian measures are the same people advocating Medicare For All(cost is more than the total value of the Dow), the Green New Deal, killing all cows because they fart methane, eliminating fossil fuel use, etc., etc., etc. Same logic as confiscating all guns, because that will make you safer. This is all left wing politics wrapped around a convenient cause, a flu virus. Remember that left wing Democrat whacko Rahm Emanuel said, "You never want a serious crisis go to waste...its and opportunity to do things that you think you could not before."
I think you should take a tourist trip to china. I'm sure you could get a great deal on plane tickets, the restaurants are probably pretty cheap too. A small price to pay for catching a sniffle.

I went to Hong Kong 8 days after the WHO announcement of the big SARs outbreak in Hong Kong. For the HK rugby tourney. Everything was fine and no big deal. I suppose I could die of Coronavirus or most anything, and I'm not going to be stupid or reckless, but this one doesn't concern me much, personally. Why wouldn't I go to Miami and Key West for spring break. One case, travel-related, in Miami-Dade County and none in Key West. Note that I'm not going to Kirkland WA to a certain nursing home.
 
I guess the NBA and NHL must be left wing alarmists as well :roll: If you have the time just think of all the contacts that 3 (at this point) NBA players must have made in the last two weeks. You have all the opposing players first of all where there was almost certainly bodily contact. Then you have the servers in restaurants, hotel staff, airlines staff, anyone who got an autograph etc. etc.......... So all those people should be tested but most will never be found. And if even a fraction are positive then there are all the people they have been in contact with. This is how the stuff spreads and it is not some left wing conspiracy. It is not alarmist to close down events, its common sense. Reducing social interaction is the only way to reduce the spread and that is how we are going to come back from this. And I would hope, no matter what political point of view you hold, that we all want this to go away and quit impacting public health and the economy. If we put our heads in sand and blame conspiracies and call scientists and doctors alarmists then none of us may be watching Griz football in the fall.
 
PlayerRep said:
firmgriz said:
Montana University system formally cancels in-person classes. Big Sky tourney is canceled. Seems like the announcement canceling spring ball is just a matter of time.

Who says MT U System if cancelling in-person classes? Edit: Thanks.
 
grizindabox said:
University of Montana
@umontana
·
9m
As of March 23, all Montana University System campuses will, in every instance possible, transition all in-class instruction to online and remote modalities, per
@musCommissioner
. The full statement can be found http://bit.ly/2U2GRiW.

Campuses will still be open, tho.

"2. MUS campuses will remain open and operational for students. This includes residence halls, dining services, computer labs, and most other campus services. Employees will continue to report to work unless instructed otherwise or work-from-home accommodations are developed in individual cases."
 
PlayerRep said:
grizindabox said:
University of Montana
@umontana
·
9m
As of March 23, all Montana University System campuses will, in every instance possible, transition all in-class instruction to online and remote modalities, per
@musCommissioner
. The full statement can be found http://bit.ly/2U2GRiW.

Campuses will still be open, tho.

"2. MUS campuses will remain open and operational for students. This includes residence halls, dining services, computer labs, and most other campus services. Employees will continue to report to work unless instructed otherwise or work-from-home accommodations are developed in individual cases."

But no in-person classes, which firmgriz stated.
 
grizindabox said:
PlayerRep said:
grizindabox said:
University of Montana
@umontana
·
9m
As of March 23, all Montana University System campuses will, in every instance possible, transition all in-class instruction to online and remote modalities, per
@musCommissioner
. The full statement can be found http://bit.ly/2U2GRiW.

Campuses will still be open, tho.

"2. MUS campuses will remain open and operational for students. This includes residence halls, dining services, computer labs, and most other campus services. Employees will continue to report to work unless instructed otherwise or work-from-home accommodations are developed in individual cases."

But no in-person classes, which firmgriz stated.

Yes, sort of no in-person classes. It says "campuses will, in every instance possible, transition all in-class instruction to online and remote modalities". Note the "in every instance possible". Does that include dance classes. What about lab classes for science people. What about acting>
 
MCPS, not closing, yet:

"Question: The entire Montana University System is going online for classes following spring break. What is MCPS going to do?

· Our teachers are already working on plans for how to deliver online learning to prevent learning loss if we are required to close schools to limit the speed that COVID-19 spreads in our community.
· Families can always make their own decisions to keep their students home to participate in online instruction.
· That online learning would not count toward our required annual minutes of instruction per Montana Accreditation standards and Montana law.
· We are also working with our legal counsel and our board to investigate options in Montana law for school closure by declaration of emergency.
· We will follow the guidance of the public health community in deciding to close an individual school or all of our schools. These are some of the factors we will consider before making any decisions about closing school:
· The best ways to limit the spread of COVID-19 in Missoula
· The impacts of spread of COVID-19 on our health care resources
· The impact on families who would need child care and on children who may miss meals
· Percentages of staff and students absent
· Considerations under which circumstances we would feel confident reopening a school

Any decisions that MCPS makes in the coming days will be shared with parents via email, phone, and text to all parents, placed on our www.mcpsmt.org/covid-19 website and on social media. Please monitor those pages for information during spring break."
 
I feel bad for the Griz men's basketball team and seniors. I guess they needed to win those last 2 games. What a bummer for them?

Idaho, like MT, has no coronavirus cases. None.

Personally, I find cancelation of an ongoing tourney that would end on Saturday to be totally ridiculous. In a state with no cases.
 
PlayerRep said:
I feel bad for the Griz men's basketball team and seniors. I guess they needed to win those last 2 games. What a bummer for them?

Idaho, like MT, has no coronavirus cases. None.

Personally, I find cancelation of an ongoing tourney that would end on Saturday to be totally ridiculous. In a state with no cases.

They will be able to tell their grandchildren " We were on our way to winning the National Championship when the stupid Corona thing broke out." That would be my story and I would stick with it.
 
indian-outlaw said:
grizindabox said:
indian-outlaw said:
retiredpopo said:
heard today from CDC that death rate is actually less than 1%. Liberal media will spin this to make it look like the zombie apocalypse is upon us. Pretty soon they will be reporting a shortage of toilet paper oh wait that was last week.

Why don't they ever report on the recovery rate? Oh because that does not look dismal at all.
Not sure where you're getting these numbers but I highly doubt it is from the CDC. I just ran the numbers myself and currently there are 97,939 cases of known infections and 3,386 deaths. That is ~3.4% mortality, which is way higher that the flu. Some virologists are predicting that 70% of the worlds population will be effected by this virus. If that is anywhere true then hundreds of millions of people will die.
The narrative that it is just a media conspiracy to make big daddy Donald look bad doesn't make any sense to a logical person.

I think the key word is "known". How many cases are "unknown"? That is why people tend to think the mortality rate is lower. But if the infection rate is higher, even at a lower mortality rate, it could be a sizable number, and just how many deaths is acceptable?
I agree that the key word is known. So how many people have died in north korea, iran and china from corona virus that were unknown? It works both ways. I agree it is probably going to be something less than 3.4% but I have to assume that is in the ball park and that is a huge number. And all these infectious disease experts like PR that are downplaying it because someone might miss out on their spring sport or lose some money in their 401K are the ones not being rational.

Current mortality rate is based on CONFIRMED cases. Considering the issues with test kits, the likely number of those affected is much higher.
 
ordigger said:
indian-outlaw said:
grizindabox said:
indian-outlaw said:
Not sure where you're getting these numbers but I highly doubt it is from the CDC. I just ran the numbers myself and currently there are 97,939 cases of known infections and 3,386 deaths. That is ~3.4% mortality, which is way higher that the flu. Some virologists are predicting that 70% of the worlds population will be effected by this virus. If that is anywhere true then hundreds of millions of people will die.
The narrative that it is just a media conspiracy to make big daddy Donald look bad doesn't make any sense to a logical person.

I think the key word is "known". How many cases are "unknown"? That is why people tend to think the mortality rate is lower. But if the infection rate is higher, even at a lower mortality rate, it could be a sizable number, and just how many deaths is acceptable?
I agree that the key word is known. So how many people have died in north korea, iran and china from corona virus that were unknown? It works both ways. I agree it is probably going to be something less than 3.4% but I have to assume that is in the ball park and that is a huge number. And all these infectious disease experts like PR that are downplaying it because someone might miss out on their spring sport or lose some money in their 401K are the ones not being rational.

Current mortality rate is based on CONFIRMED cases. Considering the issues with test kits, the likely number of those affected is much higher.
Again, that is a two way street. How many people have died with corona virus that were old and had it contributed to the regular flu or natural causes? The number of deaths could also be way lower than official confirmed numbers.
 
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