Ivy League cancels spring practices

[GoldenEagle]

argh! is brilliant in a sea of egriz morons.

 

[PlayerRep]

jayzus greenie, you sound like trump. young people might not get very ill themselves, but if they catch it, it is more likely to be passed on to old, self-entitled f***[*] like you. seems to me you'd rather bobby jr go out and catch it, then give it to you, than bobby jr missing an unimportant event like hob-nobbing with the old and infirm, like you, and then pass the disease to you (robbie usually lets the other guy catch it).

that paragraph will take an eighth grade reading level to comprehend, so most of you egrizzers should pass on re-reading it, abstract thought being difficult, and whatnot.

The Ivy League presidents and administrators are wimps.

College age people are not in danger. In Japan, where they are lots of cases, no one under 50 has died. In South Korea, no one under 30.

In US, 17 of the 22 deaths are from the old folks home in Kirkland. Something like 3-6 people die that each month.

In WA, I believe there is only one case of an infected younger person. He works for Amazon and spends lots of time in Wuhan.

The people dying are older people who also have serious underlying health risks. It is thought that lots of people don't even know they have the virus because they aren't sick at all, or barely sick, and don't go to the doctor.

Old peoples' conventions should be cancelled, not college sports, and especially not spring ball. Harvard and Stanford have gone to online classes. Stanford's isn't necessarily permanent.

The media is irresponsible. They should be listing daily flu infections and deaths.

"While the impact of flu varies, it places a substantial burden on the health of people in the United States each year. CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010." [Compare that to 22 in the US so far.]

Coronavirus has been around for a long time, just not this strain, i.e. covid 19.

“Messonnier added that children appear to be largely safe from developing coronavirus. Based on the study, just 2 percent of the 70,000 cases in China occurred in people under 19 years old.

As of Monday, there have been 586 confirmed cases of coronavirus in the U.S. and 22 deaths. The number of cases went up by 236 over the last two days, with the majority occurring in Washington state, California and New York. All but three of the deaths have been in Washington state, where 17 people from a long-term nursing facility outside of Seattle have died."

"Data from the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention (CCDC) finds that more than 80% of the cases have been mild, with the sick and elderly most at risk.

The report by the CCDC shows the province's death rate is 2.9% compared with 0.4% in the rest of the country.

The findings put the overall death rate of the Covid-19 virus at 2.3%."

Funny comments from someone who writes like a 3d grader.

 

[tourist]

crisis or not, it will be safe to assume that overall college football attendance will be down this fall as a result.

It is safe to assume YOU were probably wearing a surgical mask while typing your insightful post.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/09/health/coronavirus-is-very-different-from-the-spanish-flu-of-1918-heres-how.html

 

[PlayerRep]

Death rate by age, from a study. Rates probably too high, because the denominator is too low given that many people few or minor symptoms and don't know they have had it. The death rate has gone way done in China, as they learned to deal with the situation. Most of the US deaths are still from the Kirland nursing home and now another nursing home in that area (where 3 have died).

AGE
DEATH RATE
confirmed cases
DEATH RATE
all cases
80+ years old

21.9%
14.8%

70-79 years old
8.0%

60-69 years old
3.6%

50-59 years old
1.3%

40-49 years old
0.4%
30-39 years old

0.2%
20-29 years old

0.2%
10-19 years old


0.2%
0-9 years old

Of the 30 or so US deaths, at least 21 are from nursing homes, mainly 1, in King County WA. See below for the 2 new deaths and note ages and where they were.

"The two new deaths are:

A woman in her 80s, a resident of Issaquah Nursing and Rehabilitation Center, was hospitalized at Swedish Issaquah, and died on 3/8/20. (This case was previously reported as a positive case on 3/7/20, in an earlier case count.)
A male in his 80s, a resident of Ida Culver House, was hospitalized at University of Washington Medical Center, and died on 3/9/20. (This case was previously reported as a positive case on 3/6/20, in an earlier case count.)

Of the 22 deaths reported in King County, 19 are associated with Life Care Center of Kirkland, where at least 55 people have tested positive for the virus.

 

[tourist]

crisis or not, it will be safe to assume that overall college football attendance will be down this fall as a result.

If numbers go down, it is probably due to knee jerk idiot politicians who ban attendance. This virus is less of a threat, to this country, than the political posturing which uses this 'crisis' for partisan political gain. Compare this 'crisis' to a real one a hundred years ago:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/09/health/coronavirus-is-very-different-from-the-spanish-flu-of-1918-heres-how.html

 

[CrunchGriz]

Death rate by age, from a study. Rates probably too high, because the denominator is too low given that many people few or minor symptoms and don't know they have had it. The death rate has gone way done in China, as they learned to deal with the situation. Most of the US deaths are still from the Kirland nursing home and now another nursing home in that area (where 3 have died).

AGE
DEATH RATE
confirmed cases
DEATH RATE
all cases
80+ years old

21.9%
14.8%

70-79 years old
8.0%

60-69 years old
3.6%

50-59 years old
1.3%

40-49 years old
0.4%
30-39 years old

0.2%
20-29 years old

0.2%
10-19 years old


0.2%
0-9 years old

Of the 30 or so US deaths, at least 21 are from nursing homes, mainly 1, in King County WA. See below for the 2 new deaths and note ages and where they were.

"The two new deaths are:

A woman in her 80s, a resident of Issaquah Nursing and Rehabilitation Center, was hospitalized at Swedish Issaquah, and died on 3/8/20. (This case was previously reported as a positive case on 3/7/20, in an earlier case count.)
A male in his 80s, a resident of Ida Culver House, was hospitalized at University of Washington Medical Center, and died on 3/9/20. (This case was previously reported as a positive case on 3/6/20, in an earlier case count.)

Of the 22 deaths reported in King County, 19 are associated with Life Care Center of Kirkland, where at least 55 people have tested positive for the virus.

Come on, PR, what argh replied to you is not abstruse. The young people involved in college athletics appear not to be in grave danger from this virus. No one is arguing that. However, older people are, and young people can be vectors for the disease even if the effects from it are mild in them. As vectors, they can and will pass the disease to people they are in close contact with, including their coaches, teachers, parents, and grandparents. Some significant percentage of these people can be severely hit by it. The science of this is not that hard to understand. Because of the nature of this virus (R0 rate [reproduction rate] around 2.2 [common flu is around 1.3] and previously unknown to humans, thus no human antibodies), there will be a nearly logarithmic rate of infection among the world's population. Closing or limiting large gatherings is just one way to try to limit and/or slow the rate of infection so our health systems won't be overwhelmed, as they are in parts of Italy now. This is not some kind of plot or lack of will or anything of the kind--it is an acknowledgment of the reality of the situation.

 

[PlayerRep]

Death rate by age, from a study. Rates probably too high, because the denominator is too low given that many people few or minor symptoms and don't know they have had it. The death rate has gone way done in China, as they learned to deal with the situation. Most of the US deaths are still from the Kirland nursing home and now another nursing home in that area (where 3 have died).

AGE
DEATH RATE
confirmed cases
DEATH RATE
all cases
80+ years old

21.9%
14.8%

70-79 years old
8.0%

60-69 years old
3.6%

50-59 years old
1.3%

40-49 years old
0.4%
30-39 years old

0.2%
20-29 years old

0.2%
10-19 years old


0.2%
0-9 years old

Of the 30 or so US deaths, at least 21 are from nursing homes, mainly 1, in King County WA. See below for the 2 new deaths and note ages and where they were.

"The two new deaths are:

A woman in her 80s, a resident of Issaquah Nursing and Rehabilitation Center, was hospitalized at Swedish Issaquah, and died on 3/8/20. (This case was previously reported as a positive case on 3/7/20, in an earlier case count.)
A male in his 80s, a resident of Ida Culver House, was hospitalized at University of Washington Medical Center, and died on 3/9/20. (This case was previously reported as a positive case on 3/6/20, in an earlier case count.)

Of the 22 deaths reported in King County, 19 are associated with Life Care Center of Kirkland, where at least 55 people have tested positive for the virus.

Come on, PR, what argh replied to you is not abstruse. The young people involved in college athletics appear not to be in grave danger from this virus. No one is arguing that. However, older people are, and young people can be vectors for the disease even if the effects from it are mild in them. As vectors, they can and will pass the disease to people they are in close contact with, including their coaches, teachers, parents, and grandparents. Some significant percentage of these people can be severely hit by it. The science of this is not that hard to understand. Because of the nature of this virus (R0 rate [reproduction rate] around 2.2 [common flu is around 1.3] and previously unknown to humans, thus no human antibodies), there will be a nearly logarithmic rate of infection among the world's population. Closing or limiting large gatherings is just one way to try to limit and/or slow the rate of infection so our health systems won't be overwhelmed, as they are in parts of Italy now. This is not some kind of plot or lack of will or anything of the kind--it is an acknowledgment of the reality of the situation.

Much of what argh says, and usually posts, is written like a third grader and is neither clear nor understandable.

 

[PlayerRep]

Death rate by age, from a study. Rates probably too high, because the denominator is too low given that many people few or minor symptoms and don't know they have had it. The death rate has gone way done in China, as they learned to deal with the situation. Most of the US deaths are still from the Kirland nursing home and now another nursing home in that area (where 3 have died).

AGE
DEATH RATE
confirmed cases
DEATH RATE
all cases
80+ years old

21.9%
14.8%

70-79 years old
8.0%

60-69 years old
3.6%

50-59 years old
1.3%

40-49 years old
0.4%
30-39 years old

0.2%
20-29 years old

0.2%
10-19 years old


0.2%
0-9 years old

Of the 30 or so US deaths, at least 21 are from nursing homes, mainly 1, in King County WA. See below for the 2 new deaths and note ages and where they were.

"The two new deaths are:

A woman in her 80s, a resident of Issaquah Nursing and Rehabilitation Center, was hospitalized at Swedish Issaquah, and died on 3/8/20. (This case was previously reported as a positive case on 3/7/20, in an earlier case count.)
A male in his 80s, a resident of Ida Culver House, was hospitalized at University of Washington Medical Center, and died on 3/9/20. (This case was previously reported as a positive case on 3/6/20, in an earlier case count.)

Of the 22 deaths reported in King County, 19 are associated with Life Care Center of Kirkland, where at least 55 people have tested positive for the virus.

Come on, PR, what argh replied to you is not abstruse. The young people involved in college athletics appear not to be in grave danger from this virus. No one is arguing that. However, older people are, and young people can be vectors for the disease even if the effects from it are mild in them. As vectors, they can and will pass the disease to people they are in close contact with, including their coaches, teachers, parents, and grandparents. Some significant percentage of these people can be severely hit by it. The science of this is not that hard to understand. Because of the nature of this virus (R0 rate [reproduction rate] around 2.2 [common flu is around 1.3] and previously unknown to humans, thus no human antibodies), there will be a nearly logarithmic rate of infection among the world's population. Closing or limiting large gatherings is just one way to try to limit and/or slow the rate of infection so our health systems won't be overwhelmed, as they are in parts of Italy now. This is not some kind of plot or lack of will or anything of the kind--it is an acknowledgment of the reality of the situation.

What does what you said have to do with college teams playing spring ball?

Coaches aren't old people. If they don't want to coach or travel, they don't have to. Grandparents generally don't come to spring ball, but those few that do can always decide not to do that this year.

The US, work and life can't just shut down. That wouldn't be tolerated in the US, and it would wreck the economy. I'm all for taking some precautions, but going overboard, will cause more harm than good. People can't survive without goods and income.

Older and at-risk people can take precautions. That doesn't have to include shutting lives of the rest of us and the US and world economy.

If older and at-risk people take precautions, or just stay around home, few people are going to die. Because the rate of death is very low in people under 50.

On Sunday, the US Surgeon General said that no one under 50 had died in Japan.

In the last 10 years, the average number of people who died from the flu in the US was 61,000 per year. Here's another number: "The CDC estimates that as many as 56,000 people die from the flu or flu-like illness each year." Is the media or anyone flipping out over lots of people dying from the flu. Should everyone stay home to avoid getting the flu?

"the CDC has estimated (based on weekly influenza surveillance data) that at least 12,000 people have died from influenza between Oct. 1, 2019 through Feb. 1, 2020,"

Virtually ever death in the US so far from the virus has come from one, and now several, nursing homes in Seattle. I'm sorry, but spring football practice had nothing to do with those deaths.

In the US, the infection rate is 3.4 per million. Of the 1,063 active case in the US now, 10 are in serious condition. Only 10.

Someone needs to have some perspective.

 

[retiredpopo]

heard today from CDC that death rate is actually less than 1%. Liberal media will spin this to make it look like the zombie apocalypse is upon us. Pretty soon they will be reporting a shortage of toilet paper oh wait that was last week.

Why don't they ever report on the recovery rate? Oh because that does not look dismal at all.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Some joker posted on the BBall Forum that the NCAA released a statement saying only essential staff and limited family are going to be allowed to attend NCAAT games.

 

[grizindabox]

Some joker posted on the BBall Forum that the NCAA released a statement saying only essential staff and limited family are going to be allowed to attend NCAAT games.

Smart Joker.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Some joker posted on the BBall Forum that the NCAA released a statement saying only essential staff and limited family are going to be allowed to attend NCAAT games.

Smart Joker.

Meh, all he cares about is how well he hits the driver in skins tomorrow afternoon. Kind of a simpleton, really.

 

[CrunchGriz]

Even if it's only 1 percent, that's ten times more deadly than common flu. That's a lot of dead people and a lot of people who will need to be medically treated. Do everything you can to slow/limit the spread of the disease. If you don't, at best you're irresponsible.

 

[retiredpopo]

Even if it's only 1 percent, that's ten times more deadly than common flu. That's a lot of dead people and a lot of people who will need to be medically treated. Do everything you can to slow/limit the spread of the disease. If you don't, at best you're irresponsible.

Influenza seems to be less picky age group wise where corona is just going after the older people.

 

[PlayerRep]

Even if it's only 1 percent, that's ten times more deadly than common flu. That's a lot of dead people and a lot of people who will need to be medically treated. Do everything you can to slow/limit the spread of the disease. If you don't, at best you're irresponsible.

61,000 people a year die from the flu. No one blinks. 31 so far in US from the covid 19.

Measures have already been taken to slow the virus. Like,cutting off flights from china. Warning people not to go to certain countries. Washing hands. Being careful.

Life does not have to stop, and we don't need a world depression, to slow this one. The warm weather will pretty much stop it anyway.

Alarmist types like you are the irresponsible ones.

 

[retiredpopo]

So imagine a home griz game with only family present. Really any sporting event that is used to loud crowds would be pretty eerie.

 

[retiredpopo]

Even if it's only 1 percent, that's ten times more deadly than common flu. That's a lot of dead people and a lot of people who will need to be medically treated. Do everything you can to slow/limit the spread of the disease. If you don't, at best you're irresponsible.

61,000 people a year die from the flu. No one blinks. 31 so far in US from the covid 19.

Measures have already been taken to slow the virus. Like,cutting off flights from china. Warning people not to go to certain countries. Washing hands. Being careful.

Life does not have to stop, and we don't need a world depression, to slow this one. The warm weather will pretty much stop it anyway.

Alarmist types like you are the irresponsible ones.

exactly. How many in auto crashes? of those 31 almost all old and sick people who have a high mortality rate any way. Hell most from the same facility maybe there is a serial killer in the midst.

Again why no mention of the recovery rate? probably would stop the alarm and why on earth would the liberal media want that to happen.

 

[retiredpopo]

2018-2019 influenza season saw in the 65+ age group a bit over 3,000,000 people have the symptoms and about 1,721,007 seek medical help and of those 279,384 were hospitalized and of those 25,555 died. Not much wide spread panic over that.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

So imagine a home griz game with only family present. Really any sporting event that is used to loud crowds would be pretty eerie.

Imagine the Final Four of the NCAAT at MB Stadium in Atlanta with only family present. I guess we won't have to imagine within a month's time. Should be able to hear everything said on the court.

 

[retiredpopo]

So imagine a home griz game with only family present. Really any sporting event that is used to loud crowds would be pretty eerie.

Imagine the Final Four of the NCAAT at MB Stadium in Atlanta with only family present. I guess we won't have to imagine within a month's time. Should be able to hear everything said on the court.

Be wild to say the least. Maybe the will just need to id at the gates. No one over 65yoa allowed.