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Is the 2023 Football Season Make-Or-Break For Bobby???

uofmman1122 said:
BillingsMafia said:
If the offense changes to more short passes and screen plays and less RPO QB as a battering ram I will support Bobby for two maybe three more years even if no success. But if Bobby ball rears its ugly head my attacks will be fierce and met with the full wrath of the Bobby lovers on this forum.
Even if Bobby Ball starts winning again?

I dont believe the team can be a national champion contender running Bobby ball. Its not possible to recruit the offensive line talent needed to get to that level. Look at the talent Bobby had in his first stint. But if I'm wrong and the team makes the semi finals/ finals running Bobby ball I won't criticize. Your question was a good one.
 
BillingsMafia said:
uofmman1122 said:
Even if Bobby Ball starts winning again?

I dont believe the team can be a national champion contender running Bobby ball. Its not possible to recruit the offensive line talent needed to get to that level. Look at the talent Bobby had in his first stint. But if I'm wrong and the team makes the semi finals/ finals running Bobby ball I won't criticize. Your question was a good one.
I think if we ran something similar to what SDSU does, we have a shot. Their offense was very creative the last few years.
 
BillingsMafia said:
uofmman1122 said:
Even if Bobby Ball starts winning again?

I dont believe the team can be a national champion contender running Bobby ball. Its not possible to recruit the offensive line talent needed to get to that level. Look at the talent Bobby had in his first stint. But if I'm wrong and the team makes the semi finals/ finals running Bobby ball I won't criticize. Your question was a good one.
You're assuming Bobby Ball is stagnant and not evolving. I think that's a bad assumption. There is a reason for the assistant coaching changes.
 
In the same way that I wish I weighed now what I did when I was 20 and I thought I was "fat", I wish for the Griz to be as "bad" now as many fans said we were when we were national runners up (and not winning the title) during Bobby's first go around. Can Bobby get us back there again? Everything is possible, but using my weight analogy as a predictor - it's not looking good.
 
In answer to the question, NO!

Does the team need to improve, YES!

Will they, - ONLY TIME WILL TELL!

BUT I BELIEVE!!
 
mthoopsfan said:
What is Bobby ball?

On a positive side of "bobby ball", imo, his team's play with more heart than any other team in the FCS.
Also, bobby ball is all about being on the good side of the turnover Stat.

On the negative side, some detractors say bobby ball is playing not to lose.

Still, at the level the Griz are, is there a better coach willing to take the job? I know of none.
 
mthoopsfan said:
What is Bobby ball?

Bobby ball defined. Out physical your opponent. No finesse just out physical them. Pound the ball into line time and time again even if no success. Pass only in predictable situations and then only to a receiver everyone knows will be targeted. Football is physical no finesse, no imagination allowed. Bobby ball under phenicie, under Rosie its pretty much the same with a few different twists. I guess many here do not watch Griz football, I do,

You all got questions, I can enlighten you.
 
gotgame75 said:
Raider said:
Can I make an honest suggestion man? Not trying to be a dick, this is sincere.

At this late stage in your life, perhaps you should find something fulfilling other than Griz football. How much time have you squandered over the years doing this? Whether or not you have valid points is frankly irrelevant.

The Griz program of the mid 90’s and 2000’s is gone. It is over. It is never coming back. Just accept it and move on with your life. You are going to have someone reading your eulogy with a bulk of it being your trials and tribulations of Griz message boards.

The fact that some griz fans believe that we need to "accept" simply being above average is beyond aggravating. Sorry not sorry for holding this program to a higher standard. This little brother mentality is a disease that's infected our fan base into believing that we cannot do better than what we've already got. That's the psychology of losers.

Your post is spot-on. I used to read the Bobcat board for fun back in the days when we beat them every year. Guess what, posters over there back in the day were saying the same things 90% of you are saying about the Griz today. They accepted that the Cats were second in the state to the Griz. Most had blind faith that they could finally surpass the Griz the next season. Of course, it never happened for many many years.

But make no mistake about it, they HAVE surpassed us, and it is nauseating how our fan base now accepts our fate, and even more nauseating that so many of you believe that Bobby Hauck will ever be able to surpass what is happening in Bozeman. And you call yourselves "good fans"!
 
Spanky2 said:
Most of us are happy with Bobby no matter what you would like to call his offense.

Little Brother Syndrome...... Originated in Bozeman, Montana in the 1990s, and spread slowly Westward. Now extinct in Bozeman, but insidious in the Western part of Montana.
 
thirdandlong said:
Spanky2 said:
Most of us are happy with Bobby no matter what you would like to call his offense.

Little Brother Syndrome...... Originated in Bozeman, Montana in the 1990s, and spread slowly Westward. Now extinct in Bozeman, but insidious in the Western part of Montana.

Oh great to see you are back with another user ID. Mr. Glass Half Full has arrived. Please, you sycophants who cower to MSU make me sick. They got their rear handed to them two years in a row when the going got tough. The Griz have struggled since the mess that JJ got into. It has taken years to dig out of the hole that created. Years of bad decision making and finally the Griz are starting to turn the corner. You pessimists keep cowering. Things are going well and will only get better at the U of M.
 
Bobby put in a Don Read trained offensive coordinator. I saw some glimpses in the spring game. Bobby is a overall decent head coach but doesn't understand offense. If he allows Pease to control the offense the sky is the limit. Give it a few years before calling for his head. His assistant coaching changes speak volumes.
 
kemajic said:
BillingsMafia said:
I dont believe the team can be a national champion contender running Bobby ball. Its not possible to recruit the offensive line talent needed to get to that level. Look at the talent Bobby had in his first stint. But if I'm wrong and the team makes the semi finals/ finals running Bobby ball I won't criticize. Your question was a good one.
You're assuming Bobby Ball is stagnant and not evolving. I think that's a bad assumption. There is a reason for the assistant coaching changes.

"Changes" :roll: How is rearranging the same pieces that got lackluster results "evolving"?

When has Bobby ever shown an ability to be flexible, let alone change? His steadfastness is what many Griz fans love about him. Seems like wishful thinking at best.
 
BillingsMafia said:
Bobby put in a Don Read trained offensive coordinator. I saw some glimpses in the spring game. Bobby is a overall decent head coach but doesn't understand offense. If he allows Pease to control the offense the sky is the limit. Give it a few years before calling for his head. His assistant coaching changes speak volumes.

Give it a few years???? So now Bobby needs almost a decade to get his pieces in place?! This is both absurd and sad.

Point blank, no coach not named Jesus H. Hauck would be given this kind of leash.
 
gotgame75 said:
BillingsMafia said:
Bobby put in a Don Read trained offensive coordinator. I saw some glimpses in the spring game. Bobby is a overall decent head coach but doesn't understand offense. If he allows Pease to control the offense the sky is the limit. Give it a few years before calling for his head. His assistant coaching changes speak volumes.

Give it a few years???? So now Bobby needs almost a decade to get his pieces in place?! This is both absurd and sad.

Point blank, no coach not named Jesus H. Hauck would be given this kind of leash.
For consistently fielding a winning team that fill the stadium. Got it.
 
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