Is it surprising to you that UM can’t beat top 5 teams on road without it’s starting qb?

[mthoopsfan]

Stitt's teams had declined to not being in the top 30. Get back to me if UM is not in the top 30 this year.

Stitt’s problem was his defense. It was beyond terrible. He was told to get a new DC and refused. So he was shit canned. The same thing should happen here.

UM is lucky to have Hauck and his coaching staff.

 

[AZGrizFan]

This team is EXACTLY where Stitt would have had it. 5-3, but under .500 in conference. Beating up on cupcakes….losing against any team with a pulse. Racking up massive yards against cupcakes…unable to generate even a semblance of an offense against any defense remotely above average.

No, it isn't. UM will not be ranked out of the top 30 this week, or at the end of the season. Stitt lost to some cupcakes. Still never had to play 2 top 5 teams in the conference. Stitt was never hired as a coach, as opposed to analyst, after he left UM. You people with narratives drive me nuts. You're like politicians. Try being objective. And positive occasionally.

Is “top 30” now the measuring stick?

Oh, how the expectations of Griz fans have fallen.

 

[mthoopsfan]

No, it isn't. UM will not be ranked out of the top 30 this week, or at the end of the season. Stitt lost to some cupcakes. Still never had to play 2 top 5 teams in the conference. Stitt was never hired as a coach, as opposed to analyst, after he left UM. You people with narratives drive me nuts. You're like politicians. Try being objective. And positive occasionally.

Is “top 30” now the measuring stick?

Oh, how the expectations of Griz fans have fallen.

No, it's not at all, but you are the one comparing Hauck to Stitt. Stitt's teams were out of the top 30. Think before you post.

 

[hubcap]

Stitt’s problem was his defense. It was beyond terrible. He was told to get a new DC and refused. So he was shit canned. The same thing should happen here.

UM is lucky to have Hauck and his coaching staff.

Put the crack pipe down PR. Good Lord.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Is “top 30” now the measuring stick?

Oh, how the expectations of Griz fans have fallen.

No, it's not at all, but you are the one comparing Hauck to Stitt. Stitt's teams were out of the top 30. Think before you post.

You were the one who keeps bringing up “top 30”.

And talk about lack of objectivity. To watch the last three games and keep insisting that UM is “lucky to have” Hauck and co….you are the definition of a koolaid drinker. :roll:

 

[mthoopsfan]

No, it's not at all, but you are the one comparing Hauck to Stitt. Stitt's teams were out of the top 30. Think before you post.

You were the one who keeps bringing up “top 30”.

And talk about lack of objectivity. To watch the last three games and keep insisting that UM is “lucky to have” Hauck and co….you are the definition of a koolaid drinker. :roll:

You are the one comparing Hauck to Stitt. There is no comparison. I know UM is lucky to have Hauck and the coaches. Virtually every knowledge fan at UM agrees. Hauck brought UM back to top 8 in year 2. Very fast. Faster than was expected.

 

[PDXGrizzly]

Yes. It is surprising to me that the Griz cannot beat top five teams on the road with a backup quarterback. I am not one of those delusional fans that think we are going to go undefeated every year. We are going to lose games. We are going to lose games to top rank teams. But, if you want to be the best you better figure out a way to beat the best. Our defense absolutely played well enough to win both of these games. Our offense is losing them for us because I don’t believe we are putting our best players in positions to make plays or adjusting our offense to the personnel on the field.

Why can't you just answer the question that was asked? Is your narrative just too big for you to even be honest?

He did answer your question. First two sentences. He is also correct in his assessment. If Montana want to be a championship caliber team, they need to figure out how to win in adverse situations. The offensive output these past weeks has been abysmal. Should there be some drop-off when a starter is out? Yes! But that STEEP of one? That’s a problem. A big one. It goes to recruiting, scheme, and all the coach-y things that go into executing when a starter goes down. Lots of other teams can handle this. Why not Montana?

 

[mthoopsfan]

UM is lucky to have Hauck and his coaching staff.

Put the crack pipe down PR. Good Lord.

You are the biased one. You are all mad because your guy Britt isn't getting close to the field. I don't believe any opinion of your, because of that.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I think it is Bobby, Bobby believes that with a good defense and special teams, just as long as the backup doesn't make mistakes and turn the ball over, he can win games. I am not sure the last two weeks have changed his mind, because they had chances to beat top 5 teams on the road, even with the worst offense in the BSC. For things to be different, Bobby has to shift his philosophy.

But the exact same thing has happened in both games. That good defense wears down when the offense is inept, and in the 4th quarter we lose games we have led most/all the game. We went into the 4th quarter AT Sac up 24-10. They scored 21 straight. We led Weber 10-7 and 13-10. Lost 24-21. Weber had the ball TWELVE minutes in the 4th quarter because our defense couldnt’ get off the field. His strategy would appear to work if games were 45 minutes long. Sadly, they’re not.

In theory, I understand what he is trying to accomplish, but he needs some production from the offense, and that hasn't happened the last 2 weeks.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Why can't you just answer the question that was asked? Is your narrative just too big for you to even be honest?

He did answer your question. First two sentences. He is also correct in his assessment. If Montana want to be a championship caliber team, they need to figure out how to win in adverse situations. The offensive output these past weeks has been abysmal. Should there be some drop-off when a starter is out? Yes! But that STEEP of one? That’s a problem. A big one. It goes to recruiting, scheme, and all the coach-y things that go into executing when a starter goes down. Lots of other teams can handle this. Why not Montana?

No, he didn't answer my question. I didn't ask about a backup qb. I asked about not having our starting qb. Some of what the rest of what you said is fine. The season is not over. Have you given up on the season?

 

[AZGrizFan]

You were the one who keeps bringing up “top 30”.

And talk about lack of objectivity. To watch the last three games and keep insisting that UM is “lucky to have” Hauck and co….you are the definition of a koolaid drinker. :roll:

You are the one comparing Hauck to Stitt. There is no comparison. I know UM is lucky to have Hauck and the coaches. Virtually every knowledge fan at UM agrees. Hauck brought UM back to top 8 in year 2. Very fast. Faster than was expected.

:lol: :lol:

There isn’t another coach/staff in America that would still be on payroll with the way this team has performed/recruited. They’re the Texas Tech of the BSC. if you are happy with where this team is at, settle in for years of averageness. If you’re happy with 8-4, 9-3 every year, then you REALLY ought to be a move up proponent because that gets gets you bowl games, not national championships.

But hey! Top 8! Yay!

 

[AZGrizFan]

But the exact same thing has happened in both games. That good defense wears down when the offense is inept, and in the 4th quarter we lose games we have led most/all the game. We went into the 4th quarter AT Sac up 24-10. They scored 21 straight. We led Weber 10-7 and 13-10. Lost 24-21. Weber had the ball TWELVE minutes in the 4th quarter because our defense couldnt’ get off the field. His strategy would appear to work if games were 45 minutes long. Sadly, they’re not.

In theory, I understand what he is trying to accomplish, but he needs some production from the offense, and that hasn't happened the last 2 weeks.

I understand as well. But it should have been clear after the Sac game that what he WANTED and what he was going to get, were two VASTLY different things. Again, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

But hey, we’ll beat Cal Poly, and then we’ll beat EWU (who looks like they’re just ready for the season to be over), and then we’ll go into Bozeman with a weak pulse and think we have a shot.

 

[mthoopsfan]

You are the one comparing Hauck to Stitt. There is no comparison. I know UM is lucky to have Hauck and the coaches. Virtually every knowledge fan at UM agrees. Hauck brought UM back to top 8 in year 2. Very fast. Faster than was expected.

:lol: :lol:

There isn’t another coach/staff in America that would still be on payroll with the way this team has performed/recruited. They’re the Texas Tech of the BSC. if you are happy with where this team is at, settle in for years of averageness. If you’re happy with 8-4, 9-3 every year, then you REALLY ought to be a move up proponent because that gets gets you bowl games, not national championships.

But hey! Top 8! Yay!

Not true. Not even close. If you don't think Hauck and his coaches are a good staff, then I have nothing to say. The season isn't over. The team isn't average. The team is good, just as Hauck said yesterday. No one including the team or coaches is happy where the Griz are now in terms of record. With advice like yours, UM would be back out of the top 30.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

In theory, I understand what he is trying to accomplish, but he needs some production from the offense, and that hasn't happened the last 2 weeks.

I understand as well. But it should have been clear after the Sac game that what he WANTED and what he was going to get, were two VASTLY different things. Again, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

But hey, we’ll beat Cal Poly, and then we’ll beat EWU (who looks like they’re just ready for the season to be over), and then we’ll go into Bozeman with a weak pulse and think we have a shot.

I think it boils down to they had more confidence in Brown not making mistakes and generating a little offense than Britt and his decision making and ball security.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

That really is surprising. I know it’s not true, but it really does sometimes feel like the staff is focused on being “right” more than anything. What was Stitt’s record when he got canned after Y3? (<— I didn’t say that, I didn’t say that, I said it, but I didn’t mean it. I’m sorry).

Stitt's teams had declined to not being in the top 30. Get back to me if UM is not in the top 30 this year.

I hope they will be in the top 30. Offense looks really bad right now.

 

[mthoopsfan]

I understand as well. But it should have been clear after the Sac game that what he WANTED and what he was going to get, were two VASTLY different things. Again, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

But hey, we’ll beat Cal Poly, and then we’ll beat EWU (who looks like they’re just ready for the season to be over), and then we’ll go into Bozeman with a weak pulse and think we have a shot.

I think it boils down to they had more confidence in Brown not making mistakes and generating a little offense than Britt and his decision making and ball security.

I agree. Plus Brown practiced a lot in pre-season and during the season, and played some during the season.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Stitt's teams had declined to not being in the top 30. Get back to me if UM is not in the top 30 this year.

I hope they will be in the top 30. Offense looks really bad right now.

UM needs Johnson to thrive. At this point, I don't know why it's so hard for some people to admit that. They just want to bash the coaches, or some players, and, for the most part, don't know what they are talking about, in my view.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I hope they will be in the top 30. Offense looks really bad right now.

UM needs Johnson to thrive. At this point, I don't know why it's so hard for some people to admit that. They just want to bash the coaches, or some players, and, for the most part, don't know what they are talking about, in my view.

Everyone HAS admitted that. Repeatedly. I made that very statement before the season even started that if we lose Johnson we’re fucked.

The point YOU keep missing, is OTHER teams seem to do ok/fine with their 2nd (and sometimes 3rd) string QB running the offense. Many BSC teams routinely run 2 QB’s out there, very successfully. The Griz, on the other hand, if we lose our top QB we come to a screeching halt, the D gets exhausted and we lose. Like clockwork.

 

[Griz2k]

Yes. It is surprising to me that the Griz cannot beat top five teams on the road with a backup quarterback. I am not one of those delusional fans that think we are going to go undefeated every year. We are going to lose games. We are going to lose games to top rank teams. But, if you want to be the best you better figure out a way to beat the best. Our defense absolutely played well enough to win both of these games. Our offense is losing them for us because I don’t believe we are putting our best players in positions to make plays or adjusting our offense to the personnel on the field.

Why can't you just answer the question that was asked? Is your narrative just too big for you to even be honest?

Not sure how you missed the very first word of my post.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Why can't you just answer the question that was asked? Is your narrative just too big for you to even be honest?

Not sure how you missed the very first word of my post.

Because you talked about “the backup QB” and not “without the starting QB”. :lol:

Semantics, yes, but it’s all he has to hang his hat on.