Is it surprising to you that UM can’t beat top 5 teams on road without it’s starting qb?

[PDXGrizzly]

He did answer your question. First two sentences. He is also correct in his assessment. If Montana want to be a championship caliber team, they need to figure out how to win in adverse situations. The offensive output these past weeks has been abysmal. Should there be some drop-off when a starter is out? Yes! But that STEEP of one? That’s a problem. A big one. It goes to recruiting, scheme, and all the coach-y things that go into executing when a starter goes down. Lots of other teams can handle this. Why not Montana?

No, he didn't answer my question. I didn't ask about a backup qb. I asked about not having our starting qb. Some of what the rest of what you said is fine. The season is not over. Have you given up on the season?

It’s implied. Utilizing a back up means that you don’t have your starter. All teams struggle without the starter, but good ones adjust. Montana has not. I don’t give up on the players. The coaching staff… I’m losing confidence in them. Especially the offensive staff.

 

[mthoopsfan]

No, he didn't answer my question. I didn't ask about a backup qb. I asked about not having our starting qb. Some of what the rest of what you said is fine. The season is not over. Have you given up on the season?

It’s implied. Utilizing a back up means that you don’t have your starter. All teams struggle without the starter, but good ones adjust. Montana has not. I don’t give up on the players. The coaching staff… I’m losing confidence in them. Especially the offensive staff.

I was looking for a direct answer. Not implications.

 

[Griz2k]

It’s implied. Utilizing a back up means that you don’t have your starter. All teams struggle without the starter, but good ones adjust. Montana has not. I don’t give up on the players. The coaching staff… I’m losing confidence in them. Especially the offensive staff.

I was looking for a direct answer. Not implications.

I’m sitting here trying to think of a response but I just can’t come up with anything. Am I the one on crack by not understanding this question? No starter = backup. What am I missing here?

 

[Griz2k]

Not sure how you missed the very first word of my post.

Because you talked about “the backup QB” and not “without the starting QB”. :lol:

Semantics, yes, but it’s all he has to hang his hat on.

I think I’m getting dumber just reading all of this. And I didn’t think that was possible.

 

[SoldierGriz]

You were the one who keeps bringing up “top 30”.

And talk about lack of objectivity. To watch the last three games and keep insisting that UM is “lucky to have” Hauck and co….you are the definition of a koolaid drinker. :roll:

You are the one comparing Hauck to Stitt. There is no comparison. I know UM is lucky to have Hauck and the coaches. Virtually every knowledge fan at UM agrees. Hauck brought UM back to top 8 in year 2. Very fast. Faster than was expected.

No, they don't. Knowledgeable fans know there are significant issues with some coaches, and are watching BH closely to see what he does about it. It will be telling.

Hauck did more with Stitt's recruits than he has done with his own...top 8 year 2...top ? year 5...

 

[Spanky2]

You are the one comparing Hauck to Stitt. There is no comparison. I know UM is lucky to have Hauck and the coaches. Virtually every knowledge fan at UM agrees. Hauck brought UM back to top 8 in year 2. Very fast. Faster than was expected.

No, they don't. Knowledgeable fans know there are significant issues with some coaches, and are watching BH closely to see what he does about it. It will be telling.

Hauck did more with Stitt's recruits than he has done with his own...top 8 year 2...top ? year 5...

I also believe we are fortunate to have Bobby as our coach. I don’t agree with every one of his decisions, but to compare him to Bob Stitt is ridiculous.

 

[SoldierGriz]

No, they don't. Knowledgeable fans know there are significant issues with some coaches, and are watching BH closely to see what he does about it. It will be telling.

Hauck did more with Stitt's recruits than he has done with his own...top 8 year 2...top ? year 5...

I also believe we are fortunate to have Bobby as our coach. I don’t agree with every one of his decisions, but to compare him to Bob Stitt is ridiculous.

Who is comparing them? Certainly not me...

 

[mthoopsfan]

You are the one comparing Hauck to Stitt. There is no comparison. I know UM is lucky to have Hauck and the coaches. Virtually every knowledge fan at UM agrees. Hauck brought UM back to top 8 in year 2. Very fast. Faster than was expected.

No, they don't. Knowledgeable fans know there are significant issues with some coaches, and are watching BH closely to see what he does about it. It will be telling.

Hauck did more with Stitt's recruits than he has done with his own...top 8 year 2...top ? year 5...

Who? I am not aware of any fans posting regular on egriz who are knowledgeable enough to evaluate the offense, the offensive scheme, and the play-calling. Certainly not you or me.

 

[SoldierGriz]

No, they don't. Knowledgeable fans know there are significant issues with some coaches, and are watching BH closely to see what he does about it. It will be telling.

Hauck did more with Stitt's recruits than he has done with his own...top 8 year 2...top ? year 5...

Who? I am not aware of any fans posting regular on egriz who are knowledgeable enough to evaluate the offense, the offensive scheme, and the play-calling. Certainly not you or me.

You are partially correct. You are not knowledgeable.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Who? I am not aware of any fans posting regular on egriz who are knowledgeable enough to evaluate the offense, the offensive scheme, and the play-calling. Certainly not you or me.

You are partially correct. You are not knowledgeable.

I am way more knowledgeable and way more plugged in than you. You are a joke. Nothing you say can be relied on.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Of course. A question that avoids the actual issue.

Of course, you can’t-won’t answer, because you have a different narrative. A question is a question. It doesn’t avoid anything.

I think it’s surprising how we lost. Disappointing. We had wins in front of us. But the complete negligence by our OC cost us two wins on the road against top 5 teams. If we have any decent offense the last two weeks we’re 7-1 with two monster wins.

It’s not who we lost to. It’s how we lost.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Of course, you can’t-won’t answer, because you have a different narrative. A question is a question. It doesn’t avoid anything.

I think it’s surprising how we lost. Disappointing. We had wins in front of us. But the complete negligence by our OC cost us two wins on the road against top 5 teams. If we have any decent offense the last two weeks we’re 7-1 with two monster wins.

It’s not who we lost to. It’s how we lost.

If we have our starting qb, we win fairly easily.

 

[Griz2k]

Of course, you can’t-won’t answer, because you have a different narrative. A question is a question. It doesn’t avoid anything.

I think it’s surprising how we lost. Disappointing. We had wins in front of us. But the complete negligence by our OC cost us two wins on the road against top 5 teams. If we have any decent offense the last two weeks we’re 7-1 with two monster wins.

It’s not who we lost to. It’s how we lost.

You didn't answer the question. You're out.

 

[PDXGrizzly]

I think it’s surprising how we lost. Disappointing. We had wins in front of us. But the complete negligence by our OC cost us two wins on the road against top 5 teams. If we have any decent offense the last two weeks we’re 7-1 with two monster wins.

It’s not who we lost to. It’s how we lost.

If we have our starting qb, we win fairly easily.

I’m not sure about “easily” but otherwise I agree. LJ gives the Griz the best chance to win. Literally nobody is disputing this. I’m not sure what you are after. A definitive statement? Ok.

With the starter, Lucas Johnson, the Griz are a completely different team on offense. They likely win the last two games. Not sure about “easily” but they win. What we are so upset about is how completely lost and inept the offense looks without him. The drop-off is so extreme that it appears no effort was made to either plan for his loss or develop any reasonable depth. This should not be the catastrophe that it is. Yet here we are.

Good enough?

 

[SoldierGriz]

You are partially correct. You are not knowledgeable.

I am way more knowledgeable and way more plugged in than you. You are a joke. Nothing you say can be relied on.

Nice try...posters here stopped listening to you long ago. You are the single worst poster on this board. Few are more plugged in than me...

 

[AZGrizFan]

I think it’s surprising how we lost. Disappointing. We had wins in front of us. But the complete negligence by our OC cost us two wins on the road against top 5 teams. If we have any decent offense the last two weeks we’re 7-1 with two monster wins.

It’s not who we lost to. It’s how we lost.

If we have our starting qb, we win fairly easily.

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts….

 

[IdahoGrizFan]

I understand as well. But it should have been clear after the Sac game that what he WANTED and what he was going to get, were two VASTLY different things. Again, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

But hey, we’ll beat Cal Poly, and then we’ll beat EWU (who looks like they’re just ready for the season to be over), and then we’ll go into Bozeman with a weak pulse and think we have a shot.

I think it boils down to they had more confidence in Brown not making mistakes and generating a little offense than Britt and his decision making and ball security.

Been reading through the discussion with interest in how everyone else is feeling about the last two games. I keep hearing that Britt is a wild card and he somehow scares the coaches. I also read he was something like the practice squad MVP. Then I read comments like “ Britt and his decision making and ball security” not being good. Correct me if I am wrong but I have only seen him in one game for mop up and I though did surprisingly well. Completed passes, moved well in the pocket and scrambled well. And that was it. Nothing but Brown after that. He must practice horribly to get that reputation and yet be a super player on the practice squad. So I am a bit confused about the information about Britt that is being thrown around.

 

[kemajic]

I think it boils down to they had more confidence in Brown not making mistakes and generating a little offense than Britt and his decision making and ball security.

Been reading through the discussion with interest in how everyone else is feeling about the last two games. I keep hearing that Britt is a wild card and he somehow scares the coaches. I also read he was something like the practice squad MVP. Then I read comments like “ Britt and his decision making and ball security” not being good. Correct me if I am wrong but I have only seen him in one game for mop up and I though did surprisingly well. Completed passes, moved well in the pocket and scrambled well. And that was it. Nothing but Brown after that. He must practice horribly to get that reputation and yet be a super player on the practice squad. So I am a bit confused about the information about Britt that is being thrown around.

Maybe they like that Brown plays to not lose (or throw ints) while Britt would play to win and be way too aggressive for their comfort factor. It also seems BH is very hierarchal, with Brown a year ahead of Britt. So you get 114 yards and an L.

 

[IdahoGrizFan]

So it is said, if it isn’t broken then don’t fix it. But if it isn’t working maybe just maybe try something different. You will never know if it is a bad decision unless you try it. I don’t think Britt in anyway is a bad decision.

So know one knows of a player who can speak into this, if Britt is just a waste of time?

 

[mthoopsfan]

I was looking for a direct answer. Not implications.

I’m sitting here trying to think of a response but I just can’t come up with anything. Am I the one on crack by not understanding this question? No starter = backup. What am I missing here?

My question, just an initial question, focused on the starting qb we are missing, not the backup or backups who will ror may replace him. After answering the first question, that could lead to other others. But my question was the one I asked. Some of you answer questions like some women do. "My question: What time is it honey? Answer: you know we have to be at the event at 6?" I asked the question because I want to know what time it is. I already know that we have to be an at event at 6. By answering a different or irrelevant question, I haven't learned what I wanted to know. By being trained as a lawyer, at a good law school (Stanford), I learned how to be logical, methodical, and thorough.