Is it surprising to you that UM can’t beat top 5 teams on road without it’s starting qb?

[Griz2k]

I’m sitting here trying to think of a response but I just can’t come up with anything. Am I the one on crack by not understanding this question? No starter = backup. What am I missing here?

My question, just an initial question, focused on the starting qb we are missing, not the backup or backups who will ror may replace him. After answering the first question, that could lead to other others. But my question was the one I asked. Some of you answer questions like some women do. "My question: What time is it honey? Answer: you know we have to be at the event at 6?" I asked the question because I want to know what time it is. I already know that we have to be an at event at 6. By answering a different or irrelevant question, I haven't learned what I wanted to know. By being trained as a lawyer, at a good law school (Stanford), I learned how to be logical, methodical, and thorough.

Bit of a weird analogy, but whatever. So to answer your question (which I already did) but now without any commentary whatsoever....

Yes

 

[AZGrizFan]

I’m sitting here trying to think of a response but I just can’t come up with anything. Am I the one on crack by not understanding this question? No starter = backup. What am I missing here?

My question, just an initial question, focused on the starting qb we are missing, not the backup or backups who will ror may replace him. After answering the first question, that could lead to other others. But my question was the one I asked. Some of you answer questions like some women do. "My question: What time is it honey? Answer: you know we have to be at the event at 6?" I asked the question because I want to know what time it is. I already know that we have to be an at event at 6. By answering a different or irrelevant question, I haven't learned what I wanted to know. By being trained as a lawyer, at a good law school (Stanford), I learned how to be logical, methodical, and thorough.

He answered your question in one word. “Yes”. In other words, “yes, he found it surprising that UM can’t beat top 5 teams on the road without its starting QB”. he then added some additional context which apparently caused you to miss the fact that he answered your question in the very first word. So much for logical, methodical and thorough.

 

[mthoopsfan]

My question, just an initial question, focused on the starting qb we are missing, not the backup or backups who will ror may replace him. After answering the first question, that could lead to other others. But my question was the one I asked. Some of you answer questions like some women do. "My question: What time is it honey? Answer: you know we have to be at the event at 6?" I asked the question because I want to know what time it is. I already know that we have to be an at event at 6. By answering a different or irrelevant question, I haven't learned what I wanted to know. By being trained as a lawyer, at a good law school (Stanford), I learned how to be logical, methodical, and thorough.

He answered your question in one word. “Yes”. In other words, “yes, he found it surprising that UM can’t beat top 5 teams on the road without its starting QB”. he then added some additional context which apparently caused you to miss the fact that he answered your question in the very first word. So much for logical, methodical and thorough.

I responded to his post. He didn’t say yes in the post. He said yes in a later post. Even I can’t respond to a post before it is made. Why do so many UM grads not know how to read?

 

[mtgriz]

Is there a version of “Who’s on first?” for the legal profession? If not….

 

['68griz]

Of course, you can’t-won’t answer, because you have a different narrative. A question is a question. It doesn’t avoid anything.

I think it’s surprising how we lost. Disappointing. We had wins in front of us. But the complete negligence by our OC cost us two wins on the road against top 5 teams. If we have any decent offense the last two weeks we’re 7-1 with two monster wins.

It’s not who we lost to. It’s how we lost.

This!!!!

 

[mthoopsfan]

I think it’s surprising how we lost. Disappointing. We had wins in front of us. But the complete negligence by our OC cost us two wins on the road against top 5 teams. If we have any decent offense the last two weeks we’re 7-1 with two monster wins.

It’s not who we lost to. It’s how we lost.

This!!!!

Yes, we lost by being short-handed at the most important position on the offense. That's how we lost.

 

[behappp]

That’s what I don’t get. It’s obvious for any team that if you’re down your starting QB, winning becomes harder. This might be shocking to some, but it also becomes harder when you have other injuries to starters too…..

What I guess surprises me looking in from the outside, that if it is so obvious to even fans that there is no chance whatsoever to win a game if your starting QB is out; why the hell wouldn’t you bring in another QB?! Seems irresponsible to just go into a season assuming and hoping your starting QB would never get hurt, knowing full well winning games without him is physically impossible to do.

I think it is Bobby, Bobby believes that with a good defense and special teams, just as long as the backup doesn't make mistakes and turn the ball over, he can win games. I am not sure the last two weeks have changed his mind, because they had chances to beat top 5 teams on the road, even with the worst offense in the BSC. For things to be different, Bobby has to shift his philosophy.

This nails the situation. Playing Offense not to lose will work against average opponents. It has now been shown not to work against quality opponents.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Yes, every run play to the right that didn’t work should have been a run to the left or a pass.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Yes, every run play to the right that didn’t work should have been a run to the left or a pass.

Every run play that involved Kris Brown running the ball is straight up negligence how many times did KB run the ball last week? 6-7 times? Those are wasted plays. If I have a QB that cannot run I’m not calling read options and giving him the possibility. It’s not chess out here

If we have a QB like KB that struggles with making decisions. Why are we calling long developing plays? He’s a one read and ball out guy. Every play where he had to make multiple reads he puts his head down and gets sacked. It’s simple shit like that that Rosey SHOULD know with his experience.

Rosey has cost us two games that should have been won now. That’s the bottom line.

 

[HookedonGriz]

The answer is no, it’s not surprising.

What is surprising is the massive drop off we have from QB1 to QB2. How in the world do we not have a back up QB who can keep the offense moving along in some capacity? Literally from LJ to KB is like A to Z. They couldn’t be more different in their abilities and style of play. KB is not a gamer. I don’t care what he does in practice. I don’t care that the staff trusts him because of what he has shown in practice. He shits the bed in games and is not a gamer at all. Give me a fucking gamer…..anyone! This travesty is on the coaches for not having a back up QB who can still play ball and make the offense go. Other teams have this dynamic, how have we failed so miserably at it.

 

[hm.grwn.grizfan]

Just curious. It’s not surprising to me.

It’s surprising that we have the 10th ranked offense in the conference. 3rd from the last……..that is both surprising and pathetic given the resources at our disposal at UM.

 

[bigsky33]

The answer is no, it’s not surprising.

What is surprising is the massive drop off we have from QB1 to QB2. How in the world do we not have a back up QB who can keep the offense moving along in some capacity? Literally from LJ to KB is like A to Z. They couldn’t be more different in their abilities and style of play. KB is not a gamer. I don’t care what he does in practice. I don’t care that the staff trusts him because of what he has shown in practice. He shits the bed in games and is not a gamer at all. Give me a f###[#] gamer…..anyone! This travesty is on the coaches for not having a back up QB who can still play ball and make the offense go. Other teams have this dynamic, how have we failed so miserably at it.

I agree with you Hooked. When looking at the Griz team going into this season, I saw a ton of talent both on defense and offense. I really thought this team would go very far and maybe they still will. On the other hand, I thought the Cats would drop off because of the player losses last season. The difference it appears is in the respective coaching staffs. The Cat's ended the season with Tucker Rovig after Tommy got hurt. The Cat coaches knew they needed to go out and get a better backup QB and they did it in Chambers. The Griz knew what they had in a backup in Brown going into the season and they didn't do anything. Also, knowing they were going into the Weber game with Brown and his shortcomings, the coaching staff didn't show any creativity in using the other offensive weapons to help make up for them. When the Cats had no running backs the coaches were very creative with the other offenive players and were successful. The other big coaching contrast is with the respective offensive lines. OL has been a big weakness now for the past few years with the Griz. The OL coach appears to not have done a good job of recruiting or developing players. On the other hand, the Cats lost almost the entire starting OL last season. This season the Cat OL has not missed a beat. The OL coach has done a great job in recruiting and developing good depth. In fact, in that Weber game we were down two starting offensive lineman with injuries and they were still able to put up almost 500 yds of offense.

It seems very obvious, the Griz have some coaching problems that will need to be addressed at the end of the season. Lot's of years of friendship with Hauck and the staff. Will Hauck do anything?

 

[Fahque]

This team is EXACTLY where Stitt would have had it. 5-3, but under .500 in conference. Beating up on cupcakes….losing against any team with a pulse. Racking up massive yards against cupcakes…unable to generate even a semblance of an offense against any defense remotely above average.

No, it isn't. UM will not be ranked out of the top 30 this week, or at the end of the season. Stitt lost to some cupcakes. Still never had to play 2 top 5 teams in the conference. Stitt was never hired as a coach, as opposed to analyst, after he left UM. You people with narratives drive me nuts. You're like politicians. Try being objective. And positive occasionally.

You or anybody else has no idea where a Stitt coach team would be at this point AND your initial question only seeks the answers you want to hear and completely misses the issue we are having when our first string QB goes down

 

[HookedonGriz]

The answer is no, it’s not surprising.

What is surprising is the massive drop off we have from QB1 to QB2. How in the world do we not have a back up QB who can keep the offense moving along in some capacity? Literally from LJ to KB is like A to Z. They couldn’t be more different in their abilities and style of play. KB is not a gamer. I don’t care what he does in practice. I don’t care that the staff trusts him because of what he has shown in practice. He shits the bed in games and is not a gamer at all. Give me a f###[#] gamer…..anyone! This travesty is on the coaches for not having a back up QB who can still play ball and make the offense go. Other teams have this dynamic, how have we failed so miserably at it.

I agree with you Hooked. When looking at the Griz team going into this season, I saw a ton of talent both on defense and offense. I really thought this team would go very far and maybe they still will. On the other hand, I thought the Cats would drop off because of the player losses last season. The difference it appears is in the respective coaching staffs. The Cat's ended the season with Tucker Rovig after Tommy got hurt. The Cat coaches knew they needed to go out and get a better backup QB and they did it in Chambers. The Griz knew what they had in a backup in Brown going into the season and they didn't do anything. Also, knowing they were going into the Weber game with Brown and his shortcomings, the coaching staff didn't show any creativity in using the other offensive weapons to help make up for them. When the Cats had no running backs the coaches were very creative with the other offenive players and were successful. The other big coaching contrast is with the respective offensive lines. OL has been a big weakness now for the past few years with the Griz. The OL coach appears to not have done a good job of recruiting or developing players. On the other hand, the Cats lost almost the entire starting OL last season. This season the Cat OL has not missed a beat. The OL coach has done a great job in recruiting and developing good depth. In fact, in that Weber game we were down two starting offensive lineman with injuries and they were still able to put up almost 500 yds of offense.

It seems very obvious, the Griz have some coaching problems that will need to be addressed at the end of the season. Lot's of years of friendship with Hauck and the staff. Will Hauck do anything?

All fair statements and I can’t argue any of it. I’d like to see a change at OC as well as the OL coach.

 

[Bear Spray]

The answer is no, it’s not surprising.

What is surprising is the massive drop off we have from QB1 to QB2. How in the world do we not have a back up QB who can keep the offense moving along in some capacity? Literally from LJ to KB is like A to Z. They couldn’t be more different in their abilities and style of play. KB is not a gamer. I don’t care what he does in practice. I don’t care that the staff trusts him because of what he has shown in practice. He shits the bed in games and is not a gamer at all. Give me a f###[#] gamer…..anyone! This travesty is on the coaches for not having a back up QB who can still play ball and make the offense go. Other teams have this dynamic, how have we failed so miserably at it.

I agree with you Hooked. When looking at the Griz team going into this season, I saw a ton of talent both on defense and offense. I really thought this team would go very far and maybe they still will. On the other hand, I thought the Cats would drop off because of the player losses last season. The difference it appears is in the respective coaching staffs. The Cat's ended the season with Tucker Rovig after Tommy got hurt. The Cat coaches knew they needed to go out and get a better backup QB and they did it in Chambers. The Griz knew what they had in a backup in Brown going into the season and they didn't do anything. Also, knowing they were going into the Weber game with Brown and his shortcomings, the coaching staff didn't show any creativity in using the other offensive weapons to help make up for them. When the Cats had no running backs the coaches were very creative with the other offenive players and were successful. The other big coaching contrast is with the respective offensive lines. OL has been a big weakness now for the past few years with the Griz. The OL coach appears to not have done a good job of recruiting or developing players. On the other hand, the Cats lost almost the entire starting OL last season. This season the Cat OL has not missed a beat. The OL coach has done a great job in recruiting and developing good depth. In fact, in that Weber game we were down two starting offensive lineman with injuries and they were still able to put up almost 500 yds of offense.

It seems very obvious, the Griz have some coaching problems that will need to be addressed at the end of the season. Lot's of years of friendship with Hauck and the staff. Will Hauck do anything?

Agree, and last year when McKay left the team the staff knew Mellot was ready & schemed the offense to his skill set. Good coaching. It may take a little longer to Return The Dominatrix but at least the Griz aren't getting spanked too hard.

 

[mthoopsfan]

No, it isn't. UM will not be ranked out of the top 30 this week, or at the end of the season. Stitt lost to some cupcakes. Still never had to play 2 top 5 teams in the conference. Stitt was never hired as a coach, as opposed to analyst, after he left UM. You people with narratives drive me nuts. You're like politicians. Try being objective. And positive occasionally.

You or anybody else has no idea where a Stitt coach team would be at this point AND your initial question only seeks the answers you want to hear and completely misses the issue we are having when our first string QB goes down

Yes, I have a very good idea of where a Stitt would be. Just because you don't know, don't assume that some of the rest of us don't know.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Just curious. It’s not surprising to me.

It’s surprising that we have the 10th ranked offense in the conference. 3rd from the last……..that is both surprising and pathetic given the resources at our disposal at UM.

It's not surprising to me, after losing our very good starting qb.

10th in Total O. 6th in scoring, 7th in rushing, 6th in TD's and 10th in passing.

 

[granitegriz]

That’s what I don’t get. It’s obvious for any team that if you’re down your starting QB, winning becomes harder. This might be shocking to some, but it also becomes harder when you have other injuries to starters too…..

What I guess surprises me looking in from the outside, that if it is so obvious to even fans that there is no chance whatsoever to win a game if your starting QB is out; why the hell wouldn’t you bring in another QB?! Seems irresponsible to just go into a season assuming and hoping your starting QB would never get hurt, knowing full well winning games without him is physically impossible to do.

I think it is Bobby, Bobby believes that with a good defense and special teams, just as long as the backup doesn't make mistakes and turn the ball over, he can win games. I am not sure the last two weeks have changed his mind, because they had chances to beat top 5 teams on the road, even with the worst offense in the BSC. For things to be different, Bobby has to shift his philosophy.

Spot on HHB!!!

 

[hm.grwn.grizfan]

It’s surprising that we have the 10th ranked offense in the conference. 3rd from the last……..that is both surprising and pathetic given the resources at our disposal at UM.

It's not surprising to me, after losing our very good starting qb.

10th in Total O. 6th in scoring, 7th in rushing, 6th in TD's and 10th in passing.

All those stats are awful, and the offense hasn’t put up many of those points. LJ missed two games :lol: and the offense wasn’t exactly humming with him vs Idaho either (cue the he was sick excuse) and that our staff can’t put together a competent offense with the second string qb who has been in the program for 4 seasons IS PATHETIC! Keep defending that offense which put up just 114 yards last week. In todays college football that is AWFUL! And it wasn’t just last week, but the three games prior as well that they played poorly and without rhythm or identity.

 

[mthoopsfan]

It's not surprising to me, after losing our very good starting qb.

10th in Total O. 6th in scoring, 7th in rushing, 6th in TD's and 10th in passing.

He missed two games :lol: and that our staff can’t put together a competent offense with the second string qb who has been in the program for 4 seasons IS PATHETIC! Keep defending that offense which put up just 114 yards last week. In todays college football that is AWFUL! And it wasn’t just last week, but the three games prior as well that they played poorly and without rhythm or identity.

I haven't defended the offense. The O has been horrible in recent games. Please learn how to read and comprehend.