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In-state vs. Out-of-State... Who's Johnson is bigger???

Speaking of foresight there may come a time when NOBODY will be wearing the coveted #37....which goes to the outstanding/inspirational Montana bred defensive player.....there are only three players that qualify in '13......Wagenman,Tripp, and Kidder......and Tripp and Wagenman will be gone after next year.....this is way down from the Utterback, Anderson era when over half the defensive starters were from Montana.
 
Teton Cat said:
Speaking of foresight there may come a time when NOBODY will be wearing the coveted #37....which goes to the outstanding/inspirational Montana bred defensive player.....there are only three players that qualify in '13......Wagenman,Tripp, and Kidder......and Tripp and Wagenman will be gone after next year.....this is way down from the Utterback, Anderson era when over half the defensive starters were from Montana.
First worn by a player on offense.
 
The in-state recruiting battle matters. Look at the players both Universities have put in the league in the last 10 years, then look at where they are from. Of course, you want the best players, wherever they are, but many of our best players have come from our own back yard. To say that doesn't matter is wishful thinking...
 
Teton Cat said:
Speaking of foresight there may come a time when NOBODY will be wearing the coveted #37....which goes to the outstanding/inspirational Montana bred defensive player.....there are only three players that qualify in '13......Wagenman,Tripp, and Kidder......and Tripp and Wagenman will be gone after next year.....this is way down from the Utterback, Anderson era when over half the defensive starters were from Montana.

doesn't have to be a defensive player.
 
Part of the reason this state loves the Grizzlies is due to the amount of home grown boys who play for them. Out of staters/transplants will never get it, but the fact is native Montanans connect more with Montana kids playing for the Griz than kids from out of state. My favorite players every year are the Montana kids. I don't think I'm alone there. Both our NC teams were built heavily with Montana kids. Now I realize it's different now and to remain competitive at this level we have to recruit heavily out of state. I'm fine with that, as another poster said once they put on the uniform they are Griz and I'll be their biggest fan. But the players that are and have been my favs are the boys from Montana and i hope we always have room for a few on our MONTANA team! Go Griz, wherever your from!
 
Really. If Washington and Oregon FBS recruiters in state's with roughly three times Montana's population
spend half their time in California who honestly believes the Griz could ever be competitive (even in a
so-so BSC) with a roster made up mostly of good ol' home grown boys? Get real... :roll:
 
Silvertip said:
Really. If Washington and Oregon FBS recruiters in state's with roughly three times Montana's population
spend half their time in California who honestly believes the Griz could ever be competitive (even in a
so-so BSC) with a roster made up mostly of good ol' home grown boys? Get real... :roll:

Who said that Tip??? Reading comprehension not your strong point, I see.
 
Hammer said:
Silvertip said:
Really. If Washington and Oregon FBS recruiters in state's with roughly three times Montana's population
spend half their time in California who honestly believes the Griz could ever be competitive (even in a
so-so BSC) with a roster made up mostly of good ol' home grown boys? Get real... :roll:

Who said that Tip??? Reading comprehension not your strong point, I see.

Elucidate?...Maybe UM and MSU can arrange a belated return to Naranche to make you happy...
 
Hammer said:
Part of the reason this state loves the Grizzlies is due to the amount of home grown boys who play for them. Out of staters/transplants will never get it, but the fact is native Montanans connect more with Montana kids playing for the Griz than kids from out of state. My favorite players every year are the Montana kids. I don't think I'm alone there. Both our NC teams were built heavily with Montana kids. Now I realize it's different now and to remain competitive at this level we have to recruit heavily out of state. I'm fine with that, as another poster said once they put on the uniform they are Griz and I'll be their biggest fan. But the players that are and have been my favs are the boys from Montana and i hope we always have room for a few on our MONTANA team! Go Griz, wherever your from!

You directly contradict yourself in that bolded sentence, Hammer.

I think it's amazing how the Griz that end up in the pros in recent years have been mostly Montana players (with the exception of Tru & Wilson & McSurdy), but honestly once they're ON the team I really don't care nor think about WHERE they're from. I'm just a big of fan of the above three as I am of Anderson, Carps, Hilliard, Harris, Biermann, etc. I'm just as big of a fan of Poehls, Kistler, Canada, Hermanson, etc as I am of Kidder, Harris, Bienneman, and the other "Montana" players.

I think the issue should be less about how MANY Montana players there are on the team and more about ensuring we get the BEST Montana talent each year. This year, I think anyone who looked at it honestly would say that the 'scats beat us for the best talent in the state. That can't happen.
 
Only two answers to your original question.

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AZGrizFan said:
Hammer said:
Part of the reason this state loves the Grizzlies is due to the amount of home grown boys who play for them. Out of staters/transplants will never get it, but the fact is native Montanans connect more with Montana kids playing for the Griz than kids from out of state. My favorite players every year are the Montana kids. I don't think I'm alone there. Both our NC teams were built heavily with Montana kids. Now I realize it's different now and to remain competitive at this level we have to recruit heavily out of state. I'm fine with that, as another poster said once they put on the uniform they are Griz and I'll be their biggest fan. But the players that are and have been my favs are the boys from Montana and i hope we always have room for a few on our MONTANA team! Go Griz, wherever your from!

You directly contradict yourself in that bolded sentence, Hammer.

I think it's amazing how the Griz that end up in the pros in recent years have been mostly Montana players (with the exception of Tru & Wilson & McSurdy), but honestly once they're ON the team I really don't care nor think about WHERE they're from. I'm just a big of fan of the above three as I am of Anderson, Carps, Hilliard, Harris, Biermann, etc. I'm just as big of a fan of Poehls, Kistler, Canada, Hermanson, etc as I am of Kidder, Harris, Bienneman, and the other "Montana" players.

I think the issue should be less about how MANY Montana players there are on the team and more about ensuring we get the BEST Montana talent each year. This year, I think anyone who looked at it honestly would say that the 'scats beat us for the best talent in the state. That can't happen.

My favorite GRIZ to watch the last 2 years have been Tru and Dan Moore. Dan Moore would have been the perfect 37, if had been from Montana.
 
mtgrizrule said:
AZGrizFan said:
Hammer said:
Part of the reason this state loves the Grizzlies is due to the amount of home grown boys who play for them. Out of staters/transplants will never get it, but the fact is native Montanans connect more with Montana kids playing for the Griz than kids from out of state. My favorite players every year are the Montana kids. I don't think I'm alone there. Both our NC teams were built heavily with Montana kids. Now I realize it's different now and to remain competitive at this level we have to recruit heavily out of state. I'm fine with that, as another poster said once they put on the uniform they are Griz and I'll be their biggest fan. But the players that are and have been my favs are the boys from Montana and i hope we always have room for a few on our MONTANA team! Go Griz, wherever your from!

You directly contradict yourself in that bolded sentence, Hammer.

I think it's amazing how the Griz that end up in the pros in recent years have been mostly Montana players (with the exception of Tru & Wilson & McSurdy), but honestly once they're ON the team I really don't care nor think about WHERE they're from. I'm just a big of fan of the above three as I am of Anderson, Carps, Hilliard, Harris, Biermann, etc. I'm just as big of a fan of Poehls, Kistler, Canada, Hermanson, etc as I am of Kidder, Harris, Bienneman, and the other "Montana" players.

I think the issue should be less about how MANY Montana players there are on the team and more about ensuring we get the BEST Montana talent each year. This year, I think anyone who looked at it honestly would say that the 'scats beat us for the best talent in the state. That can't happen.

My favorite GRIZ to watch the last 2 years have been Tru and Dan Moore. Dan Moore would have been the perfect 37, if had been from Montana.

Exactly. My favorite guy last year was McSurdy. Oops, he's from Boise. Well, shit. :oops: :oops:
 
It's fine to say that your favorite players are the Montana kids. Nothing wrong with that at all. And nothing inherently contradictory about it.

But some comments on this forum have suggested that being born within the imaginary border lines of Montana somehow endows a person with magical powers like integrity, character, intelligence and willingness to work hard, etc., which people born outside those imaginary lines somehow lack.

And as someone born inside those lines, I'm here to tell you that line of thinking is pure fairy dust material.
 
I want the people that can play ball. If they make the Griz team....... they will always look good to me.

No perfect answer to the In state------------- Out of state...question. Lets play ball!
 
Catsrback76 said:
Only two answers to your original question.

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I know the running back, heard about him, but have only seen him rush for about 80 yards in two games that I have attended. Don't have a clue who the skinny dude is in the top picture.

Was the question "Most overrated running back in big sky history is.....?" or "Can you find a picture of some dude that nobody knows....?"
 
stubbins said:
I know the running back, heard about him, but have only seen him rush for about 80 yards in two games that I have attended. Don't have a clue who the skinny dude is in the top picture.

Was the question "Most overrated running back in big sky history is.....?" or "Can you find a picture of some dude that nobody knows....?"
You mean the guys that have 4,634 yards of offense, 40 TDs, and have beat you 2 out of 3 times? Yeah, those guys.
 
ABQCat said:
stubbins said:
I know the running back, heard about him, but have only seen him rush for about 80 yards in two games that I have attended. Don't have a clue who the skinny dude is in the top picture.

Was the question "Most overrated running back in big sky history is.....?" or "Can you find a picture of some dude that nobody knows....?"
You mean the guys that have 4,634 yards of offense, 40 TDs, and have beat you 2 out of 3 times? Yeah, those guys.

Nice job... Johnson.
 
ABQCat said:
stubbins said:
I know the running back, heard about him, but have only seen him rush for about 80 yards in two games that I have attended. Don't have a clue who the skinny dude is in the top picture.

Was the question "Most overrated running back in big sky history is.....?" or "Can you find a picture of some dude that nobody knows....?"
You mean the guys that have 4,634 yards of offense, 40 TDs, and have beat you 2 out of 3 times? Yeah, those guys.
In the years they actually played against us:

Cody Kirk - 33 carries for 100 yards rushing total, 0 TDs
Tanner Bleskin - 5 catches for 44 yards receiving total, 0 TDs

1-1 record

Scary good. :lol:
 
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