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I'm Okay with the Loss

Here is my question because I really dont know- Can the offensive and defensive lines truly improve significantly over the rest of the season? Can they learn from what happened this week and be notably improved from the leasons they learned or are they limited by talent and therefore, while they may improve some and the coaches can maybe tweak a few things, for the most part they are what they are until new talent comes in?
 
cmtgrizzly said:
Here is my question because I really dont know- Can the offensive and defensive lines truly improve significantly over the rest of the season? Can they learn from what happened this week and be notably improved from the leasons they learned or are they limited by talent and therefore, while they may improve some and the coaches can maybe tweak a few things, for the most part they are what they are until new talent comes in?

Yes, to some extent,. The 0-line has played better most of the season. Don't know if the d-line had big issues yesterday or not. Perhaps they did. SS averaged 3.3 per run. UM averaged 5.5, influenced by JLM's long run. Deming and Mamula had sacks. The d-line had 4 of the 7 TFL's.
 
PlayerRep said:
Oh, please. Half of football games are losses. Much of life is "losses". You are a fan, not a coach.

This wasn't a game UM "should" have won and gave away. It was a tough game, as Hauck said coming into it, the SS beat UM soundly.

Not sure I said anything about "should have won and gave away". I did say that no one should be OK with losing, unless of course you are a loser.
 
PlayerRep said:
cmtgrizzly said:
Here is my question because I really dont know- Can the offensive and defensive lines truly improve significantly over the rest of the season? Can they learn from what happened this week and be notably improved from the leasons they learned or are they limited by talent and therefore, while they may improve some and the coaches can maybe tweak a few things, for the most part they are what they are until new talent comes in?

Yes, to some extent,. The 0-line has played better most of the season. Don't know if the d-line had big issues yesterday or not. Perhaps they did. SS averaged 3.3 per run. UM averaged 5.5, influenced by JLM's long run. Deming and Mamula had sacks. The d-line had 4 of the 7 TFL's.
Lewis had 17 tackles & Olson had 16 tackles. I love how hard the Griz linebackers play. :clap: :clap:
 
PlayerRep said:
cmtgrizzly said:
Here is my question because I really dont know- Can the offensive and defensive lines truly improve significantly over the rest of the season? Can they learn from what happened this week and be notably improved from the leasons they learned or are they limited by talent and therefore, while they may improve some and the coaches can maybe tweak a few things, for the most part they are what they are until new talent comes in?

Yes, to some extent,. The 0-line has played better most of the season. Don't know if the d-line had big issues yesterday or not. Perhaps they did. SS averaged 3.3 per run. UM averaged 5.5, influenced by JLM's long run. Deming and Mamula had sacks. The d-line had 4 of the 7 TFL's.

Good, and I am not saying either line played bad. I havent seen the game yet. Just responding to other peoples posts. Overall I think the line has played much better this year. I can see with the sacks given up and report of poor pressure put on SS QB why people have questions this game. Maybe SS is just really good. Rest of the year will tell the tale I guess.
 
grizindabox said:
PlayerRep said:
Oh, please. Half of football games are losses. Much of life is "losses". You are a fan, not a coach.

This wasn't a game UM "should" have won and gave away. It was a tough game, as Hauck said coming into it, the SS beat UM soundly.

Not sure I said anything about "should have won and gave away". I did say that no one should be OK with losing, unless of course you are a loser.

Your problem is the you never played the game, so you often say stupid things about football. Talk about a loser. You are the epitome of a loser. Have you ever accomplished anything in life?

By the way, I said I was okay with the loss, not losing. Do you not even know the difference?
 
PlayerRep said:
grizindabox said:
PlayerRep said:
Oh, please. Half of football games are losses. Much of life is "losses". You are a fan, not a coach.

This wasn't a game UM "should" have won and gave away. It was a tough game, as Hauck said coming into it, the SS beat UM soundly.

Not sure I said anything about "should have won and gave away". I did say that no one should be OK with losing, unless of course you are a loser.

Your problem is the you never played the game, so you often say stupid things about football. Talk about a loser. You are the epitome of a loser. Have you ever accomplished anything in life?

So you are telling me that Hauck and all the players should be OK with losing? No one should ever be OK with losing. Now if you want to suggest it should be a learning experience and they need to put it behind them, I am great with that, but never with being OK with a loss.
 
grizindabox said:
PlayerRep said:
grizindabox said:
PlayerRep said:
Oh, please. Half of football games are losses. Much of life is "losses". You are a fan, not a coach.

This wasn't a game UM "should" have won and gave away. It was a tough game, as Hauck said coming into it, the SS beat UM soundly.

Not sure I said anything about "should have won and gave away". I did say that no one should be OK with losing, unless of course you are a loser.

Your problem is the you never played the game, so you often say stupid things about football. Talk about a loser. You are the epitome of a loser. Have you ever accomplished anything in life?

So you are telling me that Hauck and all the players should be OK with losing? No one should ever be OK with losing. Now if you want to suggest it should be a learning experience and they need to put it behind them, I am great with that, but never with being OK with a loss.

Can you not read?

What I said was "I" am okay with the loss. I said nothing about Hauck or the players.

And I think it's funny that a fan like yourself, who never played the game, is saying stuff like you are about losses. The game is over. Fans like yourself can't do anything about the game. Why waste energy and emotion about something you have zero control of at this point. Time to move on, and support your team.
 

Can you not read?

What I said was "I" am okay with the loss. I said nothing about Hauck or the players.

And I think it's funny that a fan like yourself, who never played the game, is saying stuff like you are about losses. The game is over. Fans like yourself can't do anything about the game. Why waste energy and emotion about something you have zero control of at this point. Time to move on, and support your team.
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Can't you read? I said that only losers are OK with losing, doesn't matter if you are a coach, a player, a fan, whoever. I have moved on, and will support the team, but no one should be OK with losing, unless they are a loser them self.
 
grizindabox said:

Can you not read?

What I said was "I" am okay with the loss. I said nothing about Hauck or the players.

And I think it's funny that a fan like yourself, who never played the game, is saying stuff like you are about losses. The game is over. Fans like yourself can't do anything about the game. Why waste energy and emotion about something you have zero control of at this point. Time to move on, and support your team.

Can't you read? I said that only losers are OK with losing, doesn't matter if you are a coach, a player, a fan, whoever. I have moved on, and will support the team, but no one should be OK with losing, unless they are a loser them self.
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Again, I said I was okay with the loss, not losing.

You never played the game, so you have no credibility on the subject. My guess is that youi lose everyday in life, and are fine with that.
 
PlayerRep said:
The Griz are a good team. We will soon see how good. I never thought the Griz were a great team. I expect the Griz to recover from the loss, and get back to fixing things and improving.

SS played very well tonight, are a good team, their qb is good, and their receivers made a lot of tough catches. I can't imagine that they can continue to catch the ball like that.

UM can't have 12 penalties for 202 yards, especially with the other team having only 1 penalty. Yes, some of the PI calls were incorrect, and perhaps a few others too, but things like that happen in some games.

Don't know why Hauck didn't challenge the second pick late in the half. Looked to me that the ball hit the ground as the receiver was diving/stretching to catch it. Was a huge shift in the game.

Griz receivers need to catch the ball better.

Sneed was fine, but didn't have his usual great game. Was pushed out of the pocket a bit too much. Hope he's okay. Think UM would have scored a couple more TD's with him in the game, but still not enough, of course.

I can't explain how the secondary let receivers get so many yards behind them, like they did several times. It was usually a safety chasing them. Don't know what defense UM was in or what went wrong. Will be interesting to learn more.

I don't fault 96 for not quite being able to cover 33 out of the backfield and downfield so far. Don't fault the safety either, but it seemed that he was slow in reacting to the play, when I saw the replay. Nice play, nice blocking, nice route, nice throw, nice catch.

Our tackling wasn't bad, but it could and should have been better. SS was usually getting too much yardage on first and second down.

Running game wasn't and isn't strong enough yet, but was okay at times. O-line didn't seem to block as well as they had in past games. We gave up 6 sacks. Again, I couldn't really see what was going on.

Don't know what was off on early open pass to Bingham over the middle. There were many plays like that, which the Griz needed to win way more than they did.

JLM's early long TD run was awesome, and incredibly well blocked. Toure had a great and long block downfield.

561 to 391 on TO. 31 to 15 on first downs. Ouch. 39 to 21 on TOP. Average per play was fairly even at 6.8 to 6.1, but SS had 83 plays, and 19 more than Griz.

Our 3d and 4th down conversions were 4 of 15, and 2 of 5. Not very good. SS wasn't great either, but they didn't need them because they were getting so much on 1st and 2d downs.

Punting was good, but too many. 5 for 42.6 and almost no returns.

I think SS will lose some games, as their schedule isn't a cakewalk. If they win or most of them, then they deserve to be conference champs. I would be happy to play them again.

Could Pluto such any more?

I know UM got beat every which way, but all we have to do is get way less penalties, cover deep better in long yardage situations, have our receivers catch the ball like SS's did, protect Sneed better, and challenge a key call every once in a while. Really, that's all. Ha. I thought our guys fought pretty hard to the finish.

What a bunch of barrister goo. I guess you will be OK with the thumping the EAGS are going to give the grizzies on Saturday.
 
GoldenEagle said:
PlayerRep said:
The Griz are a good team. We will soon see how good. I never thought the Griz were a great team. I expect the Griz to recover from the loss, and get back to fixing things and improving.

SS played very well tonight, are a good team, their qb is good, and their receivers made a lot of tough catches. I can't imagine that they can continue to catch the ball like that.

UM can't have 12 penalties for 202 yards, especially with the other team having only 1 penalty. Yes, some of the PI calls were incorrect, and perhaps a few others too, but things like that happen in some games.

Don't know why Hauck didn't challenge the second pick late in the half. Looked to me that the ball hit the ground as the receiver was diving/stretching to catch it. Was a huge shift in the game.

Griz receivers need to catch the ball better.

Sneed was fine, but didn't have his usual great game. Was pushed out of the pocket a bit too much. Hope he's okay. Think UM would have scored a couple more TD's with him in the game, but still not enough, of course.

I can't explain how the secondary let receivers get so many yards behind them, like they did several times. It was usually a safety chasing them. Don't know what defense UM was in or what went wrong. Will be interesting to learn more.

I don't fault 96 for not quite being able to cover 33 out of the backfield and downfield so far. Don't fault the safety either, but it seemed that he was slow in reacting to the play, when I saw the replay. Nice play, nice blocking, nice route, nice throw, nice catch.

Our tackling wasn't bad, but it could and should have been better. SS was usually getting too much yardage on first and second down.

Running game wasn't and isn't strong enough yet, but was okay at times. O-line didn't seem to block as well as they had in past games. We gave up 6 sacks. Again, I couldn't really see what was going on.

Don't know what was off on early open pass to Bingham over the middle. There were many plays like that, which the Griz needed to win way more than they did.

JLM's early long TD run was awesome, and incredibly well blocked. Toure had a great and long block downfield.

561 to 391 on TO. 31 to 15 on first downs. Ouch. 39 to 21 on TOP. Average per play was fairly even at 6.8 to 6.1, but SS had 83 plays, and 19 more than Griz.

Our 3d and 4th down conversions were 4 of 15, and 2 of 5. Not very good. SS wasn't great either, but they didn't need them because they were getting so much on 1st and 2d downs.

Punting was good, but too many. 5 for 42.6 and almost no returns.

I think SS will lose some games, as their schedule isn't a cakewalk. If they win or most of them, then they deserve to be conference champs. I would be happy to play them again.

Could Pluto such any more?

I know UM got beat every which way, but all we have to do is get way less penalties, cover deep better in long yardage situations, have our receivers catch the ball like SS's did, protect Sneed better, and challenge a key call every once in a while. Really, that's all. Ha. I thought our guys fought pretty hard to the finish.

What a bunch of barrister goo. I guess you will be OK with the thumping the EAGS are going to give the grizzies on Saturday.

I look forward to kicking EWU's butts. Would love a shot at you too. LOL.
 
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