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I SUPPORT STITT

reinell30 said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
ranco said:
Ursus1 said:
I think Neikamp as well...bottom of league again in special teams so last year was not an anomaly. Bring in a new DC and STC( or maybe try Shann as STC. he has seen it schemed and coached at highest level).

Yeah, our kick return's are horrible. Someone mentioned in another post that they hope the other team kicks it into the end zone each time. Its the best field position we can hope for.

Ya and when we fumble the kid comes off the field laughing.

Maybe why Stitt doesn't use JLM on Kickoff returns is so he doesn't hurt from the protection being so bad?
Correct; when was the last time you saw a block on one of our KO returns?
 
Ursus1 said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Its not Stitt that needs to go...its his buddy Semore....and I'm afraid Stitt may be too loyal to save himself.

I think Neikamp as well...bottom of league again in special teams so last year was not an anomaly. Bring in a new DC and STC( or maybe try Shann as STC. he has seen it schemed and coached at highest level).
Neikamp is a LBs coach. Unloading STs on him on top of it illustrates the priority Stitt has for STs.
 
daGrizJ said:
That game was a perfect shit storm from the first 1/4. Stitt did not throw 3 bad INTs. (Jensen finally had his "freshman" game. I don't care. He will be a super Griz QB. I hope he is OK.) Stitt did not fumble twice giving a short field and losing a late score. Stitt did not commit 2 targeting/disqualifying penalties that lost two key players. One who was filling in for the idiot shit Strong did. (Both, IMO, were called correct and completely the fault of the players.) Stitt and Semore put their players in position to make plays for most of the game. "No comment" on the refs. The last three recruiting classes are outstanding. I continue to support this entire staff no matter how the season works out from here.

Yes, but those are mistakes that under prepared and under motivated teams make. They are mistakes that differentiate a 5-6 team from a 9-2 team. I do lay the blame for how the Griz performed in the first half at the hands of the coaches. They had two weeks to prepare and the first two offensive series looked like they had an afternoon to prepare. I will give the coaches credit for the much improved second half performance. If that kind of performance can be carried over in the next 3 games, I will want Stitt to have another year; but if we revert back to that first half performance or the Cat performance of last year, then it will be time to cut bait.
 
kemajic said:
reinell30 said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
ranco said:
Yeah, our kick return's are horrible. Someone mentioned in another post that they hope the other team kicks it into the end zone each time. Its the best field position we can hope for.

Ya and when we fumble the kid comes off the field laughing.

Maybe why Stitt doesn't use JLM on Kickoff returns is so he doesn't hurt from the protection being so bad?
Correct; when was the last time you saw a block on one of our KO returns?

And when was the last time time you saw a returner NOT stop at the first wave, can't the "coach" look at MM returns?
Sorry irrelevant answer, they had blocking then.
 
It's interesting watching this unfold...
I'm certain if someone dug up the end of season posts form 2016 or beginning of the season this year, how many said "if Stitt can go 7-4 next year he should get another year", and where they are posting now. Does the season suck overall...yes. But there is a chance to go 8-3 or 7-4. My opinion is 7-4 he gets 1 more year, but would be required to make some changes. 6-5, well then obviously that's not going to work.
The Griz have lost their senior starting QB, that honestly, was something special this year. There is no denying what that kid was in the process of doing. GJ is going to be something special, but at any level it's tough for a freshman to understand the game, then come in and see the speed of the game.
Defensively, it's a zoo. Lost a key DT, starting safety, and lack depth at certain positions. I think the coaching has improved, although really only 1 game to look at stats in that regard. Special teams...I'm seriously thinking about calling BH and asking to spend time with him to learn some special teams...and then applying for the job. Holy crap man. I bet northern would run better kick returns than the Griz against the same opponents.
I am a Stitt supporter for 1 more season only...as long as they do not end up 6-5. I think he needs to make important coaching changes in the off season, including getting Andy Thompson here as DC if he doesn't get the HC job at NAU. Let's support these guys through this. Griz Nation is amazing and they feed of the fans. GO GRIZ!
 
Didn't Stitt say he was going to look at ALL phases of the game and make changes...well do you really think that he will next year ?
 
AZDoc said:
It's interesting watching this unfold...
I'm certain if someone dug up the end of season posts form 2016 or beginning of the season this year, how many said "if Stitt can go 7-4 next year he should get another year", and where they are posting now. Does the season suck overall...yes. But there is a chance to go 8-3 or 7-4. My opinion is 7-4 he gets 1 more year, but would be required to make some changes. 6-5, well then obviously that's not going to work.
The Griz have lost their senior starting QB, that honestly, was something special this year. There is no denying what that kid was in the process of doing. GJ is going to be something special, but at any level it's tough for a freshman to understand the game, then come in and see the speed of the game.
Defensively, it's a zoo. Lost a key DT, starting safety, and lack depth at certain positions. I think the coaching has improved, although really only 1 game to look at stats in that regard. Special teams...I'm seriously thinking about calling BH and asking to spend time with him to learn some special teams...and then applying for the job. Holy crap man. I bet northern would run better kick returns than the Griz against the same opponents.
I am a Stitt supporter for 1 more season only...as long as they do not end up 6-5. I think he needs to make important coaching changes in the off season, including getting Andy Thompson here as DC if he doesn't get the HC job at NAU. Let's support these guys through this. Griz Nation is amazing and they feed of the fans. GO GRIZ!

I line up pretty close to where you are.
 
AZDoc said:
It's interesting watching this unfold...
I'm certain if someone dug up the end of season posts form 2016 or beginning of the season this year, how many said "if Stitt can go 7-4 next year he should get another year", and where they are posting now. Does the season suck overall...yes. But there is a chance to go 8-3 or 7-4. My opinion is 7-4 he gets 1 more year, but would be required to make some changes. 6-5, well then obviously that's not going to work.
The Griz have lost their senior starting QB, that honestly, was something special this year. There is no denying what that kid was in the process of doing. GJ is going to be something special, but at any level it's tough for a freshman to understand the game, then come in and see the speed of the game.
Defensively, it's a zoo. Lost a key DT, starting safety, and lack depth at certain positions. I think the coaching has improved, although really only 1 game to look at stats in that regard. Special teams...I'm seriously thinking about calling BH and asking to spend time with him to learn some special teams...and then applying for the job. Holy crap man. I bet northern would run better kick returns than the Griz against the same opponents.
I am a Stitt supporter for 1 more season only...as long as they do not end up 6-5. I think he needs to make important coaching changes in the off season, including getting Andy Thompson here as DC if he doesn't get the HC job at NAU. Let's support these guys through this. Griz Nation is amazing and they feed of the fans. GO GRIZ!
After watching the first half of the Weber game, the UNC game may not be a lock. Looking past them to MSU; this team seems easily distracted. 5-6 may be as likely as 7-4.
 
Hang with Stitt: I believe he will be putting up unbelievable numbers soon. The components are there and it is just takes some fine tuning. Defensively,I think Semore has moved out of the Bend but don't break Camp, and is intent on going " Balls to the Wall" pressure. Go Grizz
 
Without intending to make excuses for Stitt, or take sides in that discussion, I do think the loss of Phillips has had a significant impact on the season.

I was never a big believer in the offense as being anything special, but I have to admit that it has more consistently cranked out points and TD's this year, even being run by a redshirt frosh qb. Didn't think that would occur. Selle, Ferriter, Green and Germer probably deserve credit too. Too many turnovers, tho, probably mainly the result of a young qb.

The running backs and receivers have hung onto the ball fairly well. That's good. Receivers are making more tough catches.

KO and punt coverage has improved, including with the use of starters. Place kicking is better this year. Punter needs more consistency. He has the potential to change field position when it needs to be changed, but then, like at Weber, did the opposite. He isn't getting anything blocked; knock on wood. Assume he'll get there.

As pointed out, how can KO returns be so bad. No blocking and no running. I chuckled at the comment that maybe JLM is kept off KO returns so he doesn't get killed. Punt returns seem to be close, especially with JLM back there. Penalties on ST's need to stop. I would have taken out the returner after the first fumble. A frosh. The first one could have really rattled him.

Defense is somewhat of a mystery this year. They played great against Weber, especially in second half. They have make a lot of stops and big and good plays all season. They have bailed out the O at times. They have talent. But man do they give up yardage sometimes. To me, the worse thing is the number of big 3 down stops and long 3d and longs, that they don't execute on. The O could help them out more, especially with less 3 and outs, including at the start of games. The backers were almost unbelievable against Weber, and that includes some backups. I obviously didn't watch Epperly on every play, but I didn't see him making mistakes or getting beat, and he had good stats, so he must have played well.
 
PlayerRep said:
debellatio said:
i_the_sky said:
Support Stitt, my ass! When he starts supporting his players I might think about but pretty sure I won't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is not Montana! =Colorado school of mines, maybe. You can't fly like an eagle when led by a turkie

I don't post much on here but I have to say get over yourself. It seems that every thread on here for the past week you have said that Stitt doesn't support his players because Strong got suspended. Multiple people have tried to explain the code of conduct procedures to you but you are so thick headed that it doesn't get through. Now I am not sure if I support Stitt or not, the jury is still out, but I in no way hold this against him since it was out of his hands.

I don't disagree with you, but I have yet to see a good explanation, or any real explanation, of why the code of conduct requires a 2-game suspension.
I agree. He should have been suspended indefinitely. His poor decisions didn’t just take him out of the starting line up, it caused a big distraction for the team that came out flatter than a pancake. And now, if he’s charged, it will be another distraction that could have been minimized if suspended from the get go
 
AZDoc said:
It's interesting watching this unfold...
I'm certain if someone dug up the end of season posts form 2016 or beginning of the season this year, how many said "if Stitt can go 7-4 next year he should get another year", and where they are posting now. Does the season suck overall...yes. But there is a chance to go 8-3 or 7-4. My opinion is 7-4 he gets 1 more year, but would be required to make some changes. 6-5, well then obviously that's not going to work.
The Griz have lost their senior starting QB, that honestly, was something special this year. There is no denying what that kid was in the process of doing. GJ is going to be something special, but at any level it's tough for a freshman to understand the game, then come in and see the speed of the game.
Defensively, it's a zoo. Lost a key DT, starting safety, and lack depth at certain positions. I think the coaching has improved, although really only 1 game to look at stats in that regard. Special teams...I'm seriously thinking about calling BH and asking to spend time with him to learn some special teams...and then applying for the job. Holy crap man. I bet northern would run better kick returns than the Griz against the same opponents.
I am a Stitt supporter for 1 more season only...as long as they do not end up 6-5. I think he needs to make important coaching changes in the off season, including getting Andy Thompson here as DC if he doesn't get the HC job at NAU. Let's support these guys through this. Griz Nation is amazing and they feed of the fans. GO GRIZ!

So Phillips, a 5th year senior who started three football games in his career, with two of those starts against body bag teams, and the other one against a solid FBS team in which he could not even score a single point...... gives you the info to state "there is no denying what that kid was in the process of doing"??? Talk about hyperbole!

I have nothing against Phillips as a QB, only against people anointing him as a star with no basis for doing so. He might have ended-up being a great QB, but no reasonable person could say that based upon his body of work.
 
fanofzoo said:
kemajic said:
reinell30 said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
Ya and when we fumble the kid comes off the field laughing.

Maybe why Stitt doesn't use JLM on Kickoff returns is so he doesn't hurt from the protection being so bad?
Correct; when was the last time you saw a block on one of our KO returns?

And when was the last time time you saw a returner NOT stop at the first wave, can't the "coach" look at MM returns?
Sorry irrelevant answer, they had blocking then.

We have not has a decent punt or KO return team since Mariani left. Remember the days of Heidlberger, Seegers,Tuff Harris, and MM? Those days are long gone, my friend. Now, getting to the 20 on a KO return without a fumble or holding penalty is a "good play"!
 
garizzalies said:
PlayerRep said:
debellatio said:
i_the_sky said:
Support Stitt, my ass! When he starts supporting his players I might think about but pretty sure I won't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is not Montana! =Colorado school of mines, maybe. You can't fly like an eagle when led by a turkie

I don't post much on here but I have to say get over yourself. It seems that every thread on here for the past week you have said that Stitt doesn't support his players because Strong got suspended. Multiple people have tried to explain the code of conduct procedures to you but you are so thick headed that it doesn't get through. Now I am not sure if I support Stitt or not, the jury is still out, but I in no way hold this against him since it was out of his hands.

I don't disagree with you, but I have yet to see a good explanation, or any real explanation, of why the code of conduct requires a 2-game suspension.
I agree. He should have been suspended indefinitely. His poor decisions didn’t just take him out of the starting line up, it caused a big distraction for the team that came out flatter than a pancake. And now, if he’s charged, it will be another distraction that could have been minimized if suspended from the get go

I guess the Strong thing kind of bursts the bubble about Stitt only recruiting stellar citizens. Not blaming Stitt for Strong's actions, just understand that no coach is immune from his player's transgressions, and some use that talking point to justify why we should keep Stitt.
 
whitefishbear said:
AZDoc said:
It's interesting watching this unfold...
I'm certain if someone dug up the end of season posts form 2016 or beginning of the season this year, how many said "if Stitt can go 7-4 next year he should get another year", and where they are posting now. Does the season suck overall...yes. But there is a chance to go 8-3 or 7-4. My opinion is 7-4 he gets 1 more year, but would be required to make some changes. 6-5, well then obviously that's not going to work.
The Griz have lost their senior starting QB, that honestly, was something special this year. There is no denying what that kid was in the process of doing. GJ is going to be something special, but at any level it's tough for a freshman to understand the game, then come in and see the speed of the game.
Defensively, it's a zoo. Lost a key DT, starting safety, and lack depth at certain positions. I think the coaching has improved, although really only 1 game to look at stats in that regard. Special teams...I'm seriously thinking about calling BH and asking to spend time with him to learn some special teams...and then applying for the job. Holy crap man. I bet northern would run better kick returns than the Griz against the same opponents.
I am a Stitt supporter for 1 more season only...as long as they do not end up 6-5. I think he needs to make important coaching changes in the off season, including getting Andy Thompson here as DC if he doesn't get the HC job at NAU. Let's support these guys through this. Griz Nation is amazing and they feed of the fans. GO GRIZ!

So Phillips, a 5th year senior who started three football games in his career, with two of those starts against body bag teams, and the other one against a solid FBS team in which he could not even score a single point...... gives you the info to state "there is no denying what that kid was in the process of doing"??? Talk about hyperbole!

I have nothing against Phillips as a QB, only against people anointing him as a star with no basis for doing so. He might have ended-up being a great QB, but no reasonable person could say that based upon his body of work.

There was plenty of basis for those who watched the games, the practices, the scrimmages, in fall and spring and even last year when it was clear that he had a great arm even before he learned the offense--and had talked to the coaches. No anointed RP for anything, but it was clear that he was on his way to having a great season for knowledgeable fans who were paying close attention. He also seemed to be developing into a very strong leader.
 
I cant continue to support Stitt if he doesn't let go of Semore, and I have supported Stitt to a fault up until this point.

The only thing to me that could save Semores job at this point is running the table..and making the playoffs with dominant defensive performances, which it may take now that were on our 3rd string QB.

Semores defense allowed Weber points on every single fucking possession in the 1st half..I dont care what happens the 2nd half, with that type of first you are screwing yourself. Yes people will say that the offense didnt help which is the case, but if the defense gets just 1-2 stops in the first half its a completely different ball game.
 
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AZDoc said:
It's interesting watching this unfold...
I'm certain if someone dug up the end of season posts form 2016 or beginning of the season this year, how many said "if Stitt can go 7-4 next year he should get another year", and where they are posting now. Does the season suck overall...yes. But there is a chance to go 8-3 or 7-4. My opinion is 7-4 he gets 1 more year, but would be required to make some changes. 6-5, well then obviously that's not going to work.
The Griz have lost their senior starting QB, that honestly, was something special this year. There is no denying what that kid was in the process of doing. GJ is going to be something special, but at any level it's tough for a freshman to understand the game, then come in and see the speed of the game.
Defensively, it's a zoo. Lost a key DT, starting safety, and lack depth at certain positions. I think the coaching has improved, although really only 1 game to look at stats in that regard. Special teams...I'm seriously thinking about calling BH and asking to spend time with him to learn some special teams...and then applying for the job. Holy crap man. I bet northern would run better kick returns than the Griz against the same opponents.
I am a Stitt supporter for 1 more season only...as long as they do not end up 6-5. I think he needs to make important coaching changes in the off season, including getting Andy Thompson here as DC if he doesn't get the HC job at NAU. Let's support these guys through this. Griz Nation is amazing and they feed of the fans. GO GRIZ!
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
I cant continue to support Stitt if he doesn't let go of Semore, and I have supported Stitt to a fault up until this point.

The only thing to me that could save Semores job at this point is running the table..and making the playoffs with dominant defensive performances, which it may take now that were on our 3rd string QB.

Semores defense allowed Weber points on every single f***[*] possession in the 1st half..I dont care what happens the 2nd half, with that type of first you are screwing yourself. Yes people will say that the offense didnt help which is the case, but if the defense gets just 1-2 stops in the first half its a completely different ball game.
Weber's total offense in the game was 298 yards. Our first four offensive possessions produced 3 3-and-outs and an interception. And we punted badly. So what kind of field position do you think Weber enjoyed? It was sloppy offense and ST play that put us in that hole, not the defense. Our defense has been lousy this year, but in another post I showed that it is getting better and hanging the Weber debacle on the D is way off base.
 
ranco said:
daGrizJ said:
That game was a perfect shit storm from the first 1/4. Stitt did not throw 3 bad INTs. (Jensen finally had his "freshman" game. I don't care. He will be a super Griz QB. I hope he is OK.) Stitt did not fumble twice giving a short field and losing a late score. Stitt did not commit 2 targeting/disqualifying penalties that lost two key players. One who was filling in for the idiot shit Strong did. (Both, IMO, were called correct and completely the fault of the players.) Stitt and Semore put their players in position to make plays for most of the game. "No comment" on the refs. The last three recruiting classes are outstanding. I continue to support this entire staff no matter how the season works out from here.

Yes, but those are mistakes that under prepared and under motivated teams make. They are mistakes that differentiate a 5-6 team from a 9-2 team. I do lay the blame for how the Griz performed in the first half at the hands of the coaches. They had two weeks to prepare and the first two offensive series looked like they had an afternoon to prepare. I will give the coaches credit for the much improved second half performance. If that kind of performance can be carried over in the next 3 games, I will want Stitt to have another year; but if we revert back to that first half performance or the Cat performance of last year, then it will be time to cut bait.

Ranco, I am not disagreeing with you, but if you have time, can you explain why you think the big UM mistakes against Weber were the result of being under prepared or under motivated? Would like to see your analysis. I don't really know where the mistakes came from other than the qb mistakes were from a redshirt frosh, the KO mistakes were from a redshirt frosh, and the 2 targeting penalties were from seniors, one of whom has been here only 2 years. The penalty on the sideline, which I didn't think was much of a penalty, was from a redshirt frosh. I'm not blaming this all on inexperience, by the way.
 
kemajic said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
I cant continue to support Stitt if he doesn't let go of Semore, and I have supported Stitt to a fault up until this point.

The only thing to me that could save Semores job at this point is running the table..and making the playoffs with dominant defensive performances, which it may take now that were on our 3rd string QB.

Semores defense allowed Weber points on every single f***[*] possession in the 1st half..I dont care what happens the 2nd half, with that type of first you are screwing yourself. Yes people will say that the offense didnt help which is the case, but if the defense gets just 1-2 stops in the first half its a completely different ball game.
Weber's total offense in the game was 298 yards. Our first four offensive possessions produced 3 3-and-outs and an interception. And we punted badly. So what kind of field position do you think Weber enjoyed? It was sloppy offense and ST play that put us in that hole, not the defense. Our defense has been lousy this year, but in another post I showed that it is getting better and hanging the Weber debacle on the D is way off base.

I agree but the difference is that our offense has always put up the points and yards to win every game. Which is generally more than 35 because our defense cant hold people under that.
 

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