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I hope those 45 seconds were worth it Jordy

tnt said:
GrizPony said:
Was she looking for sex when she said she would do him anytime the night before? You have to be a little more balanced to hide your agenda. Truly.

Dunno, didn't hear that in the trial but even if it did happen, was what she got the next night what she looking for? The fact is the trial has proven clearly that the discussion 75 and I had months ago was the closest thing to truth on these boards. If the picture Paoli painted of a seriously disturbed woman with obvious problems before the "act" is true, then JJ who seriously pursuing a relationship with another going to that house that night was indeed predatory.

Balanced? What needs to be balanced? JJ screwed up his life and a lot of others for a quick bang. It was and is stupid. And no matter which "side" (that seems to be more important to one than the other) is right the damage is done and permanent.
So, if I got this right, If a girl tells you she will give it to you even though you are thinking about getting together with another and you have sex with said girl then you are a predator. I doubt JJ knew she was disturbed as Paoli pointed out as he is not a psychologist. And what does it say of her that she is stringing along a boyfriend from the past while hooking up with JJ?

Finally, I feel sorry for some of you morally superior a$$holes who must have been to busy studying the bible and volunteering at the church instead of out having fun in high school and college so that you now feel that you are of such high character you can stand in judgement of this young man and his character. Because the rest of us were out drinking and chasing ass.
 
EverettGriz said:
Fascinating!

So the girl gets a pass for being hammered, but Griz players do not, spokaneman?

Your illogic is showing.

Nothing happened when she was "hammered" other than some mystery comments that were not entered into testimony.... no criminal activity... to tasing... no nothing.... so what is there to give her a pass on??
 
You see, EG, Spokaneman has a very small attention span and gets confused easily. For the record, or should I say from the record, neither side has contended that the parties were drunk when this happened. The actions she took, under complete sobriety, at her house, indicate she wanted him to know she was available for sex. Further, does anyone think a rapist would see "opportunity" as being in the house with her male roommates there? That doesn't add up. If he was an "alcohol fueled predator" why didn't he make a move when she picked him up at his house, where no one was around?
 
spokaneman said:
tnt said:
If the picture Paoli painted of a seriously disturbed woman with obvious problems before the "act" is true, then JJ who seriously pursuing a relationship with another going to that house that night was indeed predatory.

Even for the most ardent Griz fan... there is a lot to consider in the above statement....
So...JJ should know she was disturbed (evidently JJ got a degree in clinical psychology while in high school) but her family didn't, as her mother testified. Sounds legit.
 
spokaneman said:
GrizPony said:
tnt said:
EverettGriz said:
I do find very interesting, as the trial has progressed, observing the behavior and demeanor of those who were the loudest and most adament concerning UM's "thug culture".

They've gone from essentially saying that UM athletes are thugs, rapists and -- what was tnt's classic quote -- something along the lines of "alcohol feuled predators" to saying, "Boy, those boys are bad because they want sex".

Fascinating study into their agenda-driven posts.


Alcohol fueled predator was the term. I think some of you guys call it making game or minimize it further. he went looking for sex and he made sure to go where he could get/take it. Whether it rises to "rape" as most of us have been saying is the question. He is still pretty low in the character category. Too bad her didn't learn anything in all of his "Bible Study" What I find an interesting study is those that have figured out what a tragedy that JJ's of NSA sex menatilty is to both sides.

Was she looking for sex when she said she would do him anytime the night before? You have to be a little more balanced to hide your agenda. Truly.

Honestly - it is sad that you cannot understand the difference between the actions of a girl who is drunk at the biggest party on campus and the same girl when she is completely sober.... A strong message as to why the drinking age is 21....

Was she drunk the night in question? Did she forget JJ was with another girl the night before when she agreed to watch a movie in her bedroom? If it is unfair to judge a woman when she is drinking, shouldn't JJ get a pass because he had been drinking the night in question? Maybe she preyed on him after he was drinking? All I am saying is you have such a crazy ass bias that you can't even see the other side. Just like tnt, who quite frankly, is NOT DYNOMITE!! (Jimmie JJ Walker reference)
 
EverettGriz said:
Fascinating!

So the girl gets a pass for being hammered, but Griz players do not, spokaneman?

Your illogic is showing.
Yes, evidently women can only be victims. :roll:
 
RobGriz said:
Finally, I feel sorry for some of you morally superior a$$holes who must have been to busy studying the bible and volunteering at the church instead of out having fun in high school and college.

Do you REALLY feel sorry for some of us a$$holes for not putting ourselves in a position that would ruin our lives and devastate our families??... Really??.... I would bet JJ would trade places with me in an instant.. I was a slow fat lineman and I bet my bottom dollar that he would not think twice...
 
RobGriz said:
spokaneman said:
tnt said:
If the picture Paoli painted of a seriously disturbed woman with obvious problems before the "act" is true, then JJ who seriously pursuing a relationship with another going to that house that night was indeed predatory.

Even for the most ardent Griz fan... there is a lot to consider in the above statement....
So...JJ should know she was disturbed (evidently JJ got a degree in clinical psychology while in high school) but her family didn't, as her mother testified. Sounds legit.

Its sounded pretty clear to me what the mom thought.....

But even when they figure out what to do when the hung Jury comes in. The question of how the indiscriminate ass chasing, drinking and bad decisions on players parts that so many of you choose to defend and even admire while those in leadership look elsewhere has worked our for the program is ALREADY answered.
 
tnt said:
RobGriz said:
spokaneman said:
tnt said:
If the picture Paoli painted of a seriously disturbed woman with obvious problems before the "act" is true, then JJ who seriously pursuing a relationship with another going to that house that night was indeed predatory.

Even for the most ardent Griz fan... there is a lot to consider in the above statement....
So...JJ should know she was disturbed (evidently JJ got a degree in clinical psychology while in high school) but her family didn't, as her mother testified. Sounds legit.

Its sounded pretty clear to me what the mom thought.....

But even when they figure out what to do when the hung Jury comes in. The question of how the indiscriminate ass chasing, drinking and bad decisions on players parts that so many of you choose to defend and even admire while those in leadership look elsewhere has worked our for the program is ALREADY answered.

College age guys drinking and chasing girls???? OMG, what is this disgusting world coming to?
 
I'm more than a little concerned with how adament a few people -- mostly those like tnt, spokaneman, etc are that this is going to be a hung jury.

Do they have someone on the jury who will vote guilty on the jury no matter what? Has there been tampering? It's very, very odd.
 
tnt said:
RobGriz said:
spokaneman said:
tnt said:
If the picture Paoli painted of a seriously disturbed woman with obvious problems before the "act" is true, then JJ who seriously pursuing a relationship with another going to that house that night was indeed predatory.

Even for the most ardent Griz fan... there is a lot to consider in the above statement....
So...JJ should know she was disturbed (evidently JJ got a degree in clinical psychology while in high school) but her family didn't, as her mother testified. Sounds legit.

Its sounded pretty clear to me what the mom thought.....

But even when they figure out what to do when the hung Jury comes in. The question of how the indiscriminate ass chasing, drinking and bad decisions on players parts that so many of you choose to defend and even admire while those in leadership look elsewhere has worked our for the program is ALREADY answered.

Careful, your desperation is starting to show in your run-on, unintelligible postings. Frantic much? Is your agenda showing? Your theory is undone, tidy up!
 
Buttegrizzle said:
You see, EG, Spokaneman has a very small attention span and gets confused easily. For the record, or should I say from the record, neither side has contended that the parties were drunk when this happened. The actions she took, under complete sobriety, at her house, indicate she wanted him to know she was available for sex. Further, does anyone think a rapist would see "opportunity" as being in the house with her male roommates there? That doesn't add up. If he was an "alcohol fueled predator" why didn't he make a move when she picked him up at his house, where no one was around?

I take it back... and it pains me to admit this, but I guess there are some in Butte who are that dumb!!

Listen dumba$$.... there are at least 3 things in your above statement to be false according to the testimony of the ACTUAL FRIGGEN TRIAL.... so lets not be too free with "who get confused easily" tag...If you are too friggen stupid to keep up... just read along at your own pace!!
 
tnt said:
So you believe this is the same???


I believe that's what took place, yes.

I think 9 days of testimony have proven just that.

But as I stated earlier, I don't expect any amount of testimony to sway you from your appointed agenda.
 
tnt said:
RobGriz said:
spokaneman said:
tnt said:
If the picture Paoli painted of a seriously disturbed woman with obvious problems before the "act" is true, then JJ who seriously pursuing a relationship with another going to that house that night was indeed predatory.

Even for the most ardent Griz fan... there is a lot to consider in the above statement....
So...JJ should know she was disturbed (evidently JJ got a degree in clinical psychology while in high school) but her family didn't, as her mother testified. Sounds legit.

Its sounded pretty clear to me what the mom thought.....

But even when they figure out what to do when the hung Jury comes in. The question of how the indiscriminate ass chasing, drinking and bad decisions on players parts that so many of you choose to defend and even admire while those in leadership look elsewhere has worked our for the program is ALREADY answered.
Wow, I detect a note of desperation in good ol' tnt. Your house of cards falling apart around you... Your most treasured predjudices being strained in the cold light of the judicial process. You derserve pity if nothing else.
 
tnt said:
RobGriz said:
spokaneman said:
tnt said:
If the picture Paoli painted of a seriously disturbed woman with obvious problems before the "act" is true, then JJ who seriously pursuing a relationship with another going to that house that night was indeed predatory.

Even for the most ardent Griz fan... there is a lot to consider in the above statement....
So...JJ should know she was disturbed (evidently JJ got a degree in clinical psychology while in high school) but her family didn't, as her mother testified. Sounds legit.

Its sounded pretty clear to me what the mom thought.....

But even when they figure out what to do when the hung Jury comes in. The question of how the indiscriminate ass chasing, drinking and bad decisions on players parts that so many of you choose to defend and even admire while those in leadership look elsewhere has worked our for the program is ALREADY answered.


you got beat up a lot in college, didn't you? By the cool kids...? and now you're a bitter old fuck wad?


rhetorical questions, your honor....withdrawn.
 
EverettGriz said:
I'm more than a little concerned with how adament a few people -- mostly those like tnt, spokaneman, etc are that this is going to be a hung jury.

Do they have someone on the jury who will vote guilty on the jury no matter what? Has there been tampering? It's very, very odd.

Yeah that is a little telling isn't it? These agenda types run in packs and can smell one of their own. They may have one sniffed out that is on this jury.
 
spokaneman said:
RobGriz said:
Finally, I feel sorry for some of you morally superior a$$holes who must have been to busy studying the bible and volunteering at the church instead of out having fun in high school and college.

Do you REALLY feel sorry for some of us a$$holes for not putting ourselves in a position that would ruin our lives and devastate our families??... Really??.... I would bet JJ would trade places with me in an instant.. I was a slow fat lineman and I bet my bottom dollar that he would not think twice...
No, not really. And I was a slow fat lineman and I still got laid.
 
spokaneman said:
Buttegrizzle said:
You see, EG, Spokaneman has a very small attention span and gets confused easily. For the record, or should I say from the record, neither side has contended that the parties were drunk when this happened. The actions she took, under complete sobriety, at her house, indicate she wanted him to know she was available for sex. Further, does anyone think a rapist would see "opportunity" as being in the house with her male roommates there? That doesn't add up. If he was an "alcohol fueled predator" why didn't he make a move when she picked him up at his house, where no one was around?

I take it back... and it pains me to admit this, but I guess there are some in Butte who are that dumb!!

Listen dumba$$.... there are at least 3 things in your above statement to be false according to the testimony of the ACTUAL FRIGGEN TRIAL.... so lets not be too free with "who get confused easily" tag...If you are too friggen stupid to keep up... just read along at your own pace!!

Enlighten me as to what those three things are, oh Greatly Agitated One?
 
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