How is this team 7-2??

[WyomingGrizFan]

I no doubt believe that cat fans were saying how bad the griz were and how they'd lose to app. I could also find griz here saying what a powerhouse app would be.
but in the real world, many fans I know and talk to, both cats and griz looked at our schedules and felt they were pretty easy. sure, we didn't know app would be this terrible.

Well hardly anyone thought Appalachian State, coming off an 8 - 4 season, 6 - 2 in the Southern Conference tied for first (2012), with eighteen starters back from the previous year wouldn't be considered being at least #12 in the 2013 FCS preseaon poll.

http://www.gobison.com/news/2013/6/15/FB_0615133123.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Lindy's June FCS 2013 preseason poll)

http://www.soconsports.com/fls/4000/socon/FB_Media%20Center/QuickFacts/APP%20FB%20QF%202013.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=4000" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (with ten starters mentioned returning on offense and six on defense)

I mean, why would a team that was ranked #12 in the 2011 FCS Final Poll: http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2012-01-09/fcs-final-top-25-poll" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...and #8 in the FCS Final 2012 Coaches Poll, with the majority of their starters (18) back for the following year (2013), not be considered at least a Top Fifteen Team for the 2013 season? http://www.soconsports.com/fls/4000/socon/FCS/polls/2012/2012_FCS_Coaches_Poll/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And nowadays can't get one vote for the Top 25 with a 2 - 7 record. But before the season started?

 

[George Ferguson]

THis team is 7-2 because they beat App. State, North Dakota, Panhandle State, Portland State, UC Davis, Cal Poly and Sacramento State and lost to Northern Arizona and Eastern Washington :thumb:

 

[AZGrizFan]

THis team is 7-2 because they beat App. State, North Dakota, Panhandle State, Portland State, UC Davis, Cal Poly and Sacramento State and lost to Northern Arizona and Eastern Washington :thumb:

But HOW did they do it with all the major parts of the team sucking so bad according to posters here?

 

[grizatwork]

Better question - How is this team not 9-0?

We have the players, coaching has not put them in positions to win (against good teams).

no doubt about it. How can there be so many missed tackles 9 games into the season? The O Line was supposed to be the best in the FCS, it arguably isn't even the best in the BSC, and has NOT improved. The vaunted D of Coach Gregorak is not fooling anyone. All one has to do is look at the yardage and points the Griz are giving up. The D Backs, well, ugly is the only word that comes to mind. If the talent isn't there, that falls on the coaches and recruiting. Tell me the other schools in our league have more to offer so they are getting better kids back there. Sorry, don't think so.

To me, it is coaching. I don't care how nice the guys are, the program is going downhill with the current staff. That said, I want them to win, but for the players, period.

My sentiments exactly. Part of me wanted them to lose out to guarantee a new staff. I WANT AN OUTSIDE SEARCH! SAVE ME FROM THE GRIZ FAMILY BS. I do want them to win out, because I want the players to succeed and do well because of how hard they work. I appreciate all that the current staff has done given all that has swirled around the program, but I think a fresh start after this year is needed, and a perfect time to do it.

 

[PlayerRep]

well I agree I was just using numbers to back up my claims. the quality of our opponents have been terrible. many knew going into the season that both the cats and griz had ridiculously easy schedules. I don't even think nau is very good but i'll save that for another day. I think we have one quality opponent so far and that is ewu. they beat you guys. they might beat us too. then we can argue for the next two weeks on who played ewu tougher and why that means they'll win the brawl. :lol:

I don't agree that either UM or MSU have easy schedules. Playing in the Big Sky with the new teams is difficult. Look at EWU's margins of victory in the conference: 22, 21, 24, 5, and 21. Nice enough margins, but not exactly blowouts. Even games against the bad teams in the conference can be tough--i.e. No Colo last weeks for MSU. I know of zero people who said UM or MSU had an easy schedule prior to the season. I eventually grew up in Bozeman and my family still lives there, so I know alot of Bozeman people and Cat fans. NAU is a good team. 4 of the top 14 teams in the poll are Big Sky teams.

 

[ilovethecats]

well I agree I was just using numbers to back up my claims. the quality of our opponents have been terrible. many knew going into the season that both the cats and griz had ridiculously easy schedules. I don't even think nau is very good but i'll save that for another day. I think we have one quality opponent so far and that is ewu. they beat you guys. they might beat us too. then we can argue for the next two weeks on who played ewu tougher and why that means they'll win the brawl. :lol:

I don't agree that either UM or MSU have easy schedules. Playing in the Big Sky with the new teams is difficult. Look at EWU's margins of victory in the conference: 22, 21, 24, 5, and 21. Nice enough margins, but not exactly blowouts. Even games against the bad teams in the conference can be tough--i.e. No Colo last weeks for MSU. I know of zero people who said UM or MSU had an easy schedule prior to the season. I eventually grew up in Bozeman and my family still lives there, so I know alot of Bozeman people and Cat fans. NAU is a good team. 4 of the top 14 teams in the poll are Big Sky teams.

nice. I still live in Bozeman and have heard many people talk about our easy schedule. I remember several conversations on the golf course discussing fears of not being prepared for the end of the season because of our competition. we knew finishing with ewu and um 2 of our last 3 would be difficult. but as I said...we've played exactly 2 teams with winning records and one of those was Colorado mesa. you wont hear me talking up our difficult schedule.

if you think the griz and cats have played a tough schedule I won't argue with you...

 

[Grizzlies1982]

THis team is 7-2 because they beat App. State, North Dakota, Panhandle State, Portland State, UC Davis, Cal Poly and Sacramento State and lost to Northern Arizona and Eastern Washington :thumb:

But HOW did they do it with all the major parts of the team sucking so bad according to posters here?

Ah, Weedhopper I've enlarged above the source of your confusion.
Basing anything on "according to posters here" is just a recipe for disaster. The occasional nugget of actual information occasionally slips through. Yet several posters here work diligently to ensure those mistakes are few and far between.
:ugeek:

 

[WyomingGrizFan]

Ah, Weedhopper...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[PlayerRep]

well I agree I was just using numbers to back up my claims. the quality of our opponents have been terrible. many knew going into the season that both the cats and griz had ridiculously easy schedules. I don't even think nau is very good but i'll save that for another day. I think we have one quality opponent so far and that is ewu. they beat you guys. they might beat us too. then we can argue for the next two weeks on who played ewu tougher and why that means they'll win the brawl. :lol:

I don't agree that either UM or MSU have easy schedules. Playing in the Big Sky with the new teams is difficult. Look at EWU's margins of victory in the conference: 22, 21, 24, 5, and 21. Nice enough margins, but not exactly blowouts. Even games against the bad teams in the conference can be tough--i.e. No Colo last weeks for MSU. I know of zero people who said UM or MSU had an easy schedule prior to the season. I eventually grew up in Bozeman and my family still lives there, so I know alot of Bozeman people and Cat fans. NAU is a good team. 4 of the top 14 teams in the poll are Big Sky teams.

nice. I still live in Bozeman and have heard many people talk about our easy schedule. I remember several conversations on the golf course discussing fears of not being prepared for the end of the season because of our competition. we knew finishing with ewu and um 2 of our last 3 would be difficult. but as I said...we've played exactly 2 teams with winning records and one of those was Colorado mesa. you wont hear me talking up our difficult schedule.

if you think the griz and cats have played a tough schedule I won't argue with you...

If the people who you listened to think the Cat schedule is easy, then they must think the Big Sky conference is easy. I don't. That's the bulk of the schedule. Many teams play D-II teams most every year. Monmouth is not great, but not awful. SMU isn't good this year, but they are FBS. Don't know how your buds or whoever they are, can say this is an "easy" schedule.

I don't believe the strength of schedule in football is an important element of doing well in the playoffs, as long as there are several very challenging games. Other factors are more important, including getting on a roll at the right time, playing with confidence and being healthy.

Look, I disagreed with you who said the two teams had played an "easy" schedule. I said the Big Sky is a difficult conference. That's not the same as saying they have played a "tough schedule". Please don't tell us that you don't understand the differences between these things.

 

[Grizbacker1]

well I agree I was just using numbers to back up my claims. the quality of our opponents have been terrible. many knew going into the season that both the cats and griz had ridiculously easy schedules. I don't even think nau is very good but i'll save that for another day. I think we have one quality opponent so far and that is ewu. they beat you guys. they might beat us too. then we can argue for the next two weeks on who played ewu tougher and why that means they'll win the brawl. :lol:

I don't agree that either UM or MSU have easy schedules. Playing in the Big Sky with the new teams is difficult. Look at EWU's margins of victory in the conference: 22, 21, 24, 5, and 21. Nice enough margins, but not exactly blowouts. Even games against the bad teams in the conference can be tough--i.e. No Colo last weeks for MSU. I know of zero people who said UM or MSU had an easy schedule prior to the season. I eventually grew up in Bozeman and my family still lives there, so I know alot of Bozeman people and Cat fans. NAU is a good team. 4 of the top 14 teams in the poll are Big Sky teams.

4 out of 5 games are 3 TD margins, those are blowouts

 

[PlayerRep]

well I agree I was just using numbers to back up my claims. the quality of our opponents have been terrible. many knew going into the season that both the cats and griz had ridiculously easy schedules. I don't even think nau is very good but i'll save that for another day. I think we have one quality opponent so far and that is ewu. they beat you guys. they might beat us too. then we can argue for the next two weeks on who played ewu tougher and why that means they'll win the brawl. :lol:

I don't agree that either UM or MSU have easy schedules. Playing in the Big Sky with the new teams is difficult. Look at EWU's margins of victory in the conference: 22, 21, 24, 5, and 21. Nice enough margins, but not exactly blowouts. Even games against the bad teams in the conference can be tough--i.e. No Colo last weeks for MSU. I know of zero people who said UM or MSU had an easy schedule prior to the season. I eventually grew up in Bozeman and my family still lives there, so I know alot of Bozeman people and Cat fans. NAU is a good team. 4 of the top 14 teams in the poll are Big Sky teams.

4 out of 5 games are 3 TD margins, those are blowouts

Maybe in your parlance, but not in mine. 3 TD's a nice margin, and not a close game, but usually not considered a blow out in my mind.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Actually, other than EWU beating OSU, has any BSC won a game of any significance? I am not really sure if the BSC is that good or not.

 

[pussycatkillerz]

THis team is 7-2 because they beat App. State, North Dakota, Panhandle State, Portland State, UC Davis, Cal Poly and Sacramento State and lost to Northern Arizona and Eastern Washington :thumb:

But HOW did they do it with all the major parts of the team sucking so bad according to posters here?

That's easy

Because we sucked less than App. State, North Dakota, Panhandle State, Portland State, UC Davis, Cal Poly and Sacramento State
BUT
sucked more than Northern Arizona and Eastern Washington

The ratio of sucking less : sucking more leads me to believe this team has a good possibility to suck less than the remaining teams on our schedule.

 

[mtgrizfankb]

Honestly this team has heart. Since the panhandling game this team has not played a full game.(which is common in football) if the o and d came to play we could see how great this team is. Multiple players have said it. Between injuries and miscommunication this team has played a full game since the beginning of the year. Both sides have been impressive at times. The o has put up a ton of points, the d has struggled a little but is getting turnovers. We are not turning the ball over. Honestly this team is every bit as good as anyone in the bigsky. They haven't put it all back together yet. But they believe in each other. I have talked to many players that have all said the only game they felt like they weren't believing in was nau. They trust each other and feed of each other. They are 7-2...with a loss to #3 and a let down game. Don't stop believing guys cause this team had the power with this offense and the capable players on d to put together a hell of a run. If you think those seniors on D are gonna not want the playoffs and the beat the cats...think again.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Ah, Weedhopper...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Hey now. I haven't touched that stuff in YEARS... Honest, officer...

 

[ATLCAT]

I'm not sure how you've escaped the past two opponents but I am certain that you'll lose to the next three. The dumpster fire that your program has been for the past several years has calmed down a little but in the end of 2013, it'll be a full on landfill explosion.

Best of luck, schmucks!

 

[AZGrizFan]

I'm not sure how you've escaped the past two opponents but I am certain that you'll lose to the next three. The dumpster fire that your program has been for the past several years has calmed down a little but in the end of 2013, it'll be a full on landfill explosion.

Best of luck, schmucks!

That's the spirit! :thumb:

 

[grizindabox]

I'm not sure how you've escaped the past two opponents but I am certain that you'll lose to the next three. The dumpster fire that your program has been for the past several years has calmed down a little but in the end of 2013, it'll be a full on landfill explosion.

Best of luck, schmucks!

Think I have seen this post before...went something like this

I'm not sure how you've escaped the past [insert number of games played] opponents but I am certain that you'll lose to the next [insert number of games remaining]. The dumpster fire that your program has been for the past several years has calmed down a little but in the end of 2013, it'll be a full on landfill explosion.

Best of luck, schmucks!

 

[IdaGriz01]

Here are some hard stats as to why the Griz are 7-2. First, as an earlier poster mentioned, JJ is one big reason. He is now #7 in passing efficiency (one of those funky composite formulas). Johnson’s completion percentage isn’t so hot, at 58%, but that’s probably why he has just 1 interception in 251 attempts.

Which brings up another plus for the Griz: They’ve won the turnover battle. They’ve given up 8 turnovers and won 24 (11 fumbles recovered, 13 passes intercepted). Net: +16. Pretty good.

Finally, the Griz are tied for 4th in Red Zone Defense. Only Yale, Central Arkansas, and Southern Utah are better at turning back opponents when they get into the red zone.

 

[Htowngriz]

Here are some hard stats as to why the Griz are 7-2. First, as an earlier poster mentioned, JJ is one big reason. He is now #7 in passing efficiency (one of those funky composite formulas). Johnson’s completion percentage isn’t so hot, at 58%, but that’s probably why he has just 1 interception in 251 attempts.

Which brings up another plus for the Griz: They’ve won the turnover battle. They’ve given up 8 turnovers and won 24 (11 fumbles recovered, 13 passes intercepted). Net: +16. Pretty good.

Finally, the Griz are tied for 4th in Red Zone Defense. Only Yale, Central Arkansas, and Southern Utah are better at turning back opponents when they get into the red zone.

The Griz are actually second only to Sacred Heart in FCS in turnover margin. Incredible turnaround from last year's debacle in that department. :clap: