Hauck contract

[mthoopsfan]

All I’m saying is the fact that there is no extension means Kent is not happy and Boobie needs to earn it this year or possibly Boobie is not happy snd going to hang it up after this season.

You are wrong on all points.

 

[mthoopsfan]

Enough of stirring the pot.

it is a legitimate discussion, and very relevant for the future of the program. hauck has significantly underperformed, as per his teams' big sky performance, and exits from the playoffs when faced with competition that actually belongs there. enough of trying to keep the narrative to your liking.

You are wrong on all points too.

 

[griznative24]

My question for you all is this: If bobby retires or is let go, and thats a big if, who would UofM be able to hire? Expectations: through the roof. Pay: low. Cost of living: high. Location: somewhat isolated. I don't know the intricacies of colleges hiring coaches, but I imagine that the pool will be relatively small. Thoughts?

Most of Griz world would tell you the pool is enormous and anyone can come in and have instant success...even though the past 15 years doesn't quite tell the same story.

Most Griz fans think that this is the best job in the country and that anyone would love to coach here. I love the Griz, but the older I get the more rational I am when discussing this team. The last two coaching searches were pretty bleak if I am remembering correctly.

 

[mthoopsfan]

I am a fan of Coach Hauck. I know this thread is mainly satire. But this concern is interesting. If the Griz lose 3 games this fall, for example, do you sign Hauck to a 3 year contract? Or a 1 year extension? I don’t know, and I don’t frankly know the extent of Haslem’s power (boosters and president will have some pull).I do want the Grizzlies to win more games, and ultimately in CFB, that falls on the head man as unfortunate as that is. Coming from someone who has been fired for not winning enough games! I would love it if we were playing in the natty this year and you don’t have to worry about it, but it is worthy of message board discussion. If it weren’t he would have already been given an extension.

Hauck would not sign one-year contract. If Haslam offered that, boosters would run Haslam out of town.

 

[SoldierGriz]

My question for you all is this: If bobby retires or is let go, and thats a big if, who would UofM be able to hire? Expectations: through the roof. Pay: low. Cost of living: high. Location: somewhat isolated. I don't know the intricacies of colleges hiring coaches, but I imagine that the pool will be relatively small. Thoughts?

Expectations are not what you think they are.

Getting into the playoffs and winning the guaranteed home game seems adequate for most of the fan base nowadays.

 

[griznative24]

My question for you all is this: If bobby retires or is let go, and thats a big if, who would UofM be able to hire? Expectations: through the roof. Pay: low. Cost of living: high. Location: somewhat isolated. I don't know the intricacies of colleges hiring coaches, but I imagine that the pool will be relatively small. Thoughts?

Expectations are not what you think they are.

Getting into the playoffs and winning the guaranteed home game seems adequate for most of the fan base nowadays.

Well sh!t, you might be right. My expectations are deep playoff runs and championships. Maybe I'm in the minority

 

[bgbigdog]

Most of Griz world would tell you the pool is enormous and anyone can come in and have instant success...even though the past 15 years doesn't quite tell the same story.

Most Griz fans think that this is the best job in the country and that anyone would love to coach here. I love the Griz, but the older I get the more rational I am when discussing this team. The last two coaching searches were pretty bleak if I am remembering correctly.

You're including bobby as one of the two "bleak" searches? He self-nominated for both of the last two Haslam initiated, Stitt got the first one and he got the second. Stitt was the 'It" guy, when he was hired, whether that was true or not. Haslam was promoted and Delaney was "appointed" because the hour was late. Pflu took them to the semifinals before tragedy struck. And that was another AD.

Eck took the role at Idaho, after they were chased back to FCS status with their tails between their legs, and Petrino nearly ran the program into the ground. He was a pretty successful coordinator at an FCS Bluebood. If he continues to win, he'll be on to the next job with more responsibility and money in the blink of an eye. Montana is an attractive program for those looking to climb the ladder. There won't be any shortage of qualified applicants. And everyone might as well get used to the fact that most of today's coaches are like the rest of us, they want to be compensated for the success and productivity the bring, which often means move up the ladder. Translation, there might be a group of coaches who last five or six seaons, and move on to bigger and better. That only happens when Montana is a winner and the program is shining. The guys who aren't making it won't last, see Bob Stitt. Whomever might be considered, when the time comes, will know all there is to know about expectations, donors and the like. Good coaches are good coaches for a lot of reasons.

You may have missed it, but theres another Hauck in the coaching ranks right now who in five years, when Bobby is reportedly "walking away", might just be in the mix to be the guy.

 

[griznative24]

Most Griz fans think that this is the best job in the country and that anyone would love to coach here. I love the Griz, but the older I get the more rational I am when discussing this team. The last two coaching searches were pretty bleak if I am remembering correctly.

You're including bobby as one of the two "bleak" searches? He self-nominated for both of the last two Haslam initiated, Stitt got the first one and he got the second. Stitt was the 'It" guy, when he was hired, whether that was true or not. Haslam was promoted and Delaney was "appointed" because the hour was late. Pflu took them to the semifinals before tragedy struck. And that was another AD.

Eck topk the role at Idaho, after they were chased back to FCS status with their tails between their legs, and Petrino nearly ran the program into the ground. He was a pretty successful coordinator at an FCS Bluebood. If he continues to win, he'll be on to the next job with more responsibility and money in the blink of an eye. Montana is an attractive program for those looking to climb the ladder. Thee won't be any shortage of qualified applicants. Whomever might be considered, when the time comes, will know all there is to know about expectations, donors and the like. Good coaches are good coaches for a lot of reasons.

You may have missed it, but theres another Hauck in the coaching ranks right now who in five years, when Bobby is reportedly "walking away", might just be in the mix to be the guy.

Didn't include Hauck since he was a coach here before. And if the UofM is in the business of just hiring anyone with the name Hauck, then that proves my point.

 

[argh!]

it is a legitimate discussion, and very relevant for the future of the program. hauck has significantly underperformed, as per his teams' big sky performance, and exits from the playoffs when faced with competition that actually belongs there. enough of trying to keep the narrative to your liking.

You are wrong on all points too.

i am using his team's performance in the big sky as my measuring point, as it should be. also, you are speaking for someone else when you claim that the person who i responded to isn't trying to keep the narrative to their liking. otherwise, it is all just opinion, and your opinion is prolifically pro-hauck, rain or shine. you are more logical when it comes to other subjects.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

You are wrong on all points too.

i am using his team's performance in the big sky as my measuring point, as it should be. also, you are speaking for someone else when you claim that the person who i responded to isn't trying to keep the narrative to their liking. otherwise, it is all just opinion, and your opinion is prolifically pro-hauck, rain or shine. you are more logical when it comes to other subjects.

It could be argued that you are twisting the narrative to your liking.

I am neither hot or cold when it comes to Hauck, and I wasn't that excited when he was hired for the return affair, so I am far from Pro-Hauck.

 

[argh!]

i am using his team's performance in the big sky as my measuring point, as it should be. also, you are speaking for someone else when you claim that the person who i responded to isn't trying to keep the narrative to their liking. otherwise, it is all just opinion, and your opinion is prolifically pro-hauck, rain or shine. you are more logical when it comes to other subjects.

It could be argued that you are twisting the narrative to your liking.

I am neither hot or cold when it comes to Hauck, and I wasn't that excited when he was hired for the return affair, so I am far from Pro-Hauck.

the key word in your post is "twisted". twist away, i don't care.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

It could be argued that you are twisting the narrative to your liking.

I am neither hot or cold when it comes to Hauck, and I wasn't that excited when he was hired for the return affair, so I am far from Pro-Hauck.

the key word in your post is "twisted". twist away, i don't care.

What did I twist? I stated that he has over preformed the previous decade of him getting hired. Is this factually incorrect?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

I will also add that currently, I am not sure this team is better than 7 or 8 wins, and that probably doesn't bode well for BH.

 

[AZGrizFan]

I will also add that currently, I am not sure this team is better than 7 or 8 wins, and that probably doesn't bode well for BH.

Well they SHOULD start out 5-0 like last year...you think they go 2-4 or 3-3 down the stretch? If that happens again I think you're right...that doesn't bode well for BH.

@UC-Davis
@Idaho
Sac State
Bozeman State.

He HAS to go 2-2 in these four games, IMHO. Every other game they should win. IMO, anything worse than 9-2 and his seat should be very hot.

 

[argh!]

the key word in your post is "twisted". twist away, i don't care.

What did I twist? I stated that he has over preformed the previous decade of him getting hired. Is this factually incorrect?

didn't the decade before his current stint include a trip to the national semifinals?

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

What did I twist? I stated that he has over preformed the previous decade of him getting hired. Is this factually incorrect?

didn't the decade before his current stint include a trip to the national semifinals?

Yes, with kids he recruited. How did the other 7 seasons go?

 

[mthoopsfan]

I will also add that currently, I am not sure this team is better than 7 or 8 wins, and that probably doesn't bode well for BH.

Well they SHOULD start out 5-0 like last year...you think they go 2-4 or 3-3 down the stretch? If that happens again I think you're right...that doesn't bode well for BH.

@UC-Davis
@Idaho
Sac State
Bozeman State.

He HAS to go 2-2 in these four games, IMHO. Every other game they should win. IMO, anything worse than 9-2 and his seat should be very hot.

Haha. He wouldn't be on hot seat at 6-5. You need to learn more about Griz football and what the "important" people think about Hauck. Your posts look like jokes.

 

[mthoopsfan]

I will also add that currently, I am not sure this team is better than 7 or 8 wins, and that probably doesn't bode well for BH.

The team will be very good, unless the qb play is deficient. The players like the coaching changes. The o-line should be dominant, or close to it. The D will be very good. It looks like the O thinks it will be very good too.

 

[Missoula223]

I am a fan of Coach Hauck. I know this thread is mainly satire. But this concern is interesting. If the Griz lose 3 games this fall, for example, do you sign Hauck to a 3 year contract? Or a 1 year extension? I don’t know, and I don’t frankly know the extent of Haslem’s power (boosters and president will have some pull).I do want the Grizzlies to win more games, and ultimately in CFB, that falls on the head man as unfortunate as that is. Coming from someone who has been fired for not winning enough games! I would love it if we were playing in the natty this year and you don’t have to worry about it, but it is worthy of message board discussion. If it weren’t he would have already been given an extension.

Hauck would not sign one-year contract. If Haslam offered that, boosters would run Haslam out of town.

Curious as to why that is so outlandish. 1 year extensions aren’t at all rare in college athletics. With 8-3 this year, do you sign him to a 3 year contract? With presumably a large buyout? Typically you only do that after years when you exceed expectations.

 

[mthoopsfan]

You are wrong on all points too.

i am using his team's performance in the big sky as my measuring point, as it should be. also, you are speaking for someone else when you claim that the person who i responded to isn't trying to keep the narrative to their liking. otherwise, it is all just opinion, and your opinion is prolifically pro-hauck, rain or shine. you are more logical when it comes to other subjects.

So, without its starting qb, UM lost 2 close games to SS and Weber. One seeded team and 1 that people believe was rated 9th. Lost to a semifinal team, plus a playoff team, Idaho. Those were the conference losses. Lost to a final team on the road. NDSU has only lost 1 home playoff game, ever.

UM ranked nos. 6 and 6 in the nation post-season in 2020 and 2021, and fell to 14th last season (due only to not having Johnson for the SS and Weber games). Only 4 FCS teams have had better average post-season rankings in the past 3 years. Besides those 4 teams, which FCS teams have been better than UM in the period of the last 3 years?

Won playoff games each of last 3 years.