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The players have been asked to vote on the music when they run out. They’ve voted to stick with tradition and keep Bring ‘Em Out.

Fair and good to know. Still just one part of what is becoming a decaying brand focused on the past and refusing to look ahead.

I don’t want to scrap all of our tradition. I was around for a hell of a lot of it. I just think we rely way too much on it.
 
You lost me when you consider Griz merchandise sales lame. Griz gear and logo sales revenue is in the top 50 of all CFB programs. Check the numbers before you make such blanket statements to support your narrative. Of course the revenue goes to the Bookstore, not the AD.
A lot of the revenue goes to Fargo and then to NDSU if the Griz merchandise is purchased at Scheels, and I love Scheels in Billings as a shopping destination. It just isn’t the best place to buy Griz gear if you want to support UM instead of NDSU.
 
A lot of the revenue goes to Fargo and then to NDSU if the Griz merchandise is purchased at Scheels, and I love Scheels in Billings as a shopping destination. It just isn’t the best place to buy Griz gear if you want to support UM instead of NDSU.
Irrespective, the license revenue goes to UM.
 
I can tell you have a lack of baseball knowledge and never played the game. lol
Baseball is fun to play especially pitching but it is boring to watch unless you are drinking beer at the game. I found relief pitching to have a lot of similarities to long snapping in football. The play started with me so I wasn’t relying on anyone else for my success and I wasn’t out there for a long period of time but was very involved in the play when I was in the field.
 
I went to Griz-cat 2.0 as well. It seems that they in bozo have improved their atmosphere and its tops in the fcs. Friggin Griz stadium atmosphere is literally top 10 in D-1. bozo is improving in a lot of ways. We do need to improve everything and keep working harder with zero complacency. Maybe improving some stadium music and speakers will help… our crowd is still off the chain and no one in fcs and honestly most in fbs aren’t as nuts and loud. We can still improve everywhere though and we should strive for that improvement. Go Griz!!!
Thx. Off the “charts”, I assume?
 
You lost me when you consider Griz merchandise sales lame. Griz gear and logo sales revenue is in the top 50 of all CFB programs. Check the numbers before you make such blanket statements to support your narrative. Of course the revenue goes to the Bookstore, not the AD.

You’re acting like I said the stadium is empty and we sell no merchandise. That isn’t my point.

I’m saying the cats are outselling us, because they are the more popular team in the state. Go to a Scheels outside of Missoula and try to find UM gear. Also, yes both UpTop and WYR (both owned by either a Griz player or fan) sell more MSU merch.

You think Rome fell in a day? I’m sounding the alarm that the attendance, NIL, enrollment, donations will all eventually dry up as we continue to lose market share.
 
Who led the FCS in attendance all 3 years Bob Stitt was here (2015-2017)? Maybe WaGriz is going to have a good crowd regardless of who the coach is or even how great the product on the field is.
 
You’re acting like I said the stadium is empty and we sell no merchandise. That isn’t my point.

I’m saying the cats are outselling us, because they are the more popular team in the state. Go to a Scheels outside of Missoula and try to find UM gear. Also, yes both UpTop and WYR (both owned by either a Griz player or fan) sell more MSU merch.

You think Rome fell in a day? I’m sounding the alarm that the attendance, NIL, enrollment, donations will all eventually dry up as we continue to lose market share.
Scheels in Billings is about half and half Griz and Cat gear. 10 years ago it was almost exclusively Griz gear though.
 
A lot of people who go to college games and follow college ball don’t know a ton about football. 95% of them have never played the game. Making an experience THEY can enjoy is just as important as catering to the other 5%. Maybe even more important.

And it doesn’t take a football expert or former college star to feel extremely deflated following two losses to your arch rival. You want excitement, NIL money, advertising revenue and merchandise sales? You make an exciting game time experience. UM used to do this 15-20 years ago and it was very good for the program.
I agree with much of what you said. But improving the music isn’t going to do any of the things others have suggested. The crowd is great at Griz games. Way better and louder than in Bozeman. UM is an exciting game day experience. Advertising and NIL doesn’t come from people or kids who would enjoy better music. Big NIL comes from a smaller group who are like me and don’t care about the music. Many are in the boxes and canyon club and can’t hear or don’t listen to much of the music. The ones on the sidelines aren’t there to listen to the music. I can’t imagine advertisers gear their advertising to the music.
 
Great Falls is 70/30. That whole city is Cat Country now. Used to be a Griz town.
Their location in Billings is the best one in Montana by far. It is comparable to locations in bigger cities. Billings as a town probably has more Cat fans than Griz now especially with the Dowlers being stars on the Cats and Junior Bergen no longer being on the Griz. It is crazy to me that we didn’t have anyone from Billings West on the team this past season. Billings West probably had the most players on the Griz from any high school during Bobby 1.0.
 
At the risk of alienating both sides, hulahoops has a point with game day atmosphere. But the point shouldn’t be that it sucks (clearly it doesn’t), but that it should evolve to provide more relevant media, music, and fan engagement that also appeals to younger folks. They are the future donors and season ticket holders. Hook em while they are young!

Regular hoops also has a point that winning games, which the Griz did 13 times this year, is the main product. The Griz have been excellent in that regard save one instance at home. Winning games makes a fun atmosphere regardless of what’s playing.

The point where the Griz pad home games by picking on the CWUs and Indiana States of the world is a good one. Getting better OOO teams into Wa Griz will be much more engaging and exciting. Coupled with elite entertainment bits and you have an elevated experience that younger people fight to go to.

So the answer, like everything on this board, is somewhere in the middle of everyone’s extremes. Also hoolahoops saying “Busch lattes” took me back to a simpler, much more inebriated time…
MV teams and CW is not padding. They are better than some conf teams. CW brings in huge net revenue.
 
How many wins did Jerome have at NAU? Was it because he was a great coach or because he was mediocre, never got a better opportunity and the complacent NAU athletics dept was afraid to try and get better?

Also no one is impressed you crashed Colt’s post game hotel party. But if you see him, ask him which program’s UpTop gear he sells more of at this point?

Things will never get better until a change is made at AD and coach. Just slowly worse and worse, as excitement dies, attendance drops and we fall further into irrelevance. But hey, we beat JMU on the road 17 years ago!
It wasn’t Colt’s party. He was on team charter going home. The Griz program is strong and going up now. Hauck and Haslam are leading that. Funny that you want to makes changes which will lead to a decline. You are a weird thinker.
 
You lost me when you consider Griz merchandise sales lame. Griz gear and logo sales revenue is in the top 50 of all CFB programs. Check the numbers before you make such blanket statements to support your narrative. Of course the revenue goes to the Bookstore, not the AD.
So that means we should be happy, because the status quo is pretty good? UM should be striving to improve and expand in all regards. Being happy with the status quo because it’s “good enough” is how the institution keeps losing ground to our neighbors to the East.
 
I agree with much of what you said. But improving the music isn’t going to do any of the things others have suggested. The crowd is great at Griz games. Way better and louder than in Bozeman. UM is an exciting game day experience. Advertising and NIL doesn’t come from people or kids who would enjoy better music. Big NIL comes from a smaller group who are like me and don’t care about the music. Many are in the boxes and canyon club and can’t hear or don’t listen to much of the music. The ones on the sidelines aren’t there to listen to the music. I can’t imagine advertisers gear their advertising to the music.
Students hear the music. Prospective students hear the music. So do kids and parents who will eventually make decisions about which team they will support and where they or their kids will attend school. Some of them become big donors. Kids in middle school in high school that might become talented football players also hear the music. It’s one aspect of the program that can be changed very easily to improve the overall experience, even if it doesn’t have anything to do with football.
 
So that means we should be happy, because the status quo is pretty good? UM should be striving to improve and expand in all regards. Being happy with the status quo because it’s “good enough” is how the institution keeps losing ground to our neighbors to the East.
No, UM constantly strives to get better, make improvements, add facilities, improve fund-raising, increase NIL, be more and more successful on the field, etc. UM has been doing that for decades. People like you want to dismantle what we have and get rid of the leadership that has been key in all those things. Off-base, complainers, weird. People like Kem and I want to support the team and program and keep the momentum going. It's interesting how many of your types were Stitt supporters, when the program went backwards more than it ever has since Read arrived.
 
Students hear the music. Prospective students hear the music. So do kids and parents who will eventually make decisions about which team they will support and where they or their kids will attend school. Some of them become big donors. Kids in middle school in high school that might become talented football players also hear the music. It’s one aspect of the program that can be changed very easily to improve the overall experience, even if it doesn’t have anything to do with football.
None of the largest donors, almost all of whom I know, care about the music. I don't know the Washingtons.

It is a total joke that some of you think the key to success is the music at the game.

I can't imagine that many of the high school kids who will consider UM attend the football games in person. Any kid who makes his college decision on the music in the football stadium should go to a lesser school, as they aren't going to make it in school anyway.
 
None of the largest donors, almost all of whom I know, care about the music. I don't know the Washingtons.

It is a total joke that some of you think the key to success is the music at the game.

I can't imagine that many of the high school kids who will consider UM attend the football games in person. Any kid who makes his college decision on the music in the football stadium should go to a lesser school, as they aren't going to make it in school anyway.
Kids who might attend UM most certainly go to the games, as do their friends and families. I didn’t say that music is the key to success. This is evidenced by the fact that I didn’t say it.

A lot of the students at msu aren’t there for the academics. It’s one of the things I hate most about that institution. They have been very effective at marketing the ‘experience’ of Bozeman, msu etc. But those kids pay tuition (or their parents do) and a lot of them pay the premium out of state tuition. UM has not been as effective at marketing or appealing to high school kids as msu. Will better music at football games alone fix this? Certainly not. But blasting old, weird Kid Rock at games doesn’t help anything.
 
No, UM constantly strives to get better, make improvements, add facilities, improve fund-raising, increase NIL, be more and more successful on the field, etc. UM has been doing that for decades. People like you want to dismantle what we have and get rid of the leadership that has been key in all those things. Off-base, complainers, weird. People like Kem and I want to support the team and program and keep the momentum going. It's interesting how many of your types were Stitt supporters, when the program went backwards more than it ever has since Read arrived.
Then how have we fallen so far behind? It’s not just Stitt’s fault.
 
Then how have we fallen so far behind? It’s not just Stitt’s fault.
Fallen behind what. We won 13 games. Made the semis. Will be ranked no. 3 in the nation. We're in the championship game on 2023. Won the conference in 2023. Beat 4 MV schools this season. Have done better against the Dakota and MV schools than the Cats. The Cats have gotten better; the Griz haven't fallen behind. UM should have won the first Cat game this season, if not both. Congrats to the Cats. They have done well in most years in the last decade. I'm fine with that. But they don't have as good of a stadium, attendance, game-day atmosphere, season tickets, etc. They have had problems with coaches and players off-field and on-field.

How can you even say or think the Griz have gone backwards in recent years? That just isn't true, not even remotely close to being true. As Soldier just said, you guys are off your rocker.
 
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