Griz Bball under coach Tinkle

[Sugar Bear 16]

Just wait till next year!











Wait, are we starting to sound like Cubs' fans?

I think some are.

 

[Griznationalist]

Average # season wins in coach’s first three seasons:

Montgomery -- 16.66

Tinkle -- 16

Heathcote -- 15.33

Holst -- 13.66

 

[Sugar Bear 16]

Average # season wins in coach’s first three seasons:

Montgomery -- 16.66

Tinkle -- 16

Heathcote -- 15.33

Holst -- 13.66

and ?

 

[Griznationalist]

Average # season wins in coach’s first three seasons:

Montgomery -- 16.66

Tinkle -- 16

Heathcote -- 15.33

Holst -- 13.66

and ?

?

 

[AllWeatherFan]

...and Larry K jumped ship after two seasons?

 

[General Disarray]

Larry K.

18-13
24-7
. . .

With zero wins in a non-existent third season, LK averaged 14 wins in his first 3 seasons with UM, placing him fourth on that list.

 

[Sugar Bear 16]

Average # season wins in coach’s first three seasons:

Montgomery -- 16.66

Tinkle -- 16

Heathcote -- 15.33

Holst -- 13.66

and ?

and your point is what? These comparision excuses for Tinkle are getting old.

 

[Griznationalist]

and ?

and your point is what? These comparision excuses for Tinkle are getting old.

The numbers are just facts. Not trying to make a point. Just presenting facts. You're free to conclude whatever you want.

Average # season wins in coach’s first three seasons:

Montgomery -- 16.66

Tinkle -- 16

Heathcote -- 15.33

Holst -- 13.66

 

[Sugar Bear 16]

and your point is what? These comparision excuses for Tinkle are getting old.

The numbers are just facts. Not trying to make a point. Just presenting facts. You're free to conclude whatever you want.

Average # season wins in coach’s first three seasons:

Montgomery -- 16.66

Tinkle -- 16

Heathcote -- 15.33

Holst -- 13.66

I'm not buying the whole I'm just giving facts. The comparision excuse for Tinkle is not a viable one becuase, all those coaches coached during different era's which means that they all dealt with different resources and limitations when it comes to budgets, scholarships, facilities, support, rules, recruiting factors, etc, etc. If anything Tinkle has an advantage over Monte, Heathcote, Brandenberg, Morrill, and maybe even Taylor because, he has better resources to work with and that's why I think he needs to prove himself a little bit more before he's handed a 3 year ext. He probably deserved a 1 ext. for this season but, that's it. This is just my opinion.

 

[Griznationalist]

Monty (not "Monte") inherited a team that was 20-9 the year before he took over as head coach.

Morrill inherited a team that was 21-11 the year before he took over as head coach.

Taylor inherited a team that went 22-9 the year before he took over as head coach.

Tinkle inherited a team that went 24-7 the year before he took over as head coach.

Average number of wins per year in head coach's first three seasons:

Montgomery -- 16.66

Tinkle -- 16

Heathcote -- 15.33

Holst -- 13.66

 

[Sugar Bear 16]

Monty (not "Monte") inherited a team that was 20-9 the year before he took over as head coach.

Morrill inherited a team that was 21-11 the year before he took over as head coach.

Taylor inherited a team that went 22-9 the year before he took over as head coach.

Tinkle inherited a team that went 24-7 the year before he took over as head coach.

Average number of wins per year in head coach's first three seasons:

Montgomery -- 16.66

Tinkle -- 16

Heathcote -- 15.33

Holst -- 13.66

It can be either MOnty or Monte people use both. Keep your shirt on. As for above you can factor in senior heavy teams, transfers, recruits from previous coach not panning out, strength of schedule changing etc., etc. It's not a viable excuse for being lackluster. I also, would include Holst in it either he doesn't help make your point.

 

[Griznationalist]

Monty (not "Monte") inherited a team that was 20-9 the year before he took over as head coach.

Morrill inherited a team that was 21-11 the year before he took over as head coach.

Taylor inherited a team that went 22-9 the year before he took over as head coach.

Tinkle inherited a team that went 24-7 the year before he took over as head coach.

Average number of wins per year in head coach's first three seasons:

Montgomery -- 16.66

Tinkle -- 16

Heathcote -- 15.33

Holst -- 13.66

It can be either MOnty or Monte people use both. Keep your shirt on. As for above you can factor in senior heavy teams, transfers, recruits from previous coach not panning out, strength of schedule changing etc., etc. It's not a viable excuse for being lackluster. I also, would include Holst in it either he doesn't help make your point.

Dude, you made an error, just admit it. Calm down. Check any website, like the links below, and you’ll see how to spell Monty’s name. Don’t try to name him after a goofy bear mascot that didn’t even exist when Monty coached here … LOL. As for your theory that records apparently mean nothing, and your apparent closeness to Monty … I mean, Monte? … why don’t you call Montgomery and ask him if 16 wins as a season average is respectable for 2006-07 through 2008-09 at UM. I have an idea of what he will tell you, but why not find out for yourself? If you respect Monty that much, why not ask him? Afraid of what he'll tell you?

http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindbeaversbeat/2009/02/cal_win_extra_satisfying_say_t.html

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2009/01/15/mike-montgomery-returns-to-stanford-how-will-he-be-received/

http://www.sportsnipe.com/main_sportsnews/2910501/mike-montgomery-indiana-vacancy.html

 

[montanatarheel]

I wouldn't say Tinks has a clear advantage he may have a little more money or better resources but having 15 scholarships as opposed to 13 is pretty huge.

I will agree the three year extension came to early and was probably too long but as that great sports saying goes "it is what it is". At least they showed improvement this year.

 

[Sugar Bear 16]

It can be either MOnty or Monte people use both. Keep your shirt on. As for above you can factor in senior heavy teams, transfers, recruits from previous coach not panning out, strength of schedule changing etc., etc. It's not a viable excuse for being lackluster. I also, would include Holst in it either he doesn't help make your point.

Dude, you made an error, just admit it. Calm down. Check any website, like the links below, and you’ll see how to spell Monty’s name. Don’t try to name him after a goofy bear mascot that didn’t even exist when Monty coached here … LOL. As for your theory that records apparently mean nothing, and your apparent closeness to Monty … I mean, Monte? … why don’t you call Montgomery and ask him if 16 wins as a season average is respectable for 2006-07 through 2008-09 at UM. I have an idea of what he will tell you, but why not find out for yourself? If you respect Monty that much, why not ask him? Afraid of what he'll tell you?

http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindbeaversbeat/2009/02/cal_win_extra_satisfying_say_t.html

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2009/01/15/mike-montgomery-returns-to-stanford-how-will-he-be-received/

http://www.sportsnipe.com/main_sportsnews/2910501/mike-montgomery-indiana-vacancy.html

You got his number tough guy?

 

[Sugar Bear 16]

It can be either MOnty or Monte people use both. Keep your shirt on. As for above you can factor in senior heavy teams, transfers, recruits from previous coach not panning out, strength of schedule changing etc., etc. It's not a viable excuse for being lackluster. I also, would include Holst in it either he doesn't help make your point.

Dude, you made an error, just admit it. Calm down. Check any website, like the links below, and you’ll see how to spell Monty’s name. Don’t try to name him after a goofy bear mascot that didn’t even exist when Monty coached here … LOL. As for your theory that records apparently mean nothing, and your apparent closeness to Monty … I mean, Monte? … why don’t you call Montgomery and ask him if 16 wins as a season average is respectable for 2006-07 through 2008-09 at UM. I have an idea of what he will tell you, but why not find out for yourself? If you respect Monty that much, why not ask him? Afraid of what he'll tell you?

http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindbeaversbeat/2009/02/cal_win_extra_satisfying_say_t.html

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2009/01/15/mike-montgomery-returns-to-stanford-how-will-he-be-received/

http://www.sportsnipe.com/main_sportsnews/2910501/mike-montgomery-indiana-vacancy.html

Oh, by the way Montgomery the British General went by Monte, it's like Xtian being sort for Christian.

 

[General Disarray]

I wouldn't say Tinks has a clear advantage he may have a little more money or better resources but having 15 scholarships as opposed to 13 is pretty huge.

I will agree the three year extension came to early and was probably too long but as that great sports saying goes "it is what it is". At least they showed improvement this year.

How does 15 scholarships or 13 scholarships change things? Tinkles opponents have the same # of scholarships as UM now and Montgomery's opponents had the same as UM then. Scholarship limits help mid-major and low-major teams because the premier programs can't stash as much of the top tier talent on their bench, but I don't see how it's relevant when discussing mid-major vs mid-major or low-major vs low-major.

 

[Griznationalist]

Dude, you made an error, just admit it. Calm down. Check any website, like the links below, and you’ll see how to spell Monty’s name. Don’t try to name him after a goofy bear mascot that didn’t even exist when Monty coached here … LOL. As for your theory that records apparently mean nothing, and your apparent closeness to Monty … I mean, Monte? … why don’t you call Montgomery and ask him if 16 wins as a season average is respectable for 2006-07 through 2008-09 at UM. I have an idea of what he will tell you, but why not find out for yourself? If you respect Monty that much, why not ask him? Afraid of what he'll tell you?

http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindbeaversbeat/2009/02/cal_win_extra_satisfying_say_t.html

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2009/01/15/mike-montgomery-returns-to-stanford-how-will-he-be-received/

http://www.sportsnipe.com/main_sportsnews/2910501/mike-montgomery-indiana-vacancy.html

You got his number tough guy?

Yup. 510-642-0361

Let us know what you learn.

 

[montanatarheel]

I wouldn't say Tinks has a clear advantage he may have a little more money or better resources but having 15 scholarships as opposed to 13 is pretty huge.

I will agree the three year extension came to early and was probably too long but as that great sports saying goes "it is what it is". At least they showed improvement this year.

How does 15 scholarships or 13 scholarships change things? Tinkles opponents have the same # of scholarships as UM now and Montgomery's opponents had the same as UM then. Scholarship limits help mid-major and low-major teams because the premier programs can't stash as much of the top tier talent on their bench, but I don't see how it's relevant when discussing mid-major vs mid-major or low-major vs low-major.

It helps to develop talent and allows mid and low-majors to have more 5th years seniors which is the best way for us to compete with the uber talented young kids high-majors get. We probably could have redshirted stockton this year, qvale last year, and we probably would have had andy garland on board and redshirted him. We could also have sharpy for another year. Not saying tinks is a better coach than monte-y he has a long way to go in that regard i just feel 5th year seniors really give smaller programs a boost. Men vs. boys they are more battle tested and generally have a better understanding of the game.