Gazette - QB Rankings

[NLGrizFan]

Hamer, depth is looking good. But, getting back to the topic of this thread, we will see at the end of the season who is best between DM and JJ. The media clearly picks DM and the homies on here pick JJ. So, let the games begin and by the end of the season we will know who is correct.

I already know.

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[ABQCat]

(Serious Question)

Where would McKinney & SSH fall on this list?

:shock: :shock: :shock:
I effing dare anybody to give an honest answer to this question. :shock:

 

['68griz]

(Serious Question)

Where would McKinney & SSH fall on this list?

:shock: :shock: :shock:
I effing dare anybody to give an honest answer to this question. :shock:

Aways down...but that ranking could change, especially re McKinney, as time goes by.

 

[Blgs Griz Fan]

The only way I can compare JJ and DM is based on actual competition against each other. That was the 2011 game in Bozangeles. What part of 36 to 10 is not understood. JJ gave a seminar that day on what it is like to be a playoff caliber qb especially on the Griz opening drive of the second half.

 

[grizcountry420]

The only way I can compare JJ and DM is based on actual competition against each other. That was the 2011 game in Bozangeles. What part of 36 to 10 is not understood. JJ gave a seminar that day on what it is like to be a playoff caliber qb especially on the Griz opening drive of the second half.

Fukc ya! We're gonna stuff it down their throats again!!

 

[MT Head Guy]

The only way I can compare JJ and DM is based on actual competition against each other. That was the 2011 game in Bozangeles. What part of 36 to 10 is not understood. JJ gave a seminar that day on what it is like to be a playoff caliber qb especially on the Griz opening drive of the second half.

That's why I've always said that Jeff Fleming and Brian Bell are far superior QB's to JJ. Very sound logic.

 

[RobGriz]

All this article proves is what most of us already know. Reporters don't know sh1t.

Since when does an article in a newspaper with opinion prove anything. You have to be lame to believe that. The proof is at the end of this season when we have the results. The reporter may be spot-on. That's why games are played.

My point exactly.

Where the f*** did you come from? You still holding onto the redhead with a magical vagina?

Haha...good one :clap:




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[RobGriz]

All this article proves is what most of us already know. Reporters don't know sh1t.

Since when does an article in a newspaper with opinion prove anything. You have to be lame to believe that. The proof is at the end of this season when we have the results. The reporter may be spot-on. That's why games are played.

My point exactly.

Wrong RobGriz. The reporter may be right. We will see at the end of the season.

Yes, he might. What I am trying to say, and maybe not so well, was making predictions like this is like the preseason AP top 25. Kinda stupid. We have NO idea how the season is going to turn out or if one if these guys might get hurt. How will the new Griz O affect JJ, if at all? Is MSU's O-line good enough to give DM protection? Who knows. Like you say, that's why they play the games.

 

[Geddes]

Easy cowboy. Haven't seen you post in a while. I tend to agree with you on a lot of things.

 

[Brock Landers]

The Gazette clearly has a pro-Cats bias!!!!!!

/Cat fans

 

[poorgriz]

The only way I can compare JJ and DM is based on actual competition against each other. That was the 2011 game in Bozangeles. What part of 36 to 10 is not understood. JJ gave a seminar that day on what it is like to be a playoff caliber qb especially on the Griz opening drive of the second half.

Really?? So that's the only way to compare two QB's? Hmmm. I did not know that. So you can't look at the entire body of work, countless games won, Big Sky Championships, records broken, etc. to make a judgement on whether or not DM is a good QB? Well if that's the case, let's take a look at JJ's game against Sac State in 2011 where JJ got his ass handed to him, looked lost, threw three picks, lost the game 42 to 28, and watched while Jeff Fleming put on a clinic and showed JJ how to be a D1 QB. So can I assume that you all would agree that Jeff Fleming is a way better QB than JJ?

 

[Jerry Punch]

I don't think you can compare JJ and DM based on Cat/Griz 2011 alone. That game proved one big thing - the Griz were the vastly superior to the Cats. It is difficult in general to compare quarterbacks on separate teams when they play each other. Those match ups are difficult to evaluate in the same way we evaluate a tennis match, golf, basketball, or even baseball. Those team sports involve more objective measurables than DM versus the Grizzly defense or JJ versus the Bobcat defense.

JJ has played one year and had more success than DM in that same year. DM has played three years and has more wins than JJ but fizzles out in the playoffs. Our debate here is invariably colored by our fandom. If JJ wins a NC and DM doesn't, he is the better QB. I don't care how flashy each QB is - you play the game to win. I know this fact is often lost on Griz fans, but slow and steady (see John Edwards) wins the race.

 

[grizcountry420]

I don't think you can compare JJ and DM based on Cat/Griz 2011 alone. That game proved one big thing - the Griz were the vastly superior to the Cats. It is difficult in general to compare quarterbacks on separate teams when they play each other. Those match ups are difficult to evaluate in the same way we evaluate a tennis match, golf, basketball, or even baseball. Those team sports involve more objective measurables than DM versus the Grizzly defense or JJ versus the Bobcat defense.

JJ has played one year and had more success than DM in that same year. DM has played three years and has more wins than JJ but fizzles out in the playoffs. Our debate here is invariably colored by our fandom. If JJ wins a NC and DM doesn't, he is the better QB. I don't care how flashy each QB is - you play the game to win. I know this fact is often lost on Griz fans, but slow and steady (see John Edwards) wins the race.

Great analysis! Pat yourself on the back..... :clap:

 

[George Ferguson]

I wouldn't go as far as to say Fleming was a better QB then JJ, but I sure as hell would agree with someone who said earlier we should all admit Brian Bell was the last two seasons. Bell was outstanding in all playoff games I saw him in, and by that rationale, he' was indeed better than JJ and DM.

 

[ilovethecats]

The only way I can compare JJ and DM is based on actual competition against each other.

:lol:

that's a gem. it's great news for me as a vikes fan though. see...I am not sold on ponder at all. but it's great to know that he's better than aaron Rodgers, matt Stafford, jay cutler and matt schaub to name a few.

that is a relief. :thumb:

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

This thread is stupid. Rahac and the BSC plus those that vote for the Peyton candidates in the FCS pick DM as the best QB in the BSC. You homies all love JJ. Great. Now, let the season begin and see how it plays out. That will tell the story!

That's the thing bigsky33, IF JJ played last year would he be picked by Rahac and the BSC plus those that vote for the Patyron candidates in the FCS as the best QB in the BSC? And the answer would be a resounding YES.

 

[Grizzlies1982]

Since this thread has devolved into speculation hell, what IF...

JJ was QB of the bobcats and
The Irish Lad QB of the Griz.

How would each stack up then? :ugeek:

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

I don't think you can compare JJ and DM based on Cat/Griz 2011 alone. That game proved one big thing - the Griz were the vastly superior to the Cats. It is difficult in general to compare quarterbacks on separate teams when they play each other. Those match ups are difficult to evaluate in the same way we evaluate a tennis match, golf, basketball, or even baseball. Those team sports involve more objective measurables than DM versus the Grizzly defense or JJ versus the Bobcat defense.

JJ has played one year and had more success than DM in that same year. DM has played three years and has more wins than JJ but fizzles out in the playoffs. Our debate here is invariably colored by our fandom. If JJ wins a NC and DM doesn't, he is the better QB. I don't care how flashy each QB is - you play the game to win. I know this fact is often lost on Griz fans, but slow and steady (see John Edwards) wins the race.

Yep, and JJ is more likely to win the big one since he was so close in his 1 year at QB already, plus he has 2 more tries at it.

Whereas all hype McGhee has had 3 chances already and hasn't come within a couple planets of reaching everyones ultimate goal of the national championship. And the kid is getting desperate, he has 1 very weak chance left this year.

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

The only way I can compare JJ and DM is based on actual competition against each other. That was the 2011 game in Bozangeles. What part of 36 to 10 is not understood. JJ gave a seminar that day on what it is like to be a playoff caliber qb especially on the Griz opening drive of the second half.

Really?? So that's the only way to compare two QB's? Hmmm. I did not know that. So you can't look at the entire body of work, countless games won, Big Sky Championships, records broken, etc. to make a judgement on whether or not DM is a good QB? Well if that's the case, let's take a look at JJ's game against Sac State in 2011 where JJ got his ass handed to him, looked lost, threw three picks, lost the game 42 to 28, and watched while Jeff Fleming put on a clinic and showed JJ how to be a D1 QB. So can I assume that you all would agree that Jeff Fleming is a way better QB than JJ?

Since you're drumming up All-Time Great Performances, how about last years m cat versus EWU debacle in bozo? The m cats had the conference title to themselves, but what did DM do to lose the out-right title? Oooooh that's right, with the game in hand for the m cats, he THREW A PICK SIX in the waining seconds to lose the out-right conference title!!! :shock: What a horrific mistake! He's sooooooo good though. :lol:

 

[Jerry Punch]

I don't think you can compare JJ and DM based on Cat/Griz 2011 alone. That game proved one big thing - the Griz were the vastly superior to the Cats. It is difficult in general to compare quarterbacks on separate teams when they play each other. Those match ups are difficult to evaluate in the same way we evaluate a tennis match, golf, basketball, or even baseball. Those team sports involve more objective measurables than DM versus the Grizzly defense or JJ versus the Bobcat defense.

JJ has played one year and had more success than DM in that same year. DM has played three years and has more wins than JJ but fizzles out in the playoffs. Our debate here is invariably colored by our fandom. If JJ wins a NC and DM doesn't, he is the better QB. I don't care how flashy each QB is - you play the game to win. I know this fact is often lost on Griz fans, but slow and steady (see John Edwards) wins the race.

Yep, and JJ is more likely to win the big one since he was so close in his 1 year at QB already, plus he has 2 more tries at it.

Whereas all hype McGhee has had 3 chances already and hasn't come within a couple planets of reaching everyones ultimate goal of the national championship. And the kid is getting desperate, he has 1 very weak chance left this year.

That was two seasons ago, bro. And so close is relative. So close to beating SHSU? Yes. So close to beating NDSU? I'll let you stroke yourself off over whether or not that would have happened. Carry on.