GAME DAY THREAD - Butler

[Wolf777]

Two weeks ago: "we need to have younger QBs that we grow in the program. We need a guy who plays here for years, not a one year transfer!"

Today: "Vidlak was not good enough!"

From where I sat, Vidlak was very accurate. He put balls in the only place possible. On the first field goal, he threw an incredibly placed pass and it was dropped. That's okay, I would have dropped it too because I am not half the athlete these kids are.

But if SO many Griz fans want us to have a young QB that will grow in the program as a three year starter, we should probably give some leeway for a bad pass or bad decision in the first games starting. That is, quite literally, the process of development. If you want a kid to join the program and grow, support his growth.

Also, that hit by Fouch in the 4th was right in front of me, and I am just glad the kid walked off the field.

Good post. I saw the hit from the opposite ten yard line and thought for sure it was going to get flagged. My dad swore it was clean. Haven’t watched a replay, so I have no clue, but I know it’s not often that you knock a player the fudge out on a regular hit.

It was right in front of us and I swear it wasn’t clean as it looked like he dropped his head right before contact. He However, by that point he was a runner and not defenseless. He definitely drove all the way through that hit. I thought for sure it was going to get reviewed. It wasn’t the only big hit Fouch had. He had some swagger after some of his big plays. It was good to see from him given his time in the program.

Gradney showed off some serious athleticism today. That should be fun to watch. Again.

There are several plays I’ll have to watch on the recording of the game that I would like to see with a lens versus being in the stands, including some of the penalty calls. It always gives a different perspective after the fact and I always have a different feeling after putting both aspects together. Good, bad, or indifferent.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Good post. I saw the hit from the opposite ten yard line and thought for sure it was going to get flagged. My dad swore it was clean. Haven’t watched a replay, so I have no clue, but I know it’s not often that you knock a player the fuck out on a regular hit.

About as textbook of a hit as a safety can make. Shoulder to the chest. Absolutely brutal hit. I am SO glad they didn’t flag that…there was absolutely nothing illegal about it.

Cool, good to know. Very glad they didn’t flag it, too.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Good post. I saw the hit from the opposite ten yard line and thought for sure it was going to get flagged. My dad swore it was clean. Haven’t watched a replay, so I have no clue, but I know it’s not often that you knock a player the fudge out on a regular hit.

It was right in front of us and I swear it wasn’t clean as it looked like he dropped his head right before contact. He However, by that point he was a runner and not defenseless. He definitely drove all the way through that hit. I thought for sure it was going to get reviewed. It wasn’t the only big hit Fouch had. He had some swagger after some of his big plays. It was good to see from him given his time in the program.

Gradney showed off some serious athleticism today. That should be fun to watch. Again.

There are several plays I’ll have to watch on the recording of the game that I would like to see with a lens versus being in the stands, including some of the penalty calls. It always gives a different perspective after the fact and I always have a different feeling after putting both aspects together. Good, bad, or indifferent.

Agree with your last para. It really seemed like their left tackle had a lot of jersey on a few of their 50/50 jump balls, but maybe I was reading things with my heart instead of my head. I have a tendency to do that.

 

[buckruff]

The problem is defense. Secondary issues and no pass rush. It will be a long season unless we play teams without scholarships all season.

 

[Proud Griz Man]

Here’s my concern: Several of Vidlak’s passes were into VEEEERY tight coverage. He tries that against scholarship players and he’s gonna have a boatload of INT’s.

I liked McDowell’s play. and Gillman’s. Other than that? Underwhelmed, to say the least.

We are in a world of hurt on the backside of this defense if this is the best we can do.
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I completely Agree with those three sentences AZ. Plus the front 6 defenders need to shed blocks, and wrap-up on the tackling. If the Griz defense just gave up 200+ rushing yardage to Butler, then what is going to happen against the upper-tier Big Sky teams and OVC teams who excel at playing bully-ball ?

 

[IdaGriz01]

... Plus the front 6 defenders need to shed blocks, and wrap-up on the tackling. If the Griz defense just gave up 200+ rushing yardage to Butler, then what is going to happen against the upper-tier Big Sky teams and OVC teams who excel at playing bully-ball ?

You got the numbers backwards. The Griz did give up 200+ yards passing. As I said earlier, I figure the game plan was to force the dual-threat QB to beat the Griz with his arm by stuffing the run. In that they succeeded admirably ... Butler gained just 41 yards on 26 running plays.

 

[Proud Griz Man]

Yes - my error. The Butler fly-sweeps counted as passing yardage.

... Plus the front 6 defenders need to shed blocks, and wrap-up on the tackling. If the Griz defense just gave up 200+ rushing yardage to Butler, then what is going to happen against the upper-tier Big Sky teams and OVC teams who excel at playing bully-ball ?

You got the numbers backwards. The Griz did give up 200+ yards passing. As I said earlier, I figure the game plan was to force the dual-threat QB to beat the Griz with his arm by stuffing the run. In that they succeeded admirably ... Butler gained just 41 yards on 26 running plays.

 

[Colter_Nuanez56]

Montana Football Press Conference: Post Butler - Bobby Hauck, Eli Gilman, Ryder Meyer

No. 14 Montana (1-0) defeats Butler (0-1) 35-20 in Missoula on September 2, 2023.

The Griz rolled up 441 total yards of offense, including 230 rushing yards. Freshman running back Eli Gillman totaled 119 yards on 19 attempts.

Part I of this video features Montana head coach Bobby Hauck, running back Eli Gillman & safety Ryder Myer.

Part II features Butler head coach Mike Uremovich.

This video was filmed and produced by Brooks Nuanez Skyline Sports on September 2, 2023. All Rights Reserved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOnHC-ReE-A&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fskylinesportsmt.com%2F&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE&feature=emb_title

 

[Blgs Griz Fan]

From the scrimmage and this site. Maybe hype was a poor choice of words. Either way, it was a less than auspicious start. Not to make comparisons, but Craig Ochs had like 180 yards against Maine in 2004…

First, you did make a comparison, and second, Vidlak is an inexperienced kid with very few game reps. People saw good things, and he even showed some today, but the hope is for him to get better. I will also add that his teammates failed to make some plays that could have made things easier.

I think one issue that hasn't been mentioned is the center snaps to Vidlak. He looked like a soccer goalie for a ton of those. That is something that needs correcting immediately.

 

[Wolf777]

First, you did make a comparison, and second, Vidlak is an inexperienced kid with very few game reps. People saw good things, and he even showed some today, but the hope is for him to get better. I will also add that his teammates failed to make some plays that could have made things easier.

I think one issue that hasn't been mentioned is the center snaps to Vidlak. He looked like a soccer goalie for a ton of those. That is something that needs correcting immediately.

I pointed it out early to my wife and seat neighbors and they watched that series leading up to that really bad snap and couldn’t believe how consistently off they were. We haven’t seen that from Forbes in the past. I am sure he will correct it. Has to be a little difficult looking at the height differences between Sam and Clifton or Sam and Kris. It looked like coach pulled him aside after that. There was a few high to Clifton as well in the second half. One thing on a list of many to work on this week.

 

[PDXGrizzly]

Montana Football Press Conference: Post Butler - Bobby Hauck, Eli Gilman, Ryder Meyer

No. 14 Montana (1-0) defeats Butler (0-1) 35-20 in Missoula on September 2, 2023.

The Griz rolled up 441 total yards of offense, including 230 rushing yards. Freshman running back Eli Gillman totaled 119 yards on 19 attempts.

Part I of this video features Montana head coach Bobby Hauck, running back Eli Gillman & safety Ryder Myer.

Part II features Butler head coach Mike Uremovich.

This video was filmed and produced by Brooks Nuanez Skyline Sports on September 2, 2023. All Rights Reserved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOnHC-ReE-A&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fskylinesportsmt.com%2F&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE&feature=emb_title

Watching the presser… I swear Gillman looks like he pays a mortgage. Can someone send him a polo, jean shorts, white crew socks, and those white new balance shoes? The kid looks older than me and I’m 40.

 

[BILLYBEAR]

I keep seeing the comment " We didnt get ⁷
to the Q back.. looks to me we did not stunt or blitz hardly at all. For the most part we only brought 3 or 4 most of the game. Unlike last year it felt like we brought the house every play. Im sure the plan was to be very vaniila till we start with conference.

 

[ElrodGrizzly]

Montana Football Press Conference: Post Butler - Bobby Hauck, Eli Gilman, Ryder Meyer

No. 14 Montana (1-0) defeats Butler (0-1) 35-20 in Missoula on September 2, 2023.

The Griz rolled up 441 total yards of offense, including 230 rushing yards. Freshman running back Eli Gillman totaled 119 yards on 19 attempts.

Part I of this video features Montana head coach Bobby Hauck, running back Eli Gillman & safety Ryder Myer.

Part II features Butler head coach Mike Uremovich.

This video was filmed and produced by Brooks Nuanez Skyline Sports on September 2, 2023. All Rights Reserved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOnHC-ReE-A&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fskylinesportsmt.com%2F&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE&feature=emb_title

Watching the presser… I swear Gillman looks like he pays a mortgage. Can someone send him a polo, jean shorts, white crew socks, and those white new balance shoes? The kid looks older than me and I’m 40.

I wish I was good enough at the board to post the scen from Bad Boys 2 where he says "you look 40" to the high school kid. Every time I see a picture of Gillman with a mustache it runs through my head. I feel like he must be Karl Malone's grandkid somehow. He is so crazy big for his frame

 

[Copper Griz]

I keep seeing the comment " We didnt get ⁷
to the Q back.. looks to me we did not stunt or blitz hardly at all. For the most part we only brought 3 or 4 most of the game. Unlike last year it felt like we brought the house every play. Im sure the plan was to be very vaniila till we start with conference.

Solid post. Some on the board are melting down. This schedule is perfect for cleaning up mistakes and getting the QB’s dialed in and meshing with the team. Lots of mistakes. Looked sloppy and definitely first game of the year. Let’s see what next week looks like. Credit to Butler. They came to play and they have one heck of a QB. Great arm and his guys caught some tough passes. I am also interested in the RB situation. Super happy to see Gilman in the game. Is Ostmo hurt? Surprised he didn’t see the field.

 

[CDAGRIZ]

Montana Football Press Conference: Post Butler - Bobby Hauck, Eli Gilman, Ryder Meyer

No. 14 Montana (1-0) defeats Butler (0-1) 35-20 in Missoula on September 2, 2023.

The Griz rolled up 441 total yards of offense, including 230 rushing yards. Freshman running back Eli Gillman totaled 119 yards on 19 attempts.

Part I of this video features Montana head coach Bobby Hauck, running back Eli Gillman & safety Ryder Myer.

Part II features Butler head coach Mike Uremovich.

This video was filmed and produced by Brooks Nuanez Skyline Sports on September 2, 2023. All Rights Reserved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOnHC-ReE-A&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fskylinesportsmt.com%2F&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE&feature=emb_title

Watching the presser… I swear Gillman looks like he pays a mortgage. Can someone send him a polo, jean shorts, white crew socks, and those white new balance shoes? The kid looks older than me and I’m 40.

I’m a man; I’m 40!


[media]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ3oXkDPKbM[/media]

 

[EverettGriz]

Watching the presser… I swear Gillman looks like he pays a mortgage. Can someone send him a polo, jean shorts, white crew socks, and those white new balance shoes? The kid looks older than me and I’m 40.

I’m a man; I’m 40!


[media]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ3oXkDPKbM[/media]

Ha! Beat me to it CDA.

 

[PDXGrizzly]

Watching the presser… I swear Gillman looks like he pays a mortgage. Can someone send him a polo, jean shorts, white crew socks, and those white new balance shoes? The kid looks older than me and I’m 40.

I’m a man; I’m 40!


[media]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ3oXkDPKbM[/media]

:lol: bravo sir!

 

[maroonandsilver]

I keep seeing the comment " We didnt get ⁷
to the Q back.. looks to me we did not stunt or blitz hardly at all. For the most part we only brought 3 or 4 most of the game. Unlike last year it felt like we brought the house every play. Im sure the plan was to be very vaniila till we start with conference.

Solid post. Some on the board are melting down. This schedule is perfect for cleaning up mistakes and getting the QB’s dialed in and meshing with the team. Lots of mistakes. Looked sloppy and definitely first game of the year. Let’s see what next week looks like. Credit to Butler. They came to play and they have one heck of a QB. Great arm and his guys caught some tough passes. I am also interested in the RB situation. Super happy to see Gilman in the game. Is Ostmo hurt? Surprised he didn’t see the field.

Ostmo did get in for one play. He didn't get the carry. He is recovering from hernia surgery.

 

[Wolf777]

Solid post. Some on the board are melting down. This schedule is perfect for cleaning up mistakes and getting the QB’s dialed in and meshing with the team. Lots of mistakes. Looked sloppy and definitely first game of the year. Let’s see what next week looks like. Credit to Butler. They came to play and they have one heck of a QB. Great arm and his guys caught some tough passes. I am also interested in the RB situation. Super happy to see Gilman in the game. Is Ostmo hurt? Surprised he didn’t see the field.

Ostmo did get in for one play. He didn't get the carry. He is recovering from hernia surgery.

In that one play it was really nice to see the offset I in a short yardage situation with a quick hitter to Gillman. Poorly executed up front and less effective than that personnel has the potential to be.

 

[retiredfan]

Well we have the first game over with now we have to clean up a lot of things. Defense had no pressure, cornerbacks were getting beat. Offense had trouble opening holes for the running game, receivers not catching passes. First game jitters I hope. Vidlak had some nice passes, and McDowell had some good runs. Fouch lit up that ball carrier, holy smokes what a hit. Looking forward to improving play. I believe GO GRIZ!!!!