Frisco contract expires?

[Griztrain]

I fly to Vegas all the time. no matter when I travel, I can fly round trip for around $189 per person. I stay at Ceasars Palace usually for under $35 per night.
If the venue was in Vegas, people would come just because it was Vegas. Yes, the scalpers will be out there and raise prices, just like everywhere, but what can you do about that. If Furman and Delaware were playing this game in Frisco maybe 10K fans, but if they were playing in Vegas, probably 20K or more? Yes, speculation I know. If anyone would have to pay $500 a night at the MGM or any Vegas hotel then something is very wrong.

Think how much you would spend gambling tho. Haha

Regardless. This event isn’t big enough for Vegas to care about.

Just for comparison the Las Vegas bowl in Allegiant stadium (Utah vs Northwestern) had an attendance of 20,897.
With a 60,000 seat stadium to alleviate some stress on the supply pricing, some cheaper Vegas flights, and being a driveable 14 hours for most Montanans, I think the FCS Championship hits 25,000.
Along with the Dakota fans who annually buy tickets knowing their teams have a shot make it, still might go just for a nice mid winter Vegas vacation to escape the cold.

 

[GrizGeneral]

I fly to Vegas all the time. no matter when I travel, I can fly round trip for around $189 per person. I stay at Ceasars Palace usually for under $35 per night.
If the venue was in Vegas, people would come just because it was Vegas. Yes, the scalpers will be out there and raise prices, just like everywhere, but what can you do about that. If Furman and Delaware were playing this game in Frisco maybe 10K fans, but if they were playing in Vegas, probably 20K or more? Yes, speculation I know. If anyone would have to pay $500 a night at the MGM or any Vegas hotel then something is very wrong.

Think how much you would spend gambling tho. Haha

Regardless. This event isn’t big enough for Vegas to care about.

Las Vegas bowl had an official attendance of 20,897 this year, and that was with Utah (neighboring state) being in the game. FCS title in Vegas can pull that easily.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

I couldn’t agree less with this take. You will see when you get there. The venue and location is perfect and it’s a perfect size for the schools that make it. When the dakotas or Montanas make the game the venue is packed and it’s a great atmosphere. Any other teams and the stadium would be half full. The stadium is perfect for this event.

Frisco is a great host. From everything I’ve heard the city does a great job with the logistics and I’m not surprised. I’ve worked closely with many of the city leaders in Frisco and their EDC. They are world class. There is a reason all of the HQs and PGA and universal studios is moving to Frisco. They do a great job.

The location of DFW north Texas would be hard to beat. It’s centrally located in the country and it’s one of the easiest cities to fly into from where ever you are at in the country. There are direct flights from Missoula Bozeman Billings Bismarck into DFW. Do you think Chattanooga or somewhere like that would be easier to fly to?

The weather is typically good or decent. Usually in the mid 50s-60s. People mention Vegas but the truth is the FCS championship is too small of an event for Vegas to even care about. Frisco cares and they do an amazing job of hosting the teams and fans. Everyone will see that when they get down to Texas and see how easy everything flows and how much stuff there is to do in the area.

The city doesn’t have anything to do with the ticket sales or cost of flights being raised.

Also QB club members were told that our seats would be somewhere in between sections 101-109 so those at least shouldn’t be in the end zones. Yet to see if that’s true or not.

Completely agree with this take on the location. Having flown in and out of Montana for the last ten years with season tickets I can tell you that travel in general out of Montana is expensive ( general supply and demand). With enough time to plan there are options but on short notice (ie. the 3 week after the last playoff before the championship) one of the best places in the country for access is DFW and that includes Vegas. There are plenty of inexpensive options for hotels but most seem to think that staying right in Frisco is a must. As BLGF mentioned Plano., Addison, McKinney, the Colony are all a short Uber away. I went to all the games in Chattanooga and I can tell you first hand ... not easy and not a lot of hotel options...

As far as the stadium goes it's ridiculous to think that having a larger stadium will make for a better experience... just look at some of this weeks bowl games in stadiums that are 25% filled. Toyota Stadium is a great place to watch a game, good size, great site lines, easy parking, plenty of concessions, restrooms and lots of walking around space not to mention a legit SRO area(s) that you can actually see the game. Top this off they have one of the best run facility's in the state with a great staff.

Ticketing is another issue ... NCAA controls that and the schools are forced to do as they say. History says sell as many as you can in the summer to mitigate potential losses, can't always guarantee teams that make the Natty will travel well. Sorry for the QB Club but as I mentioned, no bad seats in this place and if what was mentioned before as to where their ticket allocation is they will be just fine...

No gambling unless you want to drive an hour north to Oklahoma but lots of eating and drinking locations to choose from... plus the weather should be great for game day!

I took the risk and purchased a flight for a family member out of Bismarck a week before the game that was roughly $450. About what Is typical any other time of the year. Added to the pressure of the NDSU game . I didn’t want flight credit. Haha.

I also think a lot of people still associate the horrible field conditions from 10 years ago with this venue. They’re not perfect but they seem to improve every year. I didn’t think the field was terrible for the last three years or so. I went to the Bobcat game and from what I could tell it didn’t look like it was coming up too bad.

 

[ilovethecats]

Frankly, the whole thing is being ran pretty poorly, despite them hosting for several years now. It seems like quite a few people who would have traveled did not due to the cost and the difficulty in getting a ticket. But, let's just say you're QB club or GSA and were able to get tickets. That's great, but you don't get to pick where you're sitting and you get to wait wondering if you're sideline, endzone, etc. But don't worry, some person, at some point, will allocate the seats and let you know where you'll be.

Ultimately, the venue is just too small, which contributes (albeit not the sole reason) to the prices being so bad. Additionally, the location is not convenient for any of the northern teams (you know, the ones who actually make the championship). Vegas is at least a cheap flight, good transportation in the city, and good venue. It makes so much more sense.

I'm going, and I know it will be a fun time, but it's all a little absurd.

I couldn’t agree less with this take. You will see when you get there. The venue and location is perfect and it’s a perfect size for the schools that make it. When the dakotas or Montanas make the game the venue is packed and it’s a great atmosphere. Any other teams and the stadium would be half full. The stadium is perfect for this event.

Frisco is a great host. From everything I’ve heard the city does a great job with the logistics and I’m not surprised. I’ve worked closely with many of the city leaders in Frisco and their EDC. They are world class. There is a reason all of the HQs and PGA and universal studios is moving to Frisco. They do a great job.

The location of DFW north Texas would be hard to beat. It’s centrally located in the country and it’s one of the easiest cities to fly into from where ever you are at in the country. There are direct flights from Missoula Bozeman Billings Bismarck into DFW. Do you think Chattanooga or somewhere like that would be easier to fly to?

The weather is typically good or decent. Usually in the mid 50s-60s. People mention Vegas but the truth is the FCS championship is too small of an event for Vegas to even care about. Frisco cares and they do an amazing job of hosting the teams and fans. Everyone will see that when they get down to Texas and see how easy everything flows and how much stuff there is to do in the area.

The city doesn’t have anything to do with the ticket sales or cost of flights being raised.

Also QB club members were told that our seats would be somewhere in between sections 101-109 so those at least shouldn’t be in the end zones. Yet to see if that’s true or not.

This is a great point. Think we all agree that Vegas would be a great time. But as a whole they wouldn't give a crap about our game. When I was in Frisco, everywhere we went people seemed to be so happy to have us. Our Uber driver knew both teams playing. Bar and restaurants had banners put up. Talking to bartenders they look forward to that weekend. Make great money and the vibe is excellent. It was actually a huge part of my experience that everywhere we went they seemed to welcome us and appreciated having us there.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

I couldn’t agree less with this take. You will see when you get there. The venue and location is perfect and it’s a perfect size for the schools that make it. When the dakotas or Montanas make the game the venue is packed and it’s a great atmosphere. Any other teams and the stadium would be half full. The stadium is perfect for this event.

Frisco is a great host. From everything I’ve heard the city does a great job with the logistics and I’m not surprised. I’ve worked closely with many of the city leaders in Frisco and their EDC. They are world class. There is a reason all of the HQs and PGA and universal studios is moving to Frisco. They do a great job.

The location of DFW north Texas would be hard to beat. It’s centrally located in the country and it’s one of the easiest cities to fly into from where ever you are at in the country. There are direct flights from Missoula Bozeman Billings Bismarck into DFW. Do you think Chattanooga or somewhere like that would be easier to fly to?

The weather is typically good or decent. Usually in the mid 50s-60s. People mention Vegas but the truth is the FCS championship is too small of an event for Vegas to even care about. Frisco cares and they do an amazing job of hosting the teams and fans. Everyone will see that when they get down to Texas and see how easy everything flows and how much stuff there is to do in the area.

The city doesn’t have anything to do with the ticket sales or cost of flights being raised.

Also QB club members were told that our seats would be somewhere in between sections 101-109 so those at least shouldn’t be in the end zones. Yet to see if that’s true or not.

This is a great point. Think we all agree that Vegas would be a great time. But as a whole they wouldn't give a crap about our game. When I was in Frisco, everywhere we went people seemed to be so happy to have us. Our Uber driver knew both teams playing. Bar and restaurants had banners put up. Talking to bartenders they look forward to that weekend. Make great money and the vibe is excellent. It was actually a huge part of my experience that everywhere we went they seemed to welcome us and appreciated having us there.

They really do. They play great host. Just added to my agony as a Griz fan having to see NDSU and SDSU and Cats every year since I’ve lived in the area. Haha.

I would also bet you’d be hard pressed to find a city in America with direct flights to Missoula Bozeman and Billings not to mention Bismarck. Vegas might be about the only one outside of DFW.

 

[reinell30]

I fly to Vegas all the time. no matter when I travel, I can fly round trip for around $189 per person. I stay at Ceasars Palace usually for under $35 per night.
If the venue was in Vegas, people would come just because it was Vegas. Yes, the scalpers will be out there and raise prices, just like everywhere, but what can you do about that. If Furman and Delaware were playing this game in Frisco maybe 10K fans, but if they were playing in Vegas, probably 20K or more? Yes, speculation I know. If anyone would have to pay $500 a night at the MGM or any Vegas hotel then something is very wrong.

Think how much you would spend gambling tho. Haha

Regardless. This event isn’t big enough for Vegas to care about.

This is really sad but so true!

 

['68griz]

I couldn’t agree less with this take. You will see when you get there. The venue and location is perfect and it’s a perfect size for the schools that make it. When the dakotas or Montanas make the game the venue is packed and it’s a great atmosphere. Any other teams and the stadium would be half full. The stadium is perfect for this event.

Frisco is a great host. From everything I’ve heard the city does a great job with the logistics and I’m not surprised. I’ve worked closely with many of the city leaders in Frisco and their EDC. They are world class. There is a reason all of the HQs and PGA and universal studios is moving to Frisco. They do a great job.

The location of DFW north Texas would be hard to beat. It’s centrally located in the country and it’s one of the easiest cities to fly into from where ever you are at in the country. There are direct flights from Missoula Bozeman Billings Bismarck into DFW. Do you think Chattanooga or somewhere like that would be easier to fly to?

The weather is typically good or decent. Usually in the mid 50s-60s. People mention Vegas but the truth is the FCS championship is too small of an event for Vegas to even care about. Frisco cares and they do an amazing job of hosting the teams and fans. Everyone will see that when they get down to Texas and see how easy everything flows and how much stuff there is to do in the area.

The city doesn’t have anything to do with the ticket sales or cost of flights being raised.

Also QB club members were told that our seats would be somewhere in between sections 101-109 so those at least shouldn’t be in the end zones. Yet to see if that’s true or not.

This is a great point. Think we all agree that Vegas would be a great time. But as a whole they wouldn't give a crap about our game. When I was in Frisco, everywhere we went people seemed to be so happy to have us. Our Uber driver knew both teams playing. Bar and restaurants had banners put up. Talking to bartenders they look forward to that weekend. Make great money and the vibe is excellent. It was actually a huge part of my experience that everywhere we went they seemed to welcome us and appreciated having us there.

It was that way in Chattanooga too. Went there twice and had a great time on both occasions.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Frankly, the whole thing is being ran pretty poorly, despite them hosting for several years now. It seems like quite a few people who would have traveled did not due to the cost and the difficulty in getting a ticket. But, let's just say you're QB club or GSA and were able to get tickets. That's great, but you don't get to pick where you're sitting and you get to wait wondering if you're sideline, endzone, etc. But don't worry, some person, at some point, will allocate the seats and let you know where you'll be.

Ultimately, the venue is just too small, which contributes (albeit not the sole reason) to the prices being so bad. Additionally, the location is not convenient for any of the northern teams (you know, the ones who actually make the championship). Vegas is at least a cheap flight, good transportation in the city, and good venue. It makes so much more sense.

I'm going, and I know it will be a fun time, but it's all a little absurd.

Too small? It has yet to sell out a championship game.

 

[AZGrizFan]

This is a great point. Think we all agree that Vegas would be a great time. But as a whole they wouldn't give a crap about our game. When I was in Frisco, everywhere we went people seemed to be so happy to have us. Our Uber driver knew both teams playing. Bar and restaurants had banners put up. Talking to bartenders they look forward to that weekend. Make great money and the vibe is excellent. It was actually a huge part of my experience that everywhere we went they seemed to welcome us and appreciated having us there.

They really do. They play great host. Just added to my agony as a Griz fan having to see NDSU and SDSU and Cats every year since I’ve lived in the area. Haha.

I would also bet you’d be hard pressed to find a city in America with direct flights to Missoula Bozeman and Billings not to mention Bismarck. Vegas might be about the only one outside of DFW.

Well, to be fair, you can fly to ANY hub city from Missoula. Minneapolis, Chicago, SLC, Denver, Dallas, etc. I agree though, Dallas is the best choice of those listed…

 

[Griz Addict]

Really, the game should just be somewhere up North. Play it in Wyoming, easy drive lol.

 

[MikeyGriz]

Really, the game should just be somewhere up North. Play it in Wyoming, easy drive lol.

Not an easy drive to Laramie. My buddy and I drove to the wyoming game several years ago from Billings. It was close to the middle of nowhere.

 

[MrTitleist]

If you think that the FCS championship would be played at Allegiant Stadium if this was in Vegas... well, I have bad news. This game would probs be relegated to the old UNLV stadium out in the middle of nowhere. Bigger? Yes. Easy to get to? No.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

They really do. They play great host. Just added to my agony as a Griz fan having to see NDSU and SDSU and Cats every year since I’ve lived in the area. Haha.

I would also bet you’d be hard pressed to find a city in America with direct flights to Missoula Bozeman and Billings not to mention Bismarck. Vegas might be about the only one outside of DFW.

Well, to be fair, you can fly to ANY hub city from Missoula. Minneapolis, Chicago, SLC, Denver, Dallas, etc. I agree though, Dallas is the best choice of those listed…

Right. I meant all of them having the same options tho. Maybe they do? I was too young when we went to Chattanooga in 2021. Where did everyone fly into back then? Must have been a couple layovers.

 

[griz4life]

Frisco is on its third contract to host, I think. I'm not a fan of the chipper being in a soccer venue, but for most of FCS that's an upgrade so you have to deal with it.

I liked Chattanooga, but the travel wasn't fair at all. Griz fans would fly across country. East Coast fans would drive over the morning of the game. Always made me mad.

 

[Grisly Fan]

Why does anyone care if the city wants to host the game or not? Fans go to see the game not visit the visitor center or the welcome wagon. From what I saw pricing hotels,, the prices went way up as the dates got closer to the game. I’m sure they are “quite pleased” to host. As for Las Vegas, yes the game would probably be held in “hard to get to” Sam Boyd Stadium 6.4 miles from the Las Vegas Airport while the conversely “easy to get to” Frisco Stadium is 25 miles from the Dallas/Fort Worth Airport. And you can pretty much guarantee that nobody in Vegas is going to jack local prices due to the game. There is no logical reason not to try to have Vegas host the game.

 

[EverettGriz]

Why does anyone care if the city wants to host the game or not? Fans go to see the game not visit the visitor center or the welcome wagon. From what I saw pricing hotels,, the prices went way up as the dates got closer to the game. I’m sure they are “quite pleased” to host. As for Las Vegas, yes the game would probably be held in “hard to get to” Sam Boyd Stadium 6.4 miles from the Las Vegas Airport while the conversely “easy to get to” Frisco Stadium is 25 miles from the Dallas/Fort Worth Airport. And you can pretty much guarantee that nobody in Vegas is going to jack local prices due to the game. There is no logical reason not to try to have Vegas host the game.

Because for me, much of the excitement from a trip to the championship comes from 20,000 fans (10k of them GRIZ) congregated into a smaller community. In Chattanooga, it was freakin' fantastic to walk into, say, Sticky Fingers and see a sea of Maroon, and have all of the waitstaff welcome you with "Go GRIZ", and not care a bit if the entire restaurant breaks into a raucous "MONTANA...GRIZZLIES" cheer. I think much of that will be lost in Frisco, and I KNOW it would in vegas.

I love Vegas, but I'd rather be the center of attention rather than just another convention.

 

[Grisly Fan]

Why does anyone care if the city wants to host the game or not? Fans go to see the game not visit the visitor center or the welcome wagon. From what I saw pricing hotels,, the prices went way up as the dates got closer to the game. I’m sure they are “quite pleased” to host. As for Las Vegas, yes the game would probably be held in “hard to get to” Sam Boyd Stadium 6.4 miles from the Las Vegas Airport while the conversely “easy to get to” Frisco Stadium is 25 miles from the Dallas/Fort Worth Airport. And you can pretty much guarantee that nobody in Vegas is going to jack local prices due to the game. There is no logical reason not to try to have Vegas host the game.

Because for me, much of the excitement from a trip to the championship comes from 20,000 fans (10k of them GRIZ) congregated into a smaller community. In Chattanooga, it was freakin' fantastic to walk into, say, Sticky Fingers and see a sea of Maroon, and have all of the waitstaff welcome you with "Go GRIZ", and not care a bit if the entire restaurant breaks into a raucous "MONTANA...GRIZZLIES" cheer. I think much of that will be lost in Frisco, and I KNOW it would in vegas.

I love Vegas, but I'd rather be the center of attention rather than just another convention.

I know at least 5 family members who could afford to go to the game (including me) if it was 1/2 the cost of Frisco (my guess).

 

[EverettGriz]

Because for me, much of the excitement from a trip to the championship comes from 20,000 fans (10k of them GRIZ) congregated into a smaller community. In Chattanooga, it was freakin' fantastic to walk into, say, Sticky Fingers and see a sea of Maroon, and have all of the waitstaff welcome you with "Go GRIZ", and not care a bit if the entire restaurant breaks into a raucous "MONTANA...GRIZZLIES" cheer. I think much of that will be lost in Frisco, and I KNOW it would in vegas.

I love Vegas, but I'd rather be the center of attention rather than just another convention.

I know at least 5 family members who could afford to go to the game (including me) if it was 1/2 the cost of Frisco (my guess).

Okay, but would it be cheaper in vegas? Look, airlines aren't stupid. As soon as Montana won that game and demand for tickets to DFW increased, so did prices. It wouldn't be any different to LV. The moment GRIZ fans in Montana started buying airfare, the prices to vegas would spike just as they did to DFW. Especially in a place like Montana, with so few flights, and limited competition.

And hotels are probably cheaper in and around Frisco than they are in Vegas over a weekend.

 

[Grisly Fan]

I know at least 5 family members who could afford to go to the game (including me) if it was 1/2 the cost of Frisco (my guess).

Okay, but would it be cheaper in vegas? Look, airlines aren't stupid. As soon as Montana won that game and demand for tickets to DFW increased, so did prices. It wouldn't be any different to LV. The moment GRIZ fans in Montana started buying airfare, the prices to vegas would spike just as they did to DFW. Especially in a place like Montana, with so few flights, and limited competition.

And hotels are probably cheaper in and around Frisco than they are in Vegas over a weekend.

There are a lot of fans like me who unfortunately don’t live in Montana. Flights are not the greatest opportunity for saving. Rooms and transportation are. I would have to rent a car if I go to Frisco. I could taxi to the strip and to the stadium plus there is a whole lot more I could do for my $1200 if I was in Vegas other than just go to the game.

 

[EverettGriz]

Okay, but would it be cheaper in vegas? Look, airlines aren't stupid. As soon as Montana won that game and demand for tickets to DFW increased, so did prices. It wouldn't be any different to LV. The moment GRIZ fans in Montana started buying airfare, the prices to vegas would spike just as they did to DFW. Especially in a place like Montana, with so few flights, and limited competition.

And hotels are probably cheaper in and around Frisco than they are in Vegas over a weekend.

There are a lot of fans like me who unfortunately don’t live in Montana. Flights are not the greatest opportunity for saving. Rooms and transportation are. I would have to rent a car if I go to Frisco. I could taxi to the strip and to the stadium plus there is a whole lot more I could do for my $1200 if I was in Vegas other than just go to the game.

I don’t live in Montana either. But I guess I’m just not seeing the cost savings of holding the game in Vegas. And I’m not renting a car in Frisco.