Field goals

[markson161]

Nope. Every coach has their own brand. It's not ego to believe in that brand. And it's absolutely MORONIC, which many Griz fans are acting these days, to expect a coach who was HIRED based on his philosophies, to change those philosophies after FIVE games at that program. Dude, seriously, the 25-30 posters on here who believe they are better coaches than Stitt are the one's with an ego problem. An absolutely delusional and deranged ego at that.

A lot of people are good interviewers, doesn't make them the right person for the job.

 

[PhxGriz]

...football is evolving...
...60 % of texas high schools...
...running these high rolling offenses...

... ...

Meanwhile teams like Cal Poly run an old time offense and seem to be competitive doing so.

And why did Stitt develop this offense? Because much like Poly, he didn't have the personnel to run a pro set.

 

[George Ferguson]

Glendive, I'm not gonna argue with you. Stitt isn't any different than any other head coach worth his salt. They don't change their entire freakin style, scheme and philosophy, things they've been developing for decades, five games in. That isn't ego, it's the job. If in three years, Stitt's beliefs, style, schemes and philosophies don't work, well then he won't be rewarded with a new contract now will he. Tell me this, is "ego" the entire reason the Red Devils have been one of the single worst football program's in Class A for the better part of 10 years now?

 

[Grizzoola]

tnt, so Stitt assumed he would not see the ball again because of the poor defense even though there was still almost 7 minutes left in the 3rd quarter?

I don't know about again..... But very little. We had a struggling offense, a new QB, and Weber offense that could move at will on the ground and was controlling the temp of the game.

This has been my contention. TG has to do something re: run D.

 

[statler & waldorf]

It isn't ego, it's his system and his football philosophy. He told the search committee, Haslam, Engstrom, the GSA, and anyone else involved in the hiring process that he didn't like kicking field goals. He told them his belief is that he's giving up on the offense when he sends the kicker or punter out there. He told them that UP FRONT, he didn't hide it, it was no secret, and he was hired and given a three-year contract even after he made that point very, very, very clear to everyone involved with the University of Montana football program. He was hired based on his offensive philosophies, his principles on what he believes a football program should be on and off the field, and he was hired because he was bringing a refreshing viewpoint to the program. He's not going to change his philosophies now, and that's not ego. He has been given the reigns to do the job HIS WAY. Even after the Weber game, he's going to go for it more often than he's going to kick. He will kick some too, but not as much as conventional coaches do. That's the Montana Grizzlies under Bob Stitt and it's not changing.

You were THERE with the search committee, Haslam, Engstrom, the GSA, and anyone else involved in the hiring process, and know FIRST HAND what he told them about his philisophy about on and off field issues, and made his refreshing viewpoint very, very, very clear? I must apologize, as I truly didn't know how important and influentual you are/were. At first, I thought you were speculating, or connecting the dots, as us commoners do. Forgive me, as I'll try harder in the future.

 

[George Ferguson]

Statler, No, I wasn't there, but yes, I do know for a fact that Stitt's philosophies on going for it on fourth down, field goal kicking and punting were discussed at GREAT LENGTH during the hiring process. Yes, I absolutely know for a fact he laid that out for Kent and others numerous times.

 

[Glendivegriz]

Perhaps Havre because they should have been class b for ten years now. Wow. You got me with the high school shot.

 

[markson161]

Perhaps Havre because they should have been class b for ten years now. Wow. You got me with the high school shot.

:thumb:

 

[George Ferguson]

I wasn't trying to "get you" Glendive, I was actually asking. You seem to blaming a loss on ONE thing, ego. Your tone to me at least, seems like you are one of the many who think that coaching is the single only reason a football team fails. And in this case, it sounds like the coaching mistake you're referring to in the Weber game is, the head coach having too big of an ego. Am I not correct? If I'm not, I apologize. If I am right, and that is your contention, then I was asking, is the head coach at Glendive's ego getting in the way of success?

As to Glendive's issue of Class A OR Class B, well Dillon, Butte Central and Billings Central are all also below the Class A enrollment line.

 

[Grizzoola]

It isn't ego, it's his system and his football philosophy. He told the search committee, Haslam, Engstrom, the GSA, and anyone else involved in the hiring process that he didn't like kicking field goals. He told them his belief is that he's giving up on the offense when he sends the kicker or punter out there. He told them that UP FRONT, he didn't hide it, it was no secret, and he was hired and given a three-year contract even after he made that point very, very, very clear to everyone involved with the University of Montana football program. He was hired based on his offensive philosophies, his principles on what he believes a football program should be on and off the field, and he was hired because he was bringing a refreshing viewpoint to the program. He's not going to change his philosophies now, and that's not ego. He has been given the reigns to do the job HIS WAY. Even after the Weber game, he's going to go for it more often than he's going to kick. He will kick some too, but not as much as conventional coaches do. That's the Montana Grizzlies under Bob Stitt and it's not changing.

We'll see how long he sticks to that philosophy. He has to consider the amount of pressure he's putting on his O. BH knew the value of FGs, and rode them to many season and playoff successes. Any more, just like in the NFL, FGs are the difference between wins and losses. Stitt is showing an old, prideful philosophy that football gets down to grind it out, while the rest of the conference, the FCS, the BCS, and the NFL are beyond this. Maybe Coach Stitt is not as innovative as we think and he claims.

 

[Glendivegriz]

Well we have just bluntly sucks for several reasons and I'm not prepared to air on this forum. The topic is field goals referring to the as I game. So yes.

 

[Grizzoola]

Well we have just bluntly sucks for several reasons and I'm not prepared to air on this forum. The topic is field goals referring to the as I game. So yes.

This post absolutely makes no sense. Where did your HS English teachers let you down?

 

[poorgriz]

Well we have just bluntly sucks for several reasons and I'm not prepared to air on this forum. The topic is field goals referring to the as I game. So yes.

This post absolutely makes no sense. Where did your HS English teachers let you down?

My guess would be Glendive.

 

[77matcat]

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[statler & waldorf]

Statler, No, I wasn't there, but yes, I do know for a fact that Stitt's philosophies on going for it on fourth down, field goal kicking and punting were discussed at GREAT LENGTH during the hiring process. Yes, I absolutely know for a fact he laid that out for Kent and others numerous times.

No problem. State facts and back them with references for verification, or speculate like the rest of us.

 

[marceagfan5]

Passing on field goals inside the 30 was "ego" driven and should be discussed as such. You can certainly accept passing on one of the FG's but not two. Personally, I can see this devil may care attitude (ego) of Coach Stitt and it flies in the face of solid coaching. Yes, we need help in the O line and many other places, but we have quality people in key places. Who in this league would not want Roberts, Henderson, & Jones for their starting wide outs? Throw those quick slants and crossing patterns and let the receiver run with the ball. We don't need 40 yard throws. Kick the FG's, coach smart, get rid of the ego. Think about that!!

The Big Sky is full of teams with good offenses and poor defenses, FG's aren't going to win a lot of games. Hell, Eastern has only attempted 1 FG the entire season.

Stitt wants to put 7 on the board and I think his philosophy is if its 50/50 on 4th down, I'll take the chance of getting 7 once than getting 6 on two field goals. Time will tell how this will work and Stitt will have to adapt some of his concepts at the D1 level but I don't think its a ego thing...

 

[markson161]

Statler, No, I wasn't there, but yes, I do know for a fact that Stitt's philosophies on going for it on fourth down, field goal kicking and punting were discussed at GREAT LENGTH during the hiring process. Yes, I absolutely know for a fact he laid that out for Kent and others numerous times.

No problem. State facts and back them with references for verification, or speculate like the rest of us.

I doubt his ego will allow that

 

[kemajic]

Statler, No, I wasn't there, but yes, I do know for a fact that Stitt's philosophies on going for it on fourth down, field goal kicking and punting were discussed at GREAT LENGTH during the hiring process. Yes, I absolutely know for a fact he laid that out for Kent and others numerous times.

I think he also laid out that he would score a ton of TDs. Montana is currently 9th in the BSC in TDs per game. And ironically, Sullivan is leading the BSC in field goals.

 

[markson161]

Passing on field goals inside the 30 was "ego" driven and should be discussed as such. You can certainly accept passing on one of the FG's but not two. Personally, I can see this devil may care attitude (ego) of Coach Stitt and it flies in the face of solid coaching. Yes, we need help in the O line and many other places, but we have quality people in key places. Who in this league would not want Roberts, Henderson, & Jones for their starting wide outs? Throw those quick slants and crossing patterns and let the receiver run with the ball. We don't need 40 yard throws. Kick the FG's, coach smart, get rid of the ego. Think about that!!

The Big Sky is full of teams with good offenses and poor defenses, FG's aren't going to win a lot of games. Hell, Eastern has only attempted 1 FG the entire season.

Stitt wants to put 7 on the board and I think his philosophy is if its 50/50 on 4th down, I'll take the chance of getting 7 once than getting 6 on two field goals. Time will tell how this will work and Stitt will have to adapt some of his concepts at the D1 level but I don't think its a ego thing...

The Griz are not scoring 45-55 points a game, they need what they can get

 

[grizindabox]

Statler, No, I wasn't there, but yes, I do know for a fact that Stitt's philosophies on going for it on fourth down, field goal kicking and punting were discussed at GREAT LENGTH during the hiring process. Yes, I absolutely know for a fact he laid that out for Kent and others numerous times.

I think he also laid out that he would score a ton of TDs. Montana is currently 9th in the BSC in TDs per game. And ironically, Sullivan is leading the BSC in field goals.

All which relate to struggles in the red zone...because of execution...