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Field goals

grizindabox said:
brewskis said:
IdahoGrizFan said:
brewskis said:
Hindsight is 20/20, if he would have gotten one of them then we would have praised it.

He owned it in his postgame presser and didn't shift blame. He's got balls, I like it honestly....we needed someone to come in and mix things up, and he's delivered. Plus, HE GOT TO THE RED ZONE. I have a hard time believing that Delaney would have even had half as many red zone trips as Stitt by this time in the season.

What did he say anyway? I live in Spokane and when the game was over the feed shut off.
He didn't think we would have another trip to the red zone so he wanted to attempt to get the tie while we were there.

I was thinking this also, since the 3rd string QB was playing...but I found it odd that the offensive genius Stitt had absolutely no confidence in his offense....

In case you missed, the game was lost in the first half by the DEFENSE. In the second half the DEFENSE still couldn't control the run and consequently the clock. Getting the ball back was questionable. Weber had us on TOP AND Play count. I think it was a fair strategy to think the only way we could WIN outright was with the TD. Our defenses was flat footed from the first quarter, I'm not even sure they knew it was game day.
 
tnt, so Stitt assumed he would not see the ball again because of the poor defense even though there was still almost 7 minutes left in the 3rd quarter?
 
grizindabox said:
tnt, so Stitt assumed he would not see the ball again because of the poor defense even though there was still almost 7 minutes left in the 3rd quarter?

I don't know about again..... But very little. We had a struggling offense, a new QB, and Weber offense that could move at will on the ground and was controlling the temp of the game.
 
Joseppy said:
"He owned it at the Press conference" It is called arrogance. Yes, there are many problems to correct, but isn't that a problem with every team in some form or another as the season progresses? We have ego/arrogance and yes, stupidity, are coming from one source and he won't change. I suspect he will ride the excuse of three qb's through the next loss as well. If his strategy was any good, more teams would be doing it. Name the coaches who are doing it? (passing on FG inside the 30, going on 4th down deep in your own territory early on, Putting extra pressure on the defense like the last Poly drive by not punting).

You probably didn't like Hauck because he was the definition of arrogance. We need that in a coach. And if Stitt's strategy isn't any good, then why have several FBS and NFL coaches met with Stitt and adopted some of his ideas?
 
markson161 said:
brewskis said:
Hindsight is 20/20, if he would have gotten one of them then we would have praised it.

He owned it in his postgame presser and didn't shift blame. He's got balls, I like it honestly....we needed someone to come in and mix things up, and he's delivered. Plus, HE GOT TO THE RED ZONE. I have a hard time believing that Delaney would have even had half as many red zone trips as Stitt by this time in the season.


There were more points scored in the first 6 games last year than so far this year.

We also had Jordan Johnson. I guarantee you that if we had JJ this year, we'd be scoring in bunches.
 
MrTitleist said:
griz692002 said:
I have said from the beginning that I am not a fan of a gimmick Offense and it was only going to take 1 or 2 teams to figure out how to slow it down and beat us then we are going to be begging Bobby Hauck to come back and show us how to consistently win again. I did give the offense the benefit of doubt at first but the more I see the more I disagree.

What exactly is the "gimmick" of this offense?

Trying to run 100+ plays so you tire them out in the 4th quarter (Stitt has describe this idea). Haven't seen it pay off that is for sure.
 
Ursus1 said:
MrTitleist said:
griz692002 said:
I have said from the beginning that I am not a fan of a gimmick Offense and it was only going to take 1 or 2 teams to figure out how to slow it down and beat us then we are going to be begging Bobby Hauck to come back and show us how to consistently win again. I did give the offense the benefit of doubt at first but the more I see the more I disagree.

What exactly is the "gimmick" of this offense?

Trying to run 100+ plays so you tire them out in the 4th quarter (Stitt has describe this idea). Haven't seen it pay off that is for sure.

so it is on par with the Poly triple-option or Wazzu's air-raid offense for amount of gimmick? (those guys that want to run or pass the ball everytime)

Guess the Griz need to run the same think as UNDSU...a none gimmick offense....
 
grizindabox said:
Ursus1 said:
MrTitleist said:
griz692002 said:
I have said from the beginning that I am not a fan of a gimmick Offense and it was only going to take 1 or 2 teams to figure out how to slow it down and beat us then we are going to be begging Bobby Hauck to come back and show us how to consistently win again. I did give the offense the benefit of doubt at first but the more I see the more I disagree.

What exactly is the "gimmick" of this offense?

Trying to run 100+ plays so you tire them out in the 4th quarter (Stitt has describe this idea). Haven't seen it pay off that is for sure.

so it is on par with the Poly triple-option or Wazzu's air-raid offense for amount of gimmick? (those guys that want to run or pass the ball everytime)

Guess the Griz need to run the same think as UNDSU...a none gimmick offense....

Or Oregon, or Texas Tech, or the New England Patriots... you know, that kind of gimmick
 
get'em_griz said:
markson161 said:
brewskis said:
Hindsight is 20/20, if he would have gotten one of them then we would have praised it.

He owned it in his postgame presser and didn't shift blame. He's got balls, I like it honestly....we needed someone to come in and mix things up, and he's delivered. Plus, HE GOT TO THE RED ZONE. I have a hard time believing that Delaney would have even had half as many red zone trips as Stitt by this time in the season.


There were more points scored in the first 6 games last year than so far this year.

We also had Jordan Johnson. I guarantee you that if we had JJ this year, we'd be scoring in bunches.

But we don't, just an 'offensive genius'
 
markson161 said:
get'em_griz said:
markson161 said:
brewskis said:
Hindsight is 20/20, if he would have gotten one of them then we would have praised it.

He owned it in his postgame presser and didn't shift blame. He's got balls, I like it honestly....we needed someone to come in and mix things up, and he's delivered. Plus, HE GOT TO THE RED ZONE. I have a hard time believing that Delaney would have even had half as many red zone trips as Stitt by this time in the season.


There were more points scored in the first 6 games last year than so far this year.

We also had Jordan Johnson. I guarantee you that if we had JJ this year, we'd be scoring in bunches.

But we don't, just an 'offensive genius'

How is that offensive genius in Eugene doing without a quality QB?
 
Just a couple weeks ago, it wasn't a sure thing the Griz would make their fieldgoals. I like the idea of winning by six as much as I like the idea of winning big if we just played --insert your favorite backup here.
 
He owned it in his postgame presser and didn't shift blame. He's got balls, I like it honestly....we needed someone to come in and mix things up, and he's delivered. Plus, HE GOT TO THE RED ZONE. I have a hard time believing that Delaney would have even had half as many red zone trips as Stitt by this time in the season.[/quote]


There were more points scored in the first 6 games last year than so far this year.[/quote]

We also had Jordan Johnson. I guarantee you that if we had JJ this year, we'd be scoring in bunches.[/quote]

But we don't, just an 'offensive genius'[/quote]

How is that offensive genius in Eugene doing without a quality QB?[/quote

Quarterback has been there 4 years, guess 'genius' is a relative term
 
grizindabox said:
markson161 said:
Quarterback has been there 4 years, guess 'genius' is a relative term

Doesn't mean he is quality or the right fit....

The 2 rotating quarterbacks must have seemed to be the right fit to the OC and Quarterbacks Coach "aka Genius" at the time they were recruited. Enough with Oregon Football, they've been overrated for much to long.
 
markson161 said:
grizindabox said:
markson161 said:
Quarterback has been there 4 years, guess 'genius' is a relative term

Doesn't mean he is quality or the right fit....

The 2 rotating quarterbacks must have seemed to be the right fit to the OC and Quarterbacks Coach "aka Genius" at the time they were recruited. Enough with Oregon Football, they've been overrated for much to long.

thought that you meant Gus...
 
Joseppy said:
Passing on field goals inside the 30 was "ego" driven and should be discussed as such. You can certainly accept passing on one of the FG's but not two. Personally, I can see this devil may care attitude (ego) of Coach Stitt and it flies in the face of solid coaching. Yes, we need help in the O line and many other places, but we have quality people in key places. Who in this league would not want Roberts, Henderson, & Jones for their starting wide outs? Throw those quick slants and crossing patterns and let the receiver run with the ball. We don't need 40 yard throws. Kick the FG's, coach smart, get rid of the ego. Think about that!!

Fully agree!
 
It isn't ego, it's his system and his football philosophy. He told the search committee, Haslam, Engstrom, the GSA, and anyone else involved in the hiring process that he didn't like kicking field goals. He told them his belief is that he's giving up on the offense when he sends the kicker or punter out there. He told them that UP FRONT, he didn't hide it, it was no secret, and he was hired and given a three-year contract even after he made that point very, very, very clear to everyone involved with the University of Montana football program. He was hired based on his offensive philosophies, his principles on what he believes a football program should be on and off the field, and he was hired because he was bringing a refreshing viewpoint to the program. He's not going to change his philosophies now, and that's not ego. He has been given the reigns to do the job HIS WAY. Even after the Weber game, he's going to go for it more often than he's going to kick. He will kick some too, but not as much as conventional coaches do. That's the Montana Grizzlies under Bob Stitt and it's not changing.
 
havgrizfan said:
It isn't ego, it's his system and his football philosophy. He told the search committee, Haslam, Engstrom, the GSA, and anyone else involved in the hiring process that he didn't like kicking field goals. He told them his belief is that he's giving up on the offense when he sends the kicker or punter out there. He told them that UP FRONT, he didn't hide it, it was no secret, and he was hired and given a three-year contract even after he made that point very, very, very clear to everyone involved with the University of Montana football program. He was hired based on his offensive philosophies, his principles on what he believes a football program should be on and off the field, and he was hired because he was bringing a refreshing viewpoint to the program. He's not going to change his philosophies now, and that's not ego. He has been given the reigns to do the job HIS WAY. Even after the Weber game, he's going to go for it more often than he's going to kick. He will kick some too, but not as much as conventional coaches do. That's the Montana Grizzlies under Bob Stitt and it's not changing.

Sounds like an ego thing then.
 
Nope. Every coach has their own brand. It's not ego to believe in that brand. And it's absolutely MORONIC, which many Griz fans are acting these days, to expect a coach who was HIRED based on his philosophies, to change those philosophies after FIVE games at that program. Dude, seriously, the 25-30 posters on here who believe they are better coaches than Stitt are the one's with an ego problem. An absolutely delusional and deranged ego at that.
 
havgrizfan said:
Nope. Every coach has their own brand. It's not ego to believe in that brand. And it's absolutely MORONIC, which many Griz fans are acting these days, to expect a coach who was HIRED based on his philosophies, to change those philosophies after FIVE games at that program. Dude, seriously, the 25-30 posters on here who believe they are better coaches than Stitt are the one's with an ego problem. An absolutely delusional and deranged ego at that.

Think you need to look up the definition of ego then dude. A strict adherence to the personal belief that you or your beliefs are absolutely the right way with such rigidity is ego. A philosophy is much more of a guideline.
 
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