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EWU AD...no extra seats .....smh

CDAGRIZ said:
grizindabox said:
I actually have no problems with the decision.

Less surprising than the decision itself. :roll:

It is a NCAA sponsored event, so I understand if EWU does not want to foot the bill so the NCAA can reap the benefit. I can also understand them wanting to minimize the number of Griz fans, that is a benefit of being seeded. Seriously, people just need to quit getting all whiny about every dang thing.
 
Grizbeer said:
LongTimeCatFan said:
CDAGRIZ said:
LongTimeCatFan said:

LongTime, you rooting for the good guys in this one?

Are you kidding? Contrary to some opinions, I'm not an asshole. Go Griz! I hope you mop the floor with those used tampons.
LT is looking forward to the epic Friday night game in missoula against UNI. Hoping it is loud and cold.

LOUD and cold :thumbup:
 
jodcon said:
LongTimeCatFan said:
grizfan1234 said:
marceagfan5 said:
1.) pretty sure the NCAA takes a chunk of the profit from sold tickets in the playoff games so if you pay to bring in extra seating, you pay for more security, you pay to bring in portable bathrooms etc... The extra tickets sold may not offset those costs because of the NCAA take in playoff games...schools don't profit off the playoff games like they do regular season games...

2.) eastern has shotty playoff attendance, it's always this way regardless of how good we are. No reason to bring more Griz fans into the stadium because that's what you do by bringing in extra seating, it's not for ewu.


Sure.... 3,000 * $45 = $135,000 - ncaa chunk of profit. I'm sure the cost of those extra 3,000 extra seats would exceed $135,000.. Good logic.

They probably don't teach business at EWOO.

Ha beat me to it!

Haha, ya if it were that easy.

I may be wrong but Pretty sure the NCAA takes 75% of the gate, so ya, not a lot of money to be made by bringing in extra seating...
 
I actually wouldn't have had a problem with anything he said EXCEPT "Didn't anticipate a rematch with Montana even after the brackets were released." Come ON, even the most hardned Griz haters in Bozeman, and around the FCS KNEW the Griz were going to blow San Diego out! That was a bush league excuse. Leave that part and I would have been fine with the article, and I'm one of the ones who got screwed out of tickets. An Eastern fan posted them on Sunday on Stubhub for $80 a pop and we reserved them, but then, when he actually got them on Tuesday, jacked em up to $200 a pop, and my buddy and I politely declined.

At the end of the day, it's Eastern's choice to do what they want with this game. I can understand them being sick of Griz fans filling their stadium and being 10x louder than their own fans. In 2012, Griz Nation dominated that stadium. I don't care what EWU fans say about that night, it was easily 60/40 in favor of Griz Nation. I was there. So I understand what they are trying to accomplish.

HOWEVER, and I know it will NEVER happen, but I wish for next year, Kent would stick it back to em'. EWU has been given 2,000 tickets to sell for games in Wash-Griz for the last five meetings in Missoula. I'm thinking 800 sounds about right next year.
 
CDAGRIZ said:
LongTimeCatFan said:
CDAGRIZ said:
LongTimeCatFan said:

LongTime, you rooting for the good guys in this one?

Are you kidding? Contrary to some opinions, I'm not an asshole. Go Griz! I hope you mop the floor with those used tampons.

I thought so. :thumb:

Here's where I'm at. Delaney is all class. Has ties to MSU and is retiring at the end of the season. You guys kicked our ass. So what, we have chitty coaching. If UM wins the natty,(not likely) it'll force MSU's hand for an upgrade to the program. Maybe even a change in coach sooner rather than later. So go win it for your old man so we can rid ourselves of our old man.
 
marceagfan5 said:
jodcon said:
LongTimeCatFan said:
grizfan1234 said:
Sure.... 3,000 * $45 = $135,000 - ncaa chunk of profit. I'm sure the cost of those extra 3,000 extra seats would exceed $135,000.. Good logic.

They probably don't teach business at EWOO.

Ha beat me to it!

Haha, ya if it were that easy.

I may be wrong but Pretty sure the NCAA takes 75% of the gate, so ya, not a lot of money to be made by bringing in extra seating...

Yep, you're wrong
 
grizindabox said:
CDAGRIZ said:
grizindabox said:
I actually have no problems with the decision.

Less surprising than the decision itself. :roll:

It is a NCAA sponsored event, so I understand if EWU does not want to foot the bill so the NCAA can reap the benefit. I can also understand them wanting to minimize the number of Griz fans, that is a benefit of being seeded. Seriously, people just need to quit getting all whiny about every dang thing.

The split between the ncaa and the home team is done after expenses, so EWU would not foot the bill for any of the cost of providing more seats or security. EWU would just have to cover their prior minimum bid, which is quite low for seeded team and thus easily achievable. EWU would end up making a decent amount of extra money with the extra seating. The AD just didn't want to accommodate more UM fans. EWU's choice, but bush league, in my view.
 
PlayerRep said:
grizindabox said:
I actually have no problems with the decision.

Your view doesn't surprise me. You are out of step or off-base in virtually every thing you post. No reason to break your streak.

So true! :clap:
 
PlayerRep said:
grizindabox said:
CDAGRIZ said:
grizindabox said:
I actually have no problems with the decision.

Less surprising than the decision itself. :roll:

It is a NCAA sponsored event, so I understand if EWU does not want to foot the bill so the NCAA can reap the benefit. I can also understand them wanting to minimize the number of Griz fans, that is a benefit of being seeded. Seriously, people just need to quit getting all whiny about every dang thing.

The split between the ncaa and the home team is done after expenses, so EWU would not foot the bill for any of the cost of providing more seats or security. EWU would just have to cover their prior minimum bid, which is quite low for seeded team and thus easily achievable. EWU would end up making a decent amount of extra money with the extra seating. The AD just didn't want to accommodate more UM fans. EWU's choice, but bush league, in my view.

This may be the first time I agree with you. Your post was factually accurate by the way.
 
PlayerRep said:
grizindabox said:
CDAGRIZ said:
grizindabox said:
I actually have no problems with the decision.

Less surprising than the decision itself. :roll:

It is a NCAA sponsored event, so I understand if EWU does not want to foot the bill so the NCAA can reap the benefit. I can also understand them wanting to minimize the number of Griz fans, that is a benefit of being seeded. Seriously, people just need to quit getting all whiny about every dang thing.

The split between the ncaa and the home team is done after expenses, so EWU would not foot the bill for any of the cost of providing more seats or security. EWU would just have to cover their prior minimum bid, which is quite low for seeded team and thus easily achievable. EWU would end up making a decent amount of extra money with the extra seating. The AD just didn't want to accommodate more UM fans. EWU's choice, but bush league, in my view.

PR doesn't the ncaa take, after expenses either the minimum bid or a percentage of the revenue, whichever is higher?
 
PlayerRep said:
grizindabox said:
CDAGRIZ said:
grizindabox said:
I actually have no problems with the decision.

Less surprising than the decision itself. :roll:

It is a NCAA sponsored event, so I understand if EWU does not want to foot the bill so the NCAA can reap the benefit. I can also understand them wanting to minimize the number of Griz fans, that is a benefit of being seeded. Seriously, people just need to quit getting all whiny about every dang thing.

The split between the ncaa and the home team is done after expenses, so EWU would not foot the bill for any of the cost of providing more seats or security. EWU would just have to cover their prior minimum bid, which is quite low for seeded team and thus easily achievable. EWU would end up making a decent amount of extra money with the extra seating. The AD just didn't want to accommodate more UM fans. EWU's choice, but bush league, in my view.

Exactly. The bush league thing is he didn't just say 'we wanted minimize Griz fans at the game'.
 
Officials didn’t count on a rematch with Montana, he said, even after the bracket came out and the Grizzlies drew underdog San Diego.

Seriously? I'd say the "officials" are "officially" dipshits.
 
Some rough numbers:

Bleacher rental, according to this website (http://activities.costhelper.com/bleacher.html) costs about 2 to 9 dollars per seat. Let's say it's $10. 3,000 x 10 = 30,000.

The portable toilet status quo at EWU is notoriously maybe 1 closet per 1,000 fans. According to this website (http://www.costowl.com/rental/rental-portable-toilets.html), one costs 75 to 150 dollars to rent. Let's say it's $200. 3 x 200 = 600.

3,000 x 45 = 135,000. 135,000 - 30,000 - 600 = 104,400. Even if the NCAA takes a whopping 75% of this additional profit (which I somehow doubt), that leaves EWU with an extra $26,000. You can buy a lot of eye black and tats with $26,000.

Let's say that each of the 3,000 spends an average of $5 on concessions. That's $15,000 in additional revenue for EWU.

Let's say that each of the 3,000 spends an average of $15 on a food before or after the game. That's $45,000 in revenue for local businesses.


It boils down to whether you want a bigger crowd or not. Wanting a smaller crowd because you are afraid that the additional fans will be Griz fans is not looking at the big picture, at all.
 
mcg said:
PlayerRep said:
grizindabox said:
CDAGRIZ said:
Less surprising than the decision itself. :roll:

It is a NCAA sponsored event, so I understand if EWU does not want to foot the bill so the NCAA can reap the benefit. I can also understand them wanting to minimize the number of Griz fans, that is a benefit of being seeded. Seriously, people just need to quit getting all whiny about every dang thing.

The split between the ncaa and the home team is done after expenses, so EWU would not foot the bill for any of the cost of providing more seats or security. EWU would just have to cover their prior minimum bid, which is quite low for seeded team and thus easily achievable. EWU would end up making a decent amount of extra money with the extra seating. The AD just didn't want to accommodate more UM fans. EWU's choice, but bush league, in my view.

Exactly. The bush league thing is he didn't just say 'we wanted minimize Griz fans at the game'.

If he would actually come out and say that I would appreciate him having the balls to say it, rather than "oh we didn't know about how the playoffs would go even though Montana was 278 point favorites and stuff"...yeah that fooled a lot of people.
 
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The NCAA takes the majority of playoff game revenue, although I do agree with most on here that the ewu seating decision was based on keeping Griz fans out and not about finances
 
What about the possibility of a premium ticket with a premium view. Maybe instead of bleachers? That track could be valuable real estate. Just a thought.
 
This will come back to haunt EWU. I mean, the extra revenue the EWU program could have made from this game is about the only conciliatory thing they were going to walk away with on Saturday....
 
marceagfan5 said:
http://www.kulr8.com/story/27504694/playoffs-mean-more-money-for-missoula-not-as-much-for-um


The NCAA takes the majority of playoff game revenue, although I do agree with most on here that the ewu seating decision was based on keeping Griz fans out and not about finances

"Financially, it's not a huge impact for the school as far as monetarily, but recognition-wise, stature-wise it does great things for us," said Maes.

Gets it.


Chaves noted that Eastern went beyond its NCAA-mandated obligation for tickets to the opposing team, which is 500.

Doesn't get it.
 
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