Does The Stitt Offense Handicap UM Football? b

[grizfan406]

There's a lot of reasons why things don't go right but ultimately it's me," said Stitt, the Grizzlies' second-year head coach. "It's me. I've got to get it done."

Stitt discussed his plans for a rebound season in 2017. Between now and Sept. 2, 2017, when the Griz kick off against Valparaiso at home, Stitt said he and his staff will reassess everything about the program.

From the coaching staff and how they coach, to the schemes they run and their personnel.

"I've done a lot of thinking and soul searching and we're going to look at every little aspect of what we do," Stitt said. "Me as a manager managing them and every aspect of the program.

"... Internally it eats at me and eats at me and eats at me. I cannot sleep at night and I cannot enjoy anything unless our players are successful. That's what drives me, is helping these guys be successful. Winning is something you expect. Losing is something that's just so much harder and we can't do it anymore. We can't fail and we've got to work harder because you're terrified to not succeed."

http://missoulian.com/sports/college/montana/stitt-takes-blame-for-disappointing-griz-football-season/article_5d8a80ec-4656-5b31-8a68-5fa2bd7831de.html

One of the things that has been brought up and definitely needs to be reassessed is Stitt being the "HEAD COACH" and not just the OC. When I went to the Norther Colorado game, what I saw was discouraging and disheartening. Stitt toward the end of the game was all by himself calling plays. Usually an OC has players near him to rotate or coach but there was no one around him. It was my impression that he had lost the locker room late in the season. A head coach has to coach everyone on the team, he has to engage with all of them and get the most out of them, inspire them, pump them up. I saw none of this. I saw coach on an island in no mans land.

 

[ari gold]

Late to the party here so I have a fairly objective view. Football aside, it never ceases to amaze me how many children we have on this board. This thread looks like something high school freshman would write.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

This thread looks like something high school freshman would write.

You give them too much credit.

 

[EverettGriz]

I will never understand why the same posters on this board who rip on Stitt for a poor season also trumpet Pflugrad as the greatest coach since Vince Lombardi, giving him a full pass on a completely shitty season with far, far better inherited talent.

Pflu's first season is completely explainable by losing JJ at the start of pre-season practice, and not having a single qb on the roster who had completed a pass in college. Had JJ been the qb, UM would have had 5 more wins. Had it been known earlier that JJ would not be available for the season, Montana would not have transferred.

With JJ back, UM went to the semis the next year, and almost rallied to comeback in the semifinal game.

There is no excuse for the collapse at the end of the 2016 season. And, it was Sttt's second season, not his first, at UM.

People from Seattle who don't have a clue about football should think twice before saying stupid things about football.

You sound like Jane Curtain on SNL's Weekend Update, so with that in mind----

PlayerRep, you ignorant slut, Alzheimer's has obviously set in! Pflu's first season was 2010. Selle was the starting QB, but he was injured and Justin Roper took over (JJ played vs EW and maybe a couple other games). As has always been the case you don't really know much about Jordan Johnson.

Actually, I had figured out my mistake fairly quickly, but decided to let it go for awhile to see how many other posters, including Everett, were just as dumb as I was. In any event, major qb's problems for both Pflu and Delaney, and Pflu's first season was much better than last years (and the Griz were ranked 20th at the end of the season).

You're so full of shit you stink.

eGrizzers cannot agree on virtually anything. But each and everyone of us concur that you and 75,000 are dumbassed tools.

As for Pflu's record last year? I would guess he would have won one more game and had 37 more players arrested.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

A great qb in this offense should be predictable. He should check into the ideal play to beat the called defense every time.

Not when the QB doesn't seem to realize the DC is bluffing him into the same check down call. And in this offense, more than one play is available to attack what the defense is giving. My recollection is each QB in season 1 had a good first game, where the DC hadn't seen the QB's reaction to defensive alignments. Game 2 the next DC had game film, no surprises, and the QB's struggled. Stitt's offense emphasizes many options, not a single "ideal" option. I seemed to notice what looked like Stitt's frequent frustration with BG's check downs after failed 3rd and 4th down conversion attempts.

 

[Ursus1]

A great qb in this offense should be predictable. He should check into the ideal play to beat the called defense every time.

Not when the QB doesn't seem to realize the DC is bluffing him into the same check down call. And in this offense, more than one play is available to attack what the defense is giving. My recollection is each QB in season 1 had a good first game, where the DC hadn't seen the QB's reaction to defensive alignments. Game 2 the next DC had game film, no surprises, and the QB's struggled. Stitt's offense emphasizes many options, not a single "ideal" option. I seemed to notice what looked like Stitt's frequent frustration with BG's check downs after failed 3rd and 4th down conversion attempts.

Thank God someone else on here noticed the bluffing and how it really castrated the offense. The lack of offensive formations really makes it easy on defense....I realize that is needed when you are super fast play running, but that never seemed to click (rarely had teams on heels, especially after more film was out there ). Perhaps coaching and talent on defenses are too good for what worked against D2 opponents with his exact system.

 

[Ursa Major]

I will never understand why the same posters on this board who rip on Stitt for a poor season also trumpet Pflugrad as the greatest coach since Vince Lombardi, giving him a full pass on a completely shitty season with far, far better inherited talent.

Pflu's first season is completely explainable by losing JJ at the start of pre-season practice, and not having a single qb on the roster who had completed a pass in college. Had JJ been the qb, UM would have had 5 more wins. Had it been known earlier that JJ would not be available for the season, Montana would not have transferred.

With JJ back, UM went to the semis the next year, and almost rallied to comeback in the semifinal game.

There is no excuse for the collapse at the end of the 2016 season. And, it was Sttt's second season, not his first, at UM.

People from Seattle who don't have a clue about football should think twice before saying stupid things about football.

Except it wasn't pflu's first season where he lost JJ. His first season he burned JJ's redshirt by having him play about 25 plays, pissing off a bunch of Griz fans in the process. 2011 he had JJ and went to the semis. 2012 spring was when he lost JJ during spring practice and lost his job shortly thereafter.


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It begs the question, does it matter if you played the game if you don't remember playing the game?

 

[mtgrizfankb]

A great qb in this offense should be predictable. He should check into the ideal play to beat the called defense every time.

Not when the QB doesn't seem to realize the DC is bluffing him into the same check down call. And in this offense, more than one play is available to attack what the defense is giving. My recollection is each QB in season 1 had a good first game, where the DC hadn't seen the QB's reaction to defensive alignments. Game 2 the next DC had game film, no surprises, and the QB's struggled. Stitt's offense emphasizes many options, not a single "ideal" option. I seemed to notice what looked like Stitt's frequent frustration with BG's check downs after failed 3rd and 4th down conversion attempts.

This is true, I think BG was good at processing the data of what was on the field. However I also think he would always take the 3 yard buffer vs attacking going to the 1 on 1 coverage. This frustrated Stitt. The O is designed to give the QB options and BG always picked to be conservative. If you go back and watch games where he was aggressive, teams were often caught playing too far up and jumping routes. We scored a lot on those types of plays. BG however fell into that lull of not wanting to T.O the ball. Especially as we had a 3 and out or two. The fear of making a big mistake lead to non exportation on better options from the QB. Also hurts the run game, because the whole field shrank 3-5 yards, that means LBs are creating an earlier second level that is very hard to block and fight through as a RB. If you were near the sideline at all, you could hear stitt multiple times over the last two years talk to BG about how the easy option was not always the best option. I think stitt also had a hard time adjusting his O to BG who was making these reads. He altered plays to give BG multiple routes that were within 5-7 yards. You can watch games early in the season 2 years ago and then last year and it's the same play with same blocking with routes that were just simplistic instead of stretching the field. I had heard WRs were frustrated because of this at times and also were frustrated that when then were 1-1 they were not getting rewarded with a chance to beat the DB. BG also used JLM as a crutch and actually hurt BG delevloping streching the D. Anyways that's my 2 cents I'm sure y'all will tear it apart but that's the little info I know about the BG and Stitt conflict.

 

[UMGriz75]

Pflu's second season was when he relied on JJ, now a sophomore, and ended with a 7-1 conference record, a winning percentage of 0.875, and went three deep into the playoffs.

That's the guy Engstrom felt he had to fire to prove some odd point that no one ever clearly understood since, among other things, Pflu was one of the good guys. It was one of those autonomic genuflections that politicians like Engstrom were trained to do as academic administrators: first of all, genuflect to your base. Rouse the highly educated rabble.

Just as Richard Brodhead at Duke University was willing to sacrifice the career and reputation of coach Mike Pressler for something that actually never happened, meanwhile taking his own large pay increases and retirement benefit perks, as did the 80 faculty members who publicly, gleefully and falsely attacked Pressler in paid advertisements contaminating the opinions of an entire academic community. Never underestimate the power of mob hatred even when the entire mob has PhDs. The smug self-righteousness combined with the PhD makes the injustice even more intolerable. It was a shameful episode in which, in the name of a foul political correctness, the bad guys won and the good guys were tortured and broken. There is the future and purpose of political correctness in the willing and eager hands of sell-outs like Royce Engstrom. The wrong will profit, and the mob will rule.

At UM the next year, with the surprise last-minute firing of Pflu and the late arrival of Mick Delaney (August 1, 2012), and JJ being yanked off the team because of "charges" that the Missoula Police had twice refused to file, the conference record plummeted to 3-5, but upon JJ's return after a dramatic courtroom vindication in March the following year, the Griz rebounded to conference records of 6-2, 0.750, in both of Mick Delaney's last two years, missing a second playoff narrowly in 2013, and getting to the second game in 2014, for Mick's retirement.

 

[Grizzoola]

There's a lot of reasons why things don't go right but ultimately it's me," said Stitt, the Grizzlies' second-year head coach. "It's me. I've got to get it done."

Stitt discussed his plans for a rebound season in 2017. Between now and Sept. 2, 2017, when the Griz kick off against Valparaiso at home, Stitt said he and his staff will reassess everything about the program. From the coaching staff and how they coach, to the schemes they run and their personnel.
"I've done a lot of thinking and soul searching and we're going to look at every little aspect of what we do," Stitt said. "Me as a manager managing them and every aspect of the program.

"... Internally it eats at me and eats at me and eats at me. I cannot sleep at night and I cannot enjoy anything unless our players are successful. That's what drives me, is helping these guys be successful. Winning is something you expect. Losing is something that's just so much harder and we can't do it anymore. We can't fail and we've got to work harder because you're terrified to not succeed."

http://missoulian.com/sports/college/montana/stitt-takes-blame-for-disappointing-griz-football-season/article_5d8a80ec-4656-5b31-8a68-5fa2bd7831de.html

One of the things that has been brought up and definitely needs to be reassessed is Stitt being the "HEAD COACH" and not just the OC. When I went to the Norther Colorado game, what I saw was discouraging and disheartening. Stitt toward the end of the game was all by himself calling plays. Usually an OC has players near him to rotate or coach but there was no one around him. It was my impression that he had lost the locker room late in the season. A head coach has to coach everyone on the team, he has to engage with all of them and get the most out of them, inspire them, pump them up. I saw none of this. I saw coach on an island in no mans land.

My fear, as well. I hope he can return the Griz to the elan they had under previous coaches.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

A great qb in this offense should be predictable. He should check into the ideal play to beat the called defense every time.

Not when the QB doesn't seem to realize the DC is bluffing him into the same check down call. And in this offense, more than one play is available to attack what the defense is giving. My recollection is each QB in season 1 had a good first game, where the DC hadn't seen the QB's reaction to defensive alignments. Game 2 the next DC had game film, no surprises, and the QB's struggled. Stitt's offense emphasizes many options, not a single "ideal" option. I seemed to notice what looked like Stitt's frequent frustration with BG's check downs after failed 3rd and 4th down conversion attempts.

Nailed it.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

There's a lot of reasons why things don't go right but ultimately it's me," said Stitt, the Grizzlies' second-year head coach. "It's me. I've got to get it done."

Stitt discussed his plans for a rebound season in 2017. Between now and Sept. 2, 2017, when the Griz kick off against Valparaiso at home, Stitt said he and his staff will reassess everything about the program. From the coaching staff and how they coach, to the schemes they run and their personnel.
"I've done a lot of thinking and soul searching and we're going to look at every little aspect of what we do," Stitt said. "Me as a manager managing them and every aspect of the program.

"... Internally it eats at me and eats at me and eats at me. I cannot sleep at night and I cannot enjoy anything unless our players are successful. That's what drives me, is helping these guys be successful. Winning is something you expect. Losing is something that's just so much harder and we can't do it anymore. We can't fail and we've got to work harder because you're terrified to not succeed."

http://missoulian.com/sports/college/montana/stitt-takes-blame-for-disappointing-griz-football-season/article_5d8a80ec-4656-5b31-8a68-5fa2bd7831de.html

One of the things that has been brought up and definitely needs to be reassessed is Stitt being the "HEAD COACH" and not just the OC. When I went to the Norther Colorado game, what I saw was discouraging and disheartening. Stitt toward the end of the game was all by himself calling plays. Usually an OC has players near him to rotate or coach but there was no one around him. It was my impression that he had lost the locker room late in the season. A head coach has to coach everyone on the team, he has to engage with all of them and get the most out of them, inspire them, pump them up. I saw none of this. I saw coach on an island in no mans land.

My fear, as well. I hope he can return the Griz to the elan they had under previous coaches.

He didn't lose the entire locker room...there was a select group that checked out, a group that was not recruited by Stitt.

 

[PlayerRep]

A great qb in this offense should be predictable. He should check into the ideal play to beat the called defense every time.

Not when the QB doesn't seem to realize the DC is bluffing him into the same check down call. And in this offense, more than one play is available to attack what the defense is giving. My recollection is each QB in season 1 had a good first game, where the DC hadn't seen the QB's reaction to defensive alignments. Game 2 the next DC had game film, no surprises, and the QB's struggled. Stitt's offense emphasizes many options, not a single "ideal" option. I seemed to notice what looked like Stitt's frequent frustration with BG's check downs after failed 3rd and 4th down conversion attempts.

This is true, I think BG was good at processing the data of what was on the field. However I also think he would always take the 3 yard buffer vs attacking going to the 1 on 1 coverage. This frustrated Stitt. The O is designed to give the QB options and BG always picked to be conservative. If you go back and watch games where he was aggressive, teams were often caught playing too far up and jumping routes. We scored a lot on those types of plays. BG however fell into that lull of not wanting to T.O the ball. Especially as we had a 3 and out or two. The fear of making a big mistake lead to non exportation on better options from the QB. Also hurts the run game, because the whole field shrank 3-5 yards, that means LBs are creating an earlier second level that is very hard to block and fight through as a RB. If you were near the sideline at all, you could hear stitt multiple times over the last two years talk to BG about how the easy option was not always the best option. I think stitt also had a hard time adjusting his O to BG who was making these reads. He altered plays to give BG multiple routes that were within 5-7 yards. You can watch games early in the season 2 years ago and then last year and it's the same play with same blocking with routes that were just simplistic instead of stretching the field. I had heard WRs were frustrated because of this at times and also were frustrated that when then were 1-1 they were not getting rewarded with a chance to beat the DB. BG also used JLM as a crutch and actually hurt BG delevloping streching the D. Anyways that's my 2 cents I'm sure y'all will tear it apart but that's the little info I know about the BG and Stitt conflict.

Good points but I want a qb who is predictable in making all of the right reads and decisions. That was the intended meaning of my prior post. Not disagreeing with your posts. Slightly different topics.

 

[PlayerRep]

I will never understand why the same posters on this board who rip on Stitt for a poor season also trumpet Pflugrad as the greatest coach since Vince Lombardi, giving him a full pass on a completely shitty season with far, far better inherited talent.

Pflu's first season is completely explainable by losing JJ at the start of pre-season practice, and not having a single qb on the roster who had completed a pass in college. Had JJ been the qb, UM would have had 5 more wins. Had it been known earlier that JJ would not be available for the season, Montana would not have transferred.

With JJ back, UM went to the semis the next year, and almost rallied to comeback in the semifinal game.

There is no excuse for the collapse at the end of the 2016 season. And, it was Sttt's second season, not his first, at UM.

People from Seattle who don't have a clue about football should think twice before saying stupid things about football.

Except it wasn't pflu's first season where he lost JJ. His first season he burned JJ's redshirt by having him play about 25 plays, pissing off a bunch of Griz fans in the process. 2011 he had JJ and went to the semis. 2012 spring was when he lost JJ during spring practice and lost his job shortly thereafter.


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It begs the question, does it matter if you played the game if you don't remember playing the game?

Agreed, but note that Everett was too dumb to notice, unlike getgrizzy and AZ.

 

[IntuitiveGriz]

... A bigger question I have is how you get beat by a bad team that comes in and says "Hey, we can't pass the ball at all, so we're going to run it every time, just so you know" and you can't stop them anyway? I've thought about that for 7 months and still have no answer.

The answer is msu lined up and physically kicked UM's ass.

 

[PlayerRep]

Pflu's first season is completely explainable by losing JJ at the start of pre-season practice, and not having a single qb on the roster who had completed a pass in college. Had JJ been the qb, UM would have had 5 more wins. Had it been known earlier that JJ would not be available for the season, Montana would not have transferred.

With JJ back, UM went to the semis the next year, and almost rallied to comeback in the semifinal game.

There is no excuse for the collapse at the end of the 2016 season. And, it was Sttt's second season, not his first, at UM.

People from Seattle who don't have a clue about football should think twice before saying stupid things about football.

You sound like Jane Curtain on SNL's Weekend Update, so with that in mind----

PlayerRep, you ignorant slut, Alzheimer's has obviously set in! Pflu's first season was 2010. Selle was the starting QB, but he was injured and Justin Roper took over (JJ played vs EW and maybe a couple other games). As has always been the case you don't really know much about Jordan Johnson.

Actually, I had figured out my mistake fairly quickly, but decided to let it go for awhile to see how many other posters, including Everett, were just as dumb as I was. In any event, major qb's problems for both Pflu and Delaney, and Pflu's first season was much better than last years (and the Griz were ranked 20th at the end of the season).

You're so full of shit you stink.

eGrizzers cannot agree on virtually anything. But each and everyone of us concur that you and 75,000 are dumbassed tools.

As for Pflu's record last year? I would guess he would have won one more game and had 37 more players arrested.

And one more win would have gotten UM into the playoffs.

Help me with which Pflu players were arrested during his tenure. Donaldson, who was not a Pflu recruit. JJ wasn't actually arrested, but was charged and acquitted. None of the group blow job guys were ever arrested or charged, and all who got lawyers were allowed to continue with school and graduate. Wilson was not arrested. Kemp/Tru. Pled nole to disorderly conduct android a tiny fine. Bad press, but the police were more at fault and just wasn't a big deal criminally. Okay, that's 3 arrested. What else of note happened during Pflu's tenure? Some of the years of different coaches are starting to run together for me.

 

[bgbigdog]

I will never understand why the same posters on this board who rip on Stitt for a poor season also trumpet Pflugrad as the greatest coach since Vince Lombardi, giving him a full pass on a completely shitty season with far, far better inherited talent.

Pflu's first season is completely explainable by losing JJ at the start of pre-season practice, and not having a single qb on the roster who had completed a pass in college. Had JJ been the qb, UM would have had 5 more wins. Had it been known earlier that JJ would not be available for the season, Montana would not have transferred.

With JJ back, UM went to the semis the next year, and almost rallied to comeback in the semifinal game.

There is no excuse for the collapse at the end of the 2016 season. And, it was Sttt's second season, not his first, at UM.

People from Seattle who don't have a clue about football should think twice before saying stupid things about football.

Except it wasn't pflu's first season where he lost JJ. His first season he burned JJ's redshirt by having him play about 25 plays, pissing off a bunch of Griz fans in the process. 2011 he had JJ and went to the semis. 2012 spring was when he lost JJ during spring practice and lost his job shortly thereafter.


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It begs the question, does it matter if you played the game if you don't remember playing the game?

:clap:

 

[zirge]

A great qb in this offense should be predictable. He should check into the ideal play to beat the called defense every time.

Not when the QB doesn't seem to realize the DC is bluffing him into the same check down call. And in this offense, more than one play is available to attack what the defense is giving. My recollection is each QB in season 1 had a good first game, where the DC hadn't seen the QB's reaction to defensive alignments. Game 2 the next DC had game film, no surprises, and the QB's struggled. Stitt's offense emphasizes many options, not a single "ideal" option. I seemed to notice what looked like Stitt's frequent frustration with BG's check downs after failed 3rd and 4th down conversion attempts.

This is true, I think BG was good at processing the data of what was on the field. However I also think he would always take the 3 yard buffer vs attacking going to the 1 on 1 coverage. This frustrated Stitt. The O is designed to give the QB options and BG always picked to be conservative. If you go back and watch games where he was aggressive, teams were often caught playing too far up and jumping routes. We scored a lot on those types of plays. BG however fell into that lull of not wanting to T.O the ball. Especially as we had a 3 and out or two. The fear of making a big mistake lead to non exportation on better options from the QB. Also hurts the run game, because the whole field shrank 3-5 yards, that means LBs are creating an earlier second level that is very hard to block and fight through as a RB. If you were near the sideline at all, you could hear stitt multiple times over the last two years talk to BG about how the easy option was not always the best option. I think stitt also had a hard time adjusting his O to BG who was making these reads. He altered plays to give BG multiple routes that were within 5-7 yards. You can watch games early in the season 2 years ago and then last year and it's the same play with same blocking with routes that were just simplistic instead of stretching the field. I had heard WRs were frustrated because of this at times and also were frustrated that when then were 1-1 they were not getting rewarded with a chance to beat the DB. BG also used JLM as a crutch and actually hurt BG delevloping streching the D. Anyways that's my 2 cents I'm sure y'all will tear it apart but that's the little info I know about the BG and Stitt conflict.

Good points but I want a qb who is predictable in making all of the right reads and decisions. That was the intended meaning of my prior post. Not disagreeing with your posts. Slightly different topics.

wow, 3 guys that may have played the game at this level, ok 4 if you count 75. making astute observations on the Gus/Stitts, WTF was going on dilemma, that we all have been hacking on for
2 years now. thanks fellas, good stuff to digest.

 

[UMGriz75]

The answer is msu lined up and physically kicked UM's ass.

Was that with the 180 lb Chris Murray who couldn't throw particularly well and had to pretty much run everything, bullddozing over all Griz with his massive frame?

Just like MSU "lined up" and "physically kicked" Sac State's, Weber's, North Dakota's, Weber's, Eastern Washington's and Southern Utah's "asses?"

In Missoula?

The Griz were simply a team that didn't want to play that day, and Coach Stitt could not inspire them to do so.

To his credit, he has the good sense (now) to stop making excuses.

No one else was fooled, or as willing to be fooled.

Even now it's hard to fathom the Grizzly offense coming out of the locker room after halftime — staring at a 14-7 deficit — and looking so flat. The old Grizzlies would have been gnawing through their chinstraps to get on the field and score. These Grizzlies, who had trouble all season staying engaged in road games, came out passive and went 3-and-out.

http://billingsgazette.com/sports/college/big-sky-conference/montana-state-university/football/loss-to-montana-state-a-wake-up-call-for-montana/article_0212d408-38eb-597d-a1f4-c7c4ae028bcb.html

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Not when the QB doesn't seem to realize the DC is bluffing him into the same check down call. And in this offense, more than one play is available to attack what the defense is giving. My recollection is each QB in season 1 had a good first game, where the DC hadn't seen the QB's reaction to defensive alignments. Game 2 the next DC had game film, no surprises, and the QB's struggled. Stitt's offense emphasizes many options, not a single "ideal" option. I seemed to notice what looked like Stitt's frequent frustration with BG's check downs after failed 3rd and 4th down conversion attempts.

This is true, I think BG was good at processing the data of what was on the field. However I also think he would always take the 3 yard buffer vs attacking going to the 1 on 1 coverage. This frustrated Stitt. The O is designed to give the QB options and BG always picked to be conservative. If you go back and watch games where he was aggressive, teams were often caught playing too far up and jumping routes. We scored a lot on those types of plays. BG however fell into that lull of not wanting to T.O the ball. Especially as we had a 3 and out or two. The fear of making a big mistake lead to non exportation on better options from the QB. Also hurts the run game, because the whole field shrank 3-5 yards, that means LBs are creating an earlier second level that is very hard to block and fight through as a RB. If you were near the sideline at all, you could hear stitt multiple times over the last two years talk to BG about how the easy option was not always the best option. I think stitt also had a hard time adjusting his O to BG who was making these reads. He altered plays to give BG multiple routes that were within 5-7 yards. You can watch games early in the season 2 years ago and then last year and it's the same play with same blocking with routes that were just simplistic instead of stretching the field. I had heard WRs were frustrated because of this at times and also were frustrated that when then were 1-1 they were not getting rewarded with a chance to beat the DB. BG also used JLM as a crutch and actually hurt BG delevloping streching the D. Anyways that's my 2 cents I'm sure y'all will tear it apart but that's the little info I know about the BG and Stitt conflict.

Good points but I want a qb who is predictable in making all of the right reads and decisions. That was the intended meaning of my prior post. Not disagreeing with your posts. Slightly different topics.

wow, 3 guys that may have played the game at this level, ok 4 if you count 75. making astute observations on the Gus/Stitts, WTF was going on dilemma, that we all have been hacking on for
2 years now. thanks fellas, good stuff to digest.

I think you're mistaken....75 invented the Olympics, I dont believe he has ever claimed to have played the game yet?