Does The Stitt Offense Handicap UM Football? b

[Mavman]

Question? How much of an impact did playing three different QB's in season one and two different QB's in season two( due to injuries) have on the success and continuity of Stitts offense?
NO THIS IS NOT AN EXCUSE
I was just wondering when the last time we used 5 different QBs in two seasons because of injury?
It would be nice to have a QB stay fairly healthy for an entire season and see what kind of success he would have.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Question? How much of an impact did playing three different QB's in season one and two different QB's in season two( due to injuries) have on the success and continuity of Stitts offense?
NO THIS IS NOT AN EXCUSE
I was just wondering when the last time we used 5 different QBs in two seasons because of injury?
It would be nice to have a QB stay fairly healthy for an entire season and see what kind of success he would have.

Well technically it wasn't five different QB's, it was only 3 different QB's.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

No way, he will go down in flames before he abandons this philosophy, even if it costs him the castle.

Yep, and can you blame him? The guy even said outright...hes been waiting to test his system at the next level...it needs to work for him. Hes doing it at the most visible program in the FCS...first year it kinda worked...second year it kinda didnt. This year its either going to work or not.

He sure as shit isnt going to abandon it now because half of egriz thinks they know more about football than him.

Not only that, but he sure as shit isn't going to abandon something that's gotten him this far, especially in a year he's "on the hot seat" and try and implement a completely different scheme at the 11th hour...like or not, we're gonna be seeing a lot of what we saw (play wise) last year...

Yikes!......plus if it takes 4-5 years for the qb to learn and run the system with any efficientcy, according to one, you think the summer was a long wait and see, buckle up.

I know many on here will not agree...but I think the system is not the problem...I believe the QB running the system was the problem.

We all see how it can work when the QB is doing his job....we beat the 5 time champs when it happens.

 

[Mavman]

What was the major change in BG from the NDSU game to the second half of the season last year?
I noticed in the NDSU game he made some huge throws down field and even kept the ball a few times on the read-option. His last four or five games it seemed he was quick to dump the ball off on the screen or short passes never anything over the middle much. Confidence, lingering injury, receivers, playcalling?
just seemed like a different guy.

 

[UMGriz75]

I was just wondering when the last time we used 5 different QBs in two seasons because of injury?
It would be nice to have a QB stay fairly healthy for an entire season and see what kind of success he would have.

Well, let's see, in 2015, three UM QBs playing four nearly equal rotations, the Conference record was 6-2 playing all Delaney guys, using Delaney's well-regarded Defensive Coordinator, with an experienced D1 staff, getting to second round in playoffs.

The interesting thing about that second playoff game; no matter how bad it gets, Stitt will not change his game plan. His post-game interview was a marvel of self-delusion. Despite that, Stitt took the credit: "this is how we are going to run things now."

In 2016, Stitt ditches his most experienced senior staff guy, goes to an all-D2 senior staff, with this preferred, much-more experienced Montana QB playing most of the games, the Griz Conference record fell to 3-5, we lost to two conference bottom dwellers, and we lost to the Cats (conf record, 2-6) in Missoula before 25,000 depressed and incredulous spectators, the Cats using a freshman QB who doesn't throw the ball well, against UM's nationally-ranked QB chewing up UM's vaunted Defense guided by our D2 Masterminds.

Implementing "Stitt's System" the Griz had a nervous breakdown and humiliated the Griz, losing four of the last five conference games, including to conference bottom-dwellers in front of the season's largest crowd, at home.

During the final half of the season, Stitt evolved from an angry but still cocky coach feeling undercut by a few players, to a coach who blamed his whole team, to a coach who was finally forced to take the full blame himself after everyone saw it collapse in Missoula to the struggling and suffering Cats -- who just happened to have an experienced D1 coach in charge.

Wonder about that?

 

[Mavman]

I was just wondering when the last time we used 5 different QBs in two seasons because of injury?
It would be nice to have a QB stay fairly healthy for an entire season and see what kind of success he would have.

Well, let's see, in 2015, three UM QBs playing four nearly equal rotations, the Conference record was 6-2 playing all Delaney guys, using Delaney's well-regarded Defensive Coordinator, with an experienced D1 staff, getting to second round in playoffs.

The interesting thing about that second playoff game; no matter how bad it gets, Stitt will not change his game plan. His post-game interview was a marvel of self-delusion. Despite that, Stitt took the credit: "this is how we are going to run things now."

In 2016, Stitt ditches his most experienced senior staff guy, goes to an all-D2 senior staff, with this preferred, much-more experienced Montana QB playing most of the games, the Griz Conference record fell to 3-5, we lost to two conference bottom dwellers, and we lost to the Cats (conf record, 2-6) in Missoula before 25,000 depressed and incredulous spectators, the Cats using a freshman QB who doesn't throw the ball well, against UM's nationally-ranked QB chewing up UM's vaunted Defense guided by our D2 Masterminds.

Implementing "Stitt's System" the Griz had a nervous breakdown and humiliated the Griz, losing four of the last five conference games, including to conference bottom-dwellers in front of the season's largest crowd, at home.

During the final half of the season, Stitt evolved from an angry but still cocky coach feeling undercut by a few players, to a coach who blamed his whole team, to a coach who was finally forced to take the full blame himself after everyone saw it collapse in Missoula to the struggling and suffering Cats -- who just happened to have an experienced D1 coach in charge.

Wonder about that?

I'm starting to sense that you might think that Stitt was a bad hire. I wonder

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Yep, and can you blame him? The guy even said outright...hes been waiting to test his system at the next level...it needs to work for him. Hes doing it at the most visible program in the FCS...first year it kinda worked...second year it kinda didnt. This year its either going to work or not.

He sure as shit isnt going to abandon it now because half of egriz thinks they know more about football than him.

Not only that, but he sure as shit isn't going to abandon something that's gotten him this far, especially in a year he's "on the hot seat" and try and implement a completely different scheme at the 11th hour...like or not, we're gonna be seeing a lot of what we saw (play wise) last year...

Yikes!......plus if it takes 4-5 years for the qb to learn and run the system with any efficientcy, according to one, you think the summer was a long wait and see, buckle up.

I know many on here will not agree...but I think the system is not the problem...I believe the QB running the system was the problem.

We all see how it can work when the QB is doing his job....we beat the 5 time champs when it happens.

Even though I think BG was an average QB at best and was certainly a reason why the offense struggled, it is unfair to put it all on him. Poor OL play, a huge drop off in receiver play, and Stitt's seemingly inability to evolve and adjust his offense all get there share of the blame. And I did not even touch on the struggles on the defensive side of the ball.

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

What was the major change in BG from the NDSU game to the second half of the season last year?
I noticed in the NDSU game he made some huge throws down field and even kept the ball a few times on the read-option. His last four or five games it seemed he was quick to dump the ball off on the screen or short passes never anything over the middle much. Confidence, lingering injury, receivers, playcalling?
just seemed like a different guy.

He got hit a few times after that...o-line play wasnt good...but BG certainly didnt have nerves of steel.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

What was the major change in BG from the NDSU game to the second half of the season last year?
I noticed in the NDSU game he made some huge throws down field and even kept the ball a few times on the read-option. His last four or five games it seemed he was quick to dump the ball off on the screen or short passes never anything over the middle much. Confidence, lingering injury, receivers, playcalling?
just seemed like a different guy.

He got hit a few times after that...o-line play wasnt good...but BG certainly didnt have nerves of steel.

You are correct. After his injury he looked like he was playing off his heels.

 

[Grizzoola]

... In 2016, Stitt ditches his most experienced senior staff guy, goes to an all-D2 senior staff .... During the final half of the season, Stitt evolved from an angry but still cocky coach feeling undercut by a few players, to a coach who blamed his whole team, to a coach who was finally forced to take the full blame himself after everyone saw it collapse in Missoula to the struggling and suffering Cats -- who just happened to have an experienced D1 coach in charge. Wonder about that?

Ah, I think I got it: You want a drop-down coach from the BCS, rather than a D2 move-up! A winning FCS HC might be acceptable you, but I think what you've been angling for is the return of Bobby Hauck. If I'm wrong, tell me why, and explain what sort of HC you want for the Griz, if not BH.

 

[UMGriz75]

Ah, I think I got it: You want a drop-down coach from the BCS, rather than a D2 move-up! A winning FCS HC might be acceptable you, but I think what you've been angling for is the return of Bobby Hauck. If I'm wrong, tell me why, and explain what sort of HC you want for the Griz, if not BH.

A head coach experienced and successful or potentially successful in the game you play. We play D1.

Get it?

 

[BadlandsGrizFan]

Ah, I think I got it: You want a drop-down coach from the BCS, rather than a D2 move-up! A winning FCS HC might be acceptable you, but I think what you've been angling for is the return of Bobby Hauck. If I'm wrong, tell me why, and explain what sort of HC you want for the Griz, if not BH.

A head coach experienced and successful or potentially successful in the game you play. We play D1.

Get it?

Stitt has the potential to be very successful at this level.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Just so I know going forward, a position coach from a D1 school is much better than a head coach from a D2 school?

 

[Spanky]

Maybe, after several more years of on the job training.

 

[Spanky]

Helena: that would depend on the individual. As for Stitt, he wasn't prepared to coach at the FCS level. Good talker, self promoter.

 

[Grizzly96]

Why can't we just find a coach that will not lose another game (EVER), sign every top recruit, and win the National Championship every year? What could anyone possibly bitch about then?????? :roll:

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Helena: that would depend on the individual. As for Stitt, he wasn't prepared to coach at the FCS level. Good talker, self promoter.

Seems you want to discount the numerous others in college football that spoke highly of him. And I don't think lack of preparation is the issue, but his stubborn ego may be.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Why can't we just find a coach that will not lose another game (EVER), sign every top recruit, and win the National Championship every year? What could anyone possibly bitch about then?????? :roll:

Cheerleaders?

 

[Spanky]

Helena: he has an ego which likely is a cover up for his lack of knowledge.

 

[HelenaHandBasket]

Helena: he has an ego which likely is a cover up for his lack of knowledge.

Likely huh.