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Does Stitt Have Supporters?

havgrizfan said:
Brint, I agree. Yes, the Griz lost to a bunch of teams they play at home next season, but it could be very different next year. I actually think other than UDUB, that schedule is FAVORABLE. But I also agree, if the Griz can't find a QB, OL, and more pressure from the DE's, then it might be moot.
This is hilarious watching you two blame the quarterback, or other players, pretending the loss to MSU was just a technical matter, wrong guy in the wrong position. Nothing to do with the coach losing the team. Nothing to see here. Nothing to see here. What is it about fully delusional people?
havgrizfan said:
Last time I checked, the Cats are pretty bigtime losers this season. I don't give Choate crap at all. He's clearly a good football coach. But trying to equate ANYTHING the Bobcats are doing this season to the Griz being losers is absolutely f-----in moronic. The Cats are by FAR the worst team in the Big Sky. Stats might be for losers, but this thread is a f----n loser.
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BWahlberg » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:49 pm
I don't get it, I just don't get it. Look at this game on paper.
No, you don't.
 
BWahlberg said:
G-BEARS said:
Wahlberg on twitter has been going off on retweeting something comparing Stitt to Don Read, also saying something about how we need to trust the process. Might look there.

RT'd it from our SID of sorts.
Interesting back and forth between Meseroll and Taber on that - not good when the SID doesn't understand the keys to the Cadillac reference. Makes you wonder how much the current administration understands Griz history.
 
75, perhaps with all your coaching experience and athletic insight you could offer to peer mentor the coaching staff. It appears that you and Stitt are very similar, maybe you can convince him to see things your way.
 
Grizbeer said:
BWahlberg said:
G-BEARS said:
Wahlberg on twitter has been going off on retweeting something comparing Stitt to Don Read, also saying something about how we need to trust the process. Might look there.

RT'd it from our SID of sorts.
Interesting back and forth between Meseroll and Taber on that - not good when the SID doesn't understand the keys to the Cadillac reference. Makes you wonder how much the current administration understands Griz history.

I'm pretty sure Taber knows what the reference means, I think he might have been questioning the use of the reference. Both him and his brother for that matter are big time Griz fans, volunteers, and long time supporters, I'm pretty sure they know the teams history.
 
BWahlberg said:
Grizbeer said:
BWahlberg said:
G-BEARS said:
Wahlberg on twitter has been going off on retweeting something comparing Stitt to Don Read, also saying something about how we need to trust the process. Might look there.

RT'd it from our SID of sorts.
Interesting back and forth between Meseroll and Taber on that - not good when the SID doesn't understand the keys to the Cadillac reference. Makes you wonder how much the current administration understands Griz history.

I'm pretty sure Taber knows what the reference means, I think he might have been questioning the use of the reference. Both him and his brother for that matter are big time Griz fans, volunteers, and long time supporters, I'm pretty sure they know the teams history.
I'll take your word for it, but equating Don Read's second year to Stitt's doesn't make much sense - and I am not sure why he would question the Cadillac reference, considering Joe Glenn took over a team that for the previous 3 straight years lost in the first round of the playoffs, while Stitt took over a team that 2 years prior was a top 8 seed in the playoffs, and the previous year won a game in the playoffs.
 
BWahlberg said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
BWahlberg said:
G-BEARS said:
Wahlberg on twitter has been going off on retweeting something comparing Stitt to Don Read, also saying something about how we need to trust the process. Might look there.

RT'd it from our SID of sorts.




He needs 1 more year. First of all that's the term of his contract. Secondly he needs another year to hopefully show us that 6-5 or 7-4 for that matter are not acceptable and this team will be better. If not... then we find a new coach.

I really really struggle thinking that the Griz can do better than 6-5 next season. Schedule is difficult and knowing what is coming back, 7-4 or better might be out of reach.

It really hinges on QB. If that can fall into place I see 9-2 or 8-3.

If not... yeah


b/w,,,your comment on the qb falling into place is troublesome to me....any idea of who that will be and why will it be that guy.....this is really the question for next year.....thanks for any insight, I value your ideas on this.
 
Bob Stitt, and. Don Read. Do not belong in the same sentence. Period. Even if you have to break the few grammatical rules I remember.
 
A couple of things to keep in mind. First 75 has a personal dislike of Stitt so he is incapable of looking at the situation objectively. Two, this is all about giving a coach a fair opportunity to prove his worth. Two years is simply not a fair opportunity. What if we did fire Stitt now and after two years his replacement performed in the same manner, do we then fire him too?? In that case, the Griz program would never be rebuilt. No good coach in their right mind would come here.

The nose dive at the end of the season is very troubling and makes me seriously question whether Stitt is up for the job. If the nose dive continues next year I actually think Stitt would resign as he knows that winning is a must. I'm hoping he is able to right the ship.
 
Spanky said:
We have heard from many people unhappy with Stitt. Some would like him removed.
Does he have any defenders who would like him to remain as the Griz coach? It would be interesting to hear from them.


I support Stitt; however, if we have a season like this next year I'm not sure I would retain him. By year 3 we should have an idea. Run game - rush defense & offense needs improvement.
 
Grizbeer said:
BWahlberg said:
Grizbeer said:
BWahlberg said:
RT'd it from our SID of sorts.
Interesting back and forth between Meseroll and Taber on that - not good when the SID doesn't understand the keys to the Cadillac reference. Makes you wonder how much the current administration understands Griz history.

I'm pretty sure Taber knows what the reference means, I think he might have been questioning the use of the reference. Both him and his brother for that matter are big time Griz fans, volunteers, and long time supporters, I'm pretty sure they know the teams history.
I'll take your word for it, but equating Don Read's second year to Stitt's doesn't make much sense - and I am not sure why he would question the Cadillac reference, considering Joe Glenn took over a team that for the previous 3 straight years lost in the first round of the playoffs, while Stitt took over a team that 2 years prior was a top 8 seed in the playoffs, and the previous year won a game in the playoffs.
Comparing the playoff system then to the one now aren't exactly apples to apples. The equivalent would be how Delaney did in the round of 16 and the answer would be 0-2 with one loss at home and one on the road. Also, Joe didn't take over a team down four scholarships each of his first two years.

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ranco said:
A couple of things to keep in mind. First 75 has a personal dislike of Stitt so he is incapable of looking at the situation objectively.
Nothing personal about it. I said early on I don't like the way he treats players.

So, here we are.

Objectively.
 
Montana's 6 wins came against teams with a combined record of 23-43. Montana's 5 losses came against teams with a combined record of 32-23 (EWU had 10 of those wins). IF Alpha is correct that there will be player and/or coaching defections then I will get very worried. Stitt should get another year but if he goes backwards again it will be difficult to make an argument that he is capable of turning this program around...
 
grizfnz said:
75, perhaps with all your coaching experience and athletic insight you could offer to peer mentor the coaching staff. It appears that you and Stitt are very similar, maybe you can convince him to see things your way.
Treat the players like a real coach treats players, instead of belittling them constantly and throwing temper tantrums. Inspire them, don't humiliate them.
 
UMGriz75 said:
ranco said:
A couple of things to keep in mind. First 75 has a personal dislike of Stitt so he is incapable of looking at the situation objectively.
Nothing personal about it. I said early on I don't like the way he treats players.

So, here we are.

Objectively.

Do you have first hand knowledge about how poorly he treats players or is this just your opinion based on what you have read and/or not read?
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
UMGriz75 said:
ranco said:
A couple of things to keep in mind. First 75 has a personal dislike of Stitt so he is incapable of looking at the situation objectively.
Nothing personal about it. I said early on I don't like the way he treats players.

So, here we are.

Objectively.
Do you have first hand knowledge about how poorly he treats players or is this just your opinion based on what you have read and/or not read?
Why don't you go talk to some players sometime? Then you'll know the answer and you won't have to take my word for anything. It will satisfy your racoon-like curiosity, and save me the annoyance of your asinine comments.
 
UMGriz75 said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
UMGriz75 said:
ranco said:
A couple of things to keep in mind. First 75 has a personal dislike of Stitt so he is incapable of looking at the situation objectively.
Nothing personal about it. I said early on I don't like the way he treats players.

So, here we are.

Objectively.
Do you have first hand knowledge about how poorly he treats players or is this just your opinion based on what you have read and/or not read?
Why don't you go talk to some players sometime? Then you'll know the answer and you won't have to take my word for anything. It will satisfy your racoon-like curiosity, and save me the annoyance of your asinine comments.

It is a valid question. We have established it is your opinion based on watching games and supposedly speaking with a "bunch" of players.
 
BWahlberg said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
BWahlberg said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
I really really struggle thinking that the Griz can do better than 6-5 next season. Schedule is difficult and knowing what is coming back, 7-4 or better might be out of reach.

It really hinges on QB. If that can fall into place I see 9-2 or 8-3.

If not... yeah

I would really like to see you break that down on the schedule.

Sure. So, again going off the assumption that we get it locked in at QB here;

Valpo - Win, at home, should be an easy opener

UW - loss

EWU - toss up, their defense isn't great, and they're going to be replacing all those WRs, game is at home

PSU - win, poor defense, losing their stud QB, bad season this year

ISU - win, improving but not a great team,

UND - toss up, its in Wa Griz, I'm wondering if UND this year is like last years SUU

Weber - toss up, honestly I've not really looked into their team since we haven't played them in a few years. But in their house and with the defense they've built up, I'd lean to a loss here if it were this year, but just not sure on what Weebz will look like next year.

NAU - win, later season game in Wa Griz usually doesn't go well for NAU. This one could be a hell of a game if Cookus is back and healthy.

UNC - win, again in our house and hopefully with far fewer execution errors this time around

MSU - win, they're not a great team yet and will still be young and lose some of their best talent on offense (Brekke and Newell).

Presumed D2 plug in team - win.

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So UW is the obvious loss, Weber, EWU, UND the toss ups. That's a swing from 7-4 to 10-1 depending on how they handle the three conference games. And two of the three are at home.

Again that's making a massive assumption at QB.

Brint, fair enough, but I think you are far to optimistic.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
BWahlberg said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
BWahlberg said:
It really hinges on QB. If that can fall into place I see 9-2 or 8-3.

If not... yeah

I would really like to see you break that down on the schedule.

Sure. So, again going off the assumption that we get it locked in at QB here;

Valpo - Win, at home, should be an easy opener

UW - loss

EWU - toss up, their defense isn't great, and they're going to be replacing all those WRs, game is at home

PSU - win, poor defense, losing their stud QB, bad season this year

ISU - win, improving but not a great team,

UND - toss up, its in Wa Griz, I'm wondering if UND this year is like last years SUU

Weber - toss up, honestly I've not really looked into their team since we haven't played them in a few years. But in their house and with the defense they've built up, I'd lean to a loss here if it were this year, but just not sure on what Weebz will look like next year.

NAU - win, later season game in Wa Griz usually doesn't go well for NAU. This one could be a hell of a game if Cookus is back and healthy.

UNC - win, again in our house and hopefully with far fewer execution errors this time around

MSU - win, they're not a great team yet and will still be young and lose some of their best talent on offense (Brekke and Newell).

Presumed D2 plug in team - win.

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So UW is the obvious loss, Weber, EWU, UND the toss ups. That's a swing from 7-4 to 10-1 depending on how they handle the three conference games. And two of the three are at home.

Again that's making a massive assumption at QB.

Brint, fair enough, but I think you are far to optimistic.

Well they don't call me a sugarcoater for nothing.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
BWahlberg said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
BWahlberg said:
It really hinges on QB. If that can fall into place I see 9-2 or 8-3.

If not... yeah

I would really like to see you break that down on the schedule.

Sure. So, again going off the assumption that we get it locked in at QB here;

Valpo - Win, at home, should be an easy opener

UW - loss

EWU - toss up, their defense isn't great, and they're going to be replacing all those WRs, game is at home

PSU - win, poor defense, losing their stud QB, bad season this year

ISU - win, improving but not a great team,

UND - toss up, its in Wa Griz, I'm wondering if UND this year is like last years SUU

Weber - toss up, honestly I've not really looked into their team since we haven't played them in a few years. But in their house and with the defense they've built up, I'd lean to a loss here if it were this year, but just not sure on what Weebz will look like next year.

NAU - win, later season game in Wa Griz usually doesn't go well for NAU. This one could be a hell of a game if Cookus is back and healthy.

UNC - win, again in our house and hopefully with far fewer execution errors this time around

MSU - win, they're not a great team yet and will still be young and lose some of their best talent on offense (Brekke and Newell).

Presumed D2 plug in team - win.

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So UW is the obvious loss, Weber, EWU, UND the toss ups. That's a swing from 7-4 to 10-1 depending on how they handle the three conference games. And two of the three are at home.

Again that's making a massive assumption at QB.

Brint, fair enough, but I think you are far to optimistic.

Think about the difference between 7-4 and 10-1 as far as Stitt's future is concerned. Interesting.
 
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