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Defense

Irish$$$ said:
The fact is. People on egriz and 99% of the public have no idea how complicated the Griz defense is from the back end. Keep in mind we have an NFL safeties coach designing and calling the defense. Yes, we play a lot of man coverage, as we blitz 5-6 guys all the time. The safeties in this defense have tremendous conflict most of the time. Example: they are usually locked up on a slot wr, te or back when it is trips to their side. With this responsibility, they are also responsible for the run part of the RPO game. Imagine yourself with both a tremendous amount of run responsibility and man pass coverage at the same time.
I personally love this defense as it is constantly pressuring the offense. You know, this may surprise some of you but typically the opposing team has good players too. They will make plays too. Obviously, based on our 7-0 record, we are making more than the other team.

Hate to see people call out players individually when they have no idea what they are talking.
Go GRIZ!
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The main issue I have seen is the front and backend seem to get disjointed at times, so more along the lapse of execution. In many instances, the casual points fingers at a guy not understanding the assignments so it is misplaced.
 
Irish$$$ said:
The fact is. People on egriz and 99% of the public have no idea how complicated the Griz defense is from the back end. Keep in mind we have an NFL safeties coach designing and calling the defense. Yes, we play a lot of man coverage, as we blitz 5-6 guys all the time. The safeties in this defense have tremendous conflict most of the time. Example: they are usually locked up on a slot wr, te or back when it is trips to their side. With this responsibility, they are also responsible for the run part of the RPO game. Imagine yourself with both a tremendous amount of run responsibility and man pass coverage at the same time.
I personally love this defense as it is constantly pressuring the offense. You know, this may surprise some of you but typically the opposing team has good players too. They will make plays too. Obviously, based on our 7-0 record, we are making more than the other team.

Hate to see people call out players individually when they have no idea what they are talking.
Go GRIZ!
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Great post. I'm not trying to be hard on people, but I don't think people understand how difficult modern offenses are. we aren't just sitting in Cover 0 with only 1 responsibility, there are a multitude of checks on any given formation and then you add the motion which is another check. There's so much information the secondary has to process in milliseconds. It's not easy.
 
Irish$$$ said:
The fact is. People on egriz and 99% of the public have no idea how complicated the Griz defense is from the back end. Keep in mind we have an NFL safeties coach designing and calling the defense. Yes, we play a lot of man coverage, as we blitz 5-6 guys all the time. The safeties in this defense have tremendous conflict most of the time. Example: they are usually locked up on a slot wr, te or back when it is trips to their side. With this responsibility, they are also responsible for the run part of the RPO game. Imagine yourself with both a tremendous amount of run responsibility and man pass coverage at the same time.
I personally love this defense as it is constantly pressuring the offense. You know, this may surprise some of you but typically the opposing team has good players too. They will make plays too. Obviously, based on our 7-0 record, we are making more than the other team.

Hate to see people call out players individually when they have no idea what they are talking.
Go GRIZ!
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You’re right, most of us don’t have the breadth of knowledge about the game that it seems like you might have, but what we do have are stats which even us casual fans can understand. We’re 7-0 and that’s fantastic, but we can also look at the stat sheet and see some glaring weaknesses. Looking at the stats you can clearly see we’re not real good at defending the pass. At 93/126 there are only 33 teams in the entire FCS with worse passing defense. So while you are correct that our backend might be too complicated for us plebeians to understand, it’s an irrefutable statistical fact that the backend of that complicated defense is giving up more passing yards than just about 2/3 of the entire FCS. That we can understand, and that’s not great 🤷‍♂️
 
406football said:
Great post. I'm not trying to be hard on people, but I don't think people understand how difficult modern offenses are. we aren't just sitting in Cover 0 with only 1 responsibility, there are a multitude of checks on any given formation and then you add the motion which is another check. There's so much information the secondary has to process in milliseconds. It's not easy.
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Exactly
 
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
You’re right, most of us don’t have the breadth of knowledge about the game that it seems like you might have, but what we do have are stats which even us casual fans can understand. We’re 7-0 and that’s fantastic, but we can also look at the stat sheet and see some glaring weaknesses. Looking at the stats you can clearly see we’re not real good at defending the pass. At 93/126 there are only 33 teams in the entire FCS with worse passing defense. So while you are correct that our backend might be too complicated for us plebeians to understand, it’s an irrefutable statistical fact that the backend of that complicated defense is giving up more passing yards than just about 2/3 of the entire FCS. That we can understand, and that’s not great 🤷‍♂️
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Fair enough! I’m always going to defend players when they are individually called out.
 
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
You’re right, most of us don’t have the breadth of knowledge about the game that it seems like you might have, but what we do have are stats which even us casual fans can understand. We’re 7-0 and that’s fantastic, but we can also look at the stat sheet and see some glaring weaknesses. Looking at the stats you can clearly see we’re not real good at defending the pass. At 93/126 there are only 33 teams in the entire FCS with worse passing defense. So while you are correct that our backend might be too complicated for us plebeians to understand, it’s an irrefutable statistical fact that the backend of that complicated defense is giving up more passing yards than just about 2/3 of the entire FCS. That we can understand, and that’s not great
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Presbyterian and Lehigh are 7-0 too
 
Defensive stats as of this week (all FCS)

- rush defense 52/126 - 4.27 YPC - 144.1 YPG
- pass defense 100/126 - 12.73 YPC- 247.4 YPG
- scoring defense 32/126 - 23.33 PPG
- total defense - 80/126
 
hm.grwn.grizfan said:
Considering we’re 32/126 in scoring defense and 24/126 in red zone defense, I’d say we’re the textbook definition of “bend don’t break defense” this season.
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In some ways, I can agree. This is the problem with statistics, though. How many of the passing yards against us have come when Hauck is killing the clock with prevent defense and just allowing them to take small gains down the field while the clock ticks? How many points were scored that way on us?

I think we had some difficulties early when Loud went down, but this defense is rounding into form (as many people said they would over time.) I don't think we have been bending quite as much as stats sheets would suggest.
 
Forgotten in the discussion, is the steady improvement of the defense and once Loud is back (hopefully) then that changes things too! We will be happy at the end of the day on November 22nd and with the playoff run!!!
 
granitegriz said:
Forgotten in the discussion, is the steady improvement of the defense and once Loud is back (hopefully) then that changes things too! We will be happy at the end of the day on November 22nd and with the playoff run!!!
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FWIW statistically the defense has not improved much if at all
 
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