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Defense Wins Championships

Hawkeyebowhunter said:
PlayerRep said:
Hawkeyebowhunter said:
PlayerRep said:
As Growler likes to tell people, "Defense Wins Championships".

"Most total yards in a game in NFL history

The two teams didn't just combine to break the Super Bowl record for most total yards in a game, but the 1,151 combined yards is the most ever in any game in NFL history. Both teams averaged more than 8.5 yards per pass and over five yards per rushing attempt."

One game a trend makes I guess?

Who said anything about a trend? I like good defenses and believe they are important. However, the number of posters who just throw cliches makes me laugh.

You were inferring it when you downplayed the importance of defense, by trying to for some reason bring Growler's defense wins championships mantra into it.

A vast majority of the time, a good defense will keep an average team in a game..a great defense can make that team look better than average. It isn't a statistical anomaly, this last Super Bowl however was.

No, you inferred it, but you were wrong. The recipient "infers", and that was you. The writer "implies".

I did not "play down" the importance of defense, except to say that it is not true that defense wins championships. Defense is important, but it does not always win championships, particularly in this day and age of huge offense.

I played defense in college. On a very good defense. We were dominant one year, giving up only 42 points and recording 6 shut outs. Didn't give up a field goal. However, our offense was good and very important too. It takes many things to have a championship team. Defense wins championships is just a cliché.

Your last para is closer to reality. However, what you said in that para does not equal defense wins championships.
 
BadlandsGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
BadlandsGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
As Growler likes to tell people, "Defense Wins Championships".

"Most total yards in a game in NFL history

The two teams didn't just combine to break the Super Bowl record for most total yards in a game, but the 1,151 combined yards is the most ever in any game in NFL history. Both teams averaged more than 8.5 yards per pass and over five yards per rushing attempt."

I mean...if one of the teams defenses would have decided to show up during the game...that team would have likely won tho. ..

True, and if one of the offenses had just made another play or two, that team would have likely won. And if no. 55 hadn't made a tremendous play by getting close enough to Brady to knock the ball out, it would have been a different game. And if a Patriot corner hadn't been smoking weed and breaking curfew by having women in his room, it might have been a different game. It was a close game.

Where did you hear he was smoking weed and had women in his room?

Instagram from former Patriot player and Butler's friend:

"bbrowner39He not the first to get caught with weed, 🤷🏾‍♂️, curfew also meant we are not allowed to have guest especially women. I’ve ate chicken(Popeyes) in the room with a player and his wife after curfew. Bill seen that look in Toms eyes last night and thought we can win without our role players...."

https://www.instagram.com/p/Be01NX5Dic2/

Note that Butler did play on special teams.
 
PlayerRep said:
Hawkeyebowhunter said:
PlayerRep said:
Hawkeyebowhunter said:
One game a trend makes I guess?

Who said anything about a trend? I like good defenses and believe they are important. However, the number of posters who just throw cliches makes me laugh.

You were inferring it when you downplayed the importance of defense, by trying to for some reason bring Growler's defense wins championships mantra into it.

A vast majority of the time, a good defense will keep an average team in a game..a great defense can make that team look better than average. It isn't a statistical anomaly, this last Super Bowl however was.

No, you inferred it, but you were wrong. The recipient "infers", and that was you. The writer "implies".

I did not "play down" the importance of defense, except to say that it is not true that defense wins championships. Defense is important, but it does not always win championships, particularly in this day and age of huge offense.

I played defense in college. On a very good defense. We were dominant one year, giving up only 42 points and recording 6 shut outs. Didn't give up a field goal. However, our offense was good and very important too. It takes many things to have a championship team. Defense wins championships is just a cliché.

Your last para is closer to reality. However, what you said in that para does not equal defense wins championships.

My mistake for the infer/imply.

I'm not saying offense doesn't matter or isn't as important, just that I believe a good defense is more beneficial than a good offense.
 
Yep two good defenses, the patriots and eagles had the 1st and 6th ranked scoring defenses in the league respectively. And the 7th and 11th ranked total defenses. Two very good defenses, the title is correct.
 
PlayerRep said:
As Growler likes to tell people, "Defense Wins Championships".

"Most total yards in a game in NFL history

The two teams didn't just combine to break the Super Bowl record for most total yards in a game, but the 1,151 combined yards is the most ever in any game in NFL history. Both teams averaged more than 8.5 yards per pass and over five yards per rushing attempt."

:thumb: I love to see a team with NO defense win with great offense. You can argue relative importance, but it can be summed up thus: A great offense beats a great defense, and vice versa. And if they don't, they weren't (great). :lol:
 
EverettGriz said:
At an afterparty.


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Pretty funny EG....
 
So, if the Eagles hadn't scored on 4th and 1 at the end of the first half on the Philly Special (that was offense, by the way), would they have won the game?

Offense wins championships, sometimes.
 
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