Crapping on our Safties!

[Mursa Uajor]

What kind of jackass creates an alternative identity on an anonymous message board to promote their original screen identity?

+1

I imagine he has an emotionally fragile ego and is incapable of truly close relationships with others.

 

[Ursa Major]

What kind of jackass creates an alternative identity on an anonymous message board to promote their original screen identity?

+1

I imagine he has an emotionally fragile ego and is incapable of truly close relationships with others.

Great first post! Welcome to E-Griz!!

 

[Tod]

What kind of jackass creates an alternative identity on an anonymous message board to promote their original screen identity?

+1

I imagine he has an emotionally fragile ego and is incapable of truly close relationships with others.

Great first post! Welcome to E-Griz!!

Ha ha! You douche. Made me pee myself a little.

 

[rimrockgriz]

What kind of jackass creates an alternative identity on an anonymous message board to promote their original screen identity?

+1

I imagine he has an emotionally fragile ego and is incapable of truly close relationships with others.

Great first post! Welcome to E-Griz!!

2 mornings in a row I roll out the door belly laughing... :lol: :lol: :lol: Even if we agree to disagree I still love you guys on Saturdays in the fall. :wtf: Where's that time warp button??? :egriz:

 

[Thurman Murman]

Thurman is pretty much spot on with everything.

See all is not lost. There are still a few who understand football. thanks

 

[Thurman Murman]

What kind of jackass creates an alternative identity on an anonymous message board to promote their original screen identity?

Hey Ursa. You seem to be well established here. How about you contact one of the mods and ask them to confirm that this is my only screen name and not linked to any other account? Or how about you search all of my posts and see for yourself that there is no pattern behind them in supporting one topic, player, or other poster? Of course that might prove your little theory wrong so I assume you will not do so. Doesn't being wrong suck?

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Dear thurman murman:
All I want for Christmas is a safety who can make the play when he is IN position. :roll: This does NOT have a f.....g thing to do with cover 2, 3, 4, or the dreaded... MAN UNDER. I don't care what the coverage is or where our db's are lined up at the snap of the ball...My point has ALWAYS been with ball skills when the football is airborne. uke: You can look that up also...but it would be a waste of your sanguine surveillance seconds... Your long, boring post did not deal with the problem...ATHLETICISM. The thresh hold for pr.....g up again like this is miniscule...trust me. I haven't seen Whited play, but I can assure you if he's all that, he'll be getting his shot. :egriz:

You know your are right. I bet the coaches, you know the ones that get paid to do this, would love to have you in for the day to evaluate the safeties and tell them which ones should be playing. I am sure they would love to have you show them all the other players that are better than the starters since they just can't figure it out.

One thing you are failing to understand. The coaches want the best players playing. Why wouldn't they? To them, this is a business and if they don't perform they can be fired. So I think it is safe to say they will play the best players. And wouldn't you know it last year that was tully and hermy by a long shot. I know that is so hard for you to believe because it is oh so easy to sit back on egriz and say so and so is better or maybe so and so should move to safety because they would be the best safety since timmy. Guess what, you are wrong. And if you think you are more qualified than those making the decision then perhaps you should get your resume to the head coach or AD.

Hermy has shown his athletic/playmaking ability his first year. What changed? Well I think the simplest explanation would be his injuries, no shut down corner, a new coach, and the loss of most of the starters around him. That being said, the purpose of my post was not to talk the safeties up, but rather to put the true situation in perspective for those with less football knowledge. The lack of knowledge on how a division one secondary operates was simply too astonishing to not be addressed.

As to whitted. Time will tell. So far he has done nothing to show that he will be great. He does show potential and I hope he competes and pushes the current starters. And guess what? I bet the coaches hope so too. And if he does show he is the best I can guarantee he will start and the egriz armchair coaches will finally have a theory that worked out. But of course if he doesn't start it is a conspiracy to keep the two starters in place or the coaches got it wrong and should be replaced by a candidate voted on by egrizers.

Thurman:

I agree with some of your points. I disagree with some of your points. I agree with Rimrock too. I think it is the " I want to clarify something for the less knowledgable football fans" attitude that some of the "pro starting safeties crowd " displays that bothers some posters. That kind of football snobbery is a little "childish" don't you think? Here are some thoughts concerning what you posted on this subject-

* yes a better offense in 2013 will help the overall defense. It won't help the safeties be better players but it will help the team win even if the safeties have another poor year.

*yes lack of safety depth killed the Griz last year. They had two season ending injuries(Lebsock, Coogan) during early September. That limited the options in dealing with Hermy/Tully.

*yes the safeties coach, Leon, was too old and ineffective. But he was Delaney's age so what does that say?

*Coach Pflugrad knew we had trouble at the safety position after the 2011 season. He brought in a JC transfer. That is a clear indicator of his thoughts.

*Hermanson had trouble before any injury issues supposedly came up. He looked bad in the SHSU semi final game in 2011,the South Dakota game and the App State game. Just look at the tape. He is not great in "space" and he has trouble against the more athletic players.

*Tully just can 't tackle very well and he is out of position a lot.

*yes coaches want to put the best talent on the field but some just can't evaluate talent and make mistakes. That has been happening since the beginning of coaching. There are just too many examples of big historical mistakes to mention.

*the Griz will be a much better team in 2013. This safety issue will play its self out which great. E-Griz needs to move on from this "dead horse" issue soon.

 

[PlayerRep]

Dear thurman murman:
All I want for Christmas is a safety who can make the play when he is IN position. :roll: This does NOT have a f.....g thing to do with cover 2, 3, 4, or the dreaded... MAN UNDER. I don't care what the coverage is or where our db's are lined up at the snap of the ball...My point has ALWAYS been with ball skills when the football is airborne. uke: You can look that up also...but it would be a waste of your sanguine surveillance seconds... Your long, boring post did not deal with the problem...ATHLETICISM. The thresh hold for pr.....g up again like this is miniscule...trust me. I haven't seen Whited play, but I can assure you if he's all that, he'll be getting his shot. :egriz:

You know your are right. I bet the coaches, you know the ones that get paid to do this, would love to have you in for the day to evaluate the safeties and tell them which ones should be playing. I am sure they would love to have you show them all the other players that are better than the starters since they just can't figure it out.

One thing you are failing to understand. The coaches want the best players playing. Why wouldn't they? To them, this is a business and if they don't perform they can be fired. So I think it is safe to say they will play the best players. And wouldn't you know it last year that was tully and hermy by a long shot. I know that is so hard for you to believe because it is oh so easy to sit back on egriz and say so and so is better or maybe so and so should move to safety because they would be the best safety since timmy. Guess what, you are wrong. And if you think you are more qualified than those making the decision then perhaps you should get your resume to the head coach or AD.

Hermy has shown his athletic/playmaking ability his first year. What changed? Well I think the simplest explanation would be his injuries, no shut down corner, a new coach, and the loss of most of the starters around him. That being said, the purpose of my post was not to talk the safeties up, but rather to put the true situation in perspective for those with less football knowledge. The lack of knowledge on how a division one secondary operates was simply too astonishing to not be addressed.

As to whitted. Time will tell. So far he has done nothing to show that he will be great. He does show potential and I hope he competes and pushes the current starters. And guess what? I bet the coaches hope so too. And if he does show he is the best I can guarantee he will start and the egriz armchair coaches will finally have a theory that worked out. But of course if he doesn't start it is a conspiracy to keep the two starters in place or the coaches got it wrong and should be replaced by a candidate voted on by egrizers.

Thurman:

I agree with some of your points. I disagree with some of your points. I agree with Rimrock too. I think it is the " I want to clarify something for the less knowledgable football fans" attitude that some of the "pro starting safeties crowd " displays that bothers some posters. That kind of football snobbery is a little "childish" don't you think? Here are some thoughts concerning what you posted on this subject-

* yes a better offense in 2013 will help the overall defense. It won't help the safeties be better players but it will help the team win even if the safeties have another poor year.

*yes lack of safety depth killed the Griz last year. They had two season ending injuries(Lebsock, Coogan) during early September. That limited the options in dealing with Hermy/Tully.

*yes the safeties coach, Leon, was too old and ineffective. But he was Delaney's age so what does that say?

*Coach Pflugrad knew we had trouble at the safety position after the 2011 season. He brought in a JC transfer. That is a clear indicator of his thoughts.

*Hermanson had trouble before any injury issues supposedly came up. He looked bad in the SHSU semi final game in 2011,the South Dakota game and the App State game. Just look at the tape. He is not great in "space" and he has trouble against the more athletic players.

*Tully just can 't tackle very well and he is out of position a lot.

*yes coaches want to put the best talent on the field but some just can't evaluate talent and make mistakes. That has been happening since the beginning of coaching. There are just too many examples of big historical mistakes to mention.

*the Griz will be a much better team in 2013. This safety issue will play its self out which great. E-Griz needs to move on from this "dead horse" issue soon.

Thurman, keep up the good posting. The vast majority of readers appreciate your information and know that it is terrific. Only the babies, of which there are a number, will react negatively. They think they know alot about football, even though it is obvious to knowledgeable people that they don't, and will complain and attack the posts of knowledgeable posters who disagree with them.

Obviously, a better offense helps keep the defense off the field, and keeps them from getting tired as the game progresses. More depth also helps.

Having younger position coaches is more important than having a younger head coach. Position coaches are the coaches that interact the most with the players, and get to know the players better.

Don't know what Pflu thought in '11, but bringing in another player is not necessarily an indication that the position is in trouble.

Hermanson was very much impacted by his neck/disc problem and toe problem. He had off-season surgery, I believe. To indicate that his injuries didn't impact his play is ridiculous.

Tully and others need to improve tackling and be in better position at times. To say Tully can't tackle is ridiculous.

To say our best safety talent wasn't on the field last year is utterly ridiculous. Tully and Hermanson will start this season too, barring injury or some all-american dropping from the sky.

Yes, egriz needs to move on from bashing the safeties, in particular the starters.

 

[PhxGriz]

Ok I usually take summers off because it just gets too damn hot in my surveillance van. However, I have to chime in on this one because I see too many uniformed opinions. Did our safeties play well last year? Nope. That being said, they did not play as bad as many here think. Although he is not completely correct on all issues, PR does have this one figured out more than most of you.

Reasons for bad safety play or the appearance of bad safety play last season include.


-A very solid front 7 that pretty much shut down MOST teams run games, led to a higher percentage of passes.
-A first year DC who is still learning and lost 9 starters including 2 NFL draft guys.
-A safety coach who quite frankly was just too old to effectively coach/communicate.
-A lack of shut down corners who could help the safeties out.
-Injuries
-An offense who was ineffective at best.
-A lack of safety depth to provide both rest and more importantly competition to push the safety play to be better.


Things that will be changed and I think will help turn around safety play next year.

-A DC and a complete secondary with another year of experience under their belt.
-JJ IS BACK. This one is more important than many people realize. The best defense is a good offense. Simply put, the O did not do a good enough job of putting long drives together and keeping the D off the field. I joke that nobody is more happy to have JJ back than coach G.
-We will be playing more “press” coverage with our corners this year. This was evident in the spring and should make you “corners are 10 yards deep every play” guys happy.
-A young and knowledgeable safety coach who will demand the most from his players.
-look for a more aggressive year on D. More pressures with a man free type coverage. This requires both a D front who can get home and a D secondary who can cover. Coach G feels like this is going to be the case this year and I would not be surprised to see it result in more aggressive play calling.

Now to address some completely inaccurate statements. The corners did not line up 10 yards deep every play. Sometimes they did. Coaches had issues getting the young corners who lacked confidence to scoot up, but it was definitely not every play. For those who think we only played cover 2 or 3 last year. I suggest you watch some game film. Well over 1/3 of the D plays called were man or zone pressures. In fact, it was most often aggressive pressure calls that relied too heavily on our DB’s that led to big plays. Also, those claiming it was easy to tell that we were in cover 2 or 3 obviously have only limited high school football knowledge. Little to no division one college football teams run basic cover 2 or 3. The griz certainly do not. There may be a base 2 or 3 initial call (it is usually 4 or simply zone for the griz), but the field is then broken in half and a combination of the initial call and the offensive formation dictate what coverage is played to that side (very often the D may be running say cover 2 on one half of the field and say cover 3 on the other). If you want to see evidence of this just watch the safety/corner/linebacker on one side of the field communicate through hand signals what the coverage is as the O comes to the line.

As painful as it is to some of you, PR is actually pretty correct on this one. Secondary play at this level is not as simple as you think. It was comical to get on this board during/after the game and listen to many posters call a certain player out for a long pass completion simply because they were close to the play. When in fact, a completely different player was responsible for the mistake. I imagine that 95% of posters on this board would be completely lost in a D meeting discussing secondary scheme. The posters claiming it is simply basic cover 2, 3, or man are a perfect example. This simply is not the case. Lastly, for those who though the solution was to play different players you were also misinformed. There simply was not anyone who was better than the starters (I know it is hard to believe for some of you, but it was the case).

Whew. I wish I could have said all that in less words. But it simply is not cut and dry like so many of you think, so I felt it deserved a detailed explanation. Safety play WAS NOT good enough last year, but it was also not as bad as some though (it was often a combination of factors listed above in addition to the actual play of the safeties). I look for there to be some good improvement this year.

Oh yeah thurman, you are fat and not even an old Griz.
Pussy.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

Well I wouldn't go that far. Perhaps you just need to get to know me.

Ha! Just perpetuating the craziness of this thread. :thumb:

 

[CV Griz Fan]

Dear thurman murman:
All I want for Christmas is a safety who can make the play when he is IN position. :roll: This does NOT have a f.....g thing to do with cover 2, 3, 4, or the dreaded... MAN UNDER. I don't care what the coverage is or where our db's are lined up at the snap of the ball...My point has ALWAYS been with ball skills when the football is airborne. uke: You can look that up also...but it would be a waste of your sanguine surveillance seconds... Your long, boring post did not deal with the problem...ATHLETICISM. The thresh hold for pr.....g up again like this is miniscule...trust me. I haven't seen Whited play, but I can assure you if he's all that, he'll be getting his shot. :egriz:

You know your are right. I bet the coaches, you know the ones that get paid to do this, would love to have you in for the day to evaluate the safeties and tell them which ones should be playing. I am sure they would love to have you show them all the other players that are better than the starters since they just can't figure it out.

One thing you are failing to understand. The coaches want the best players playing. Why wouldn't they? To them, this is a business and if they don't perform they can be fired. So I think it is safe to say they will play the best players. And wouldn't you know it last year that was tully and hermy by a long shot. I know that is so hard for you to believe because it is oh so easy to sit back on egriz and say so and so is better or maybe so and so should move to safety because they would be the best safety since timmy. Guess what, you are wrong. And if you think you are more qualified than those making the decision then perhaps you should get your resume to the head coach or AD.

Hermy has shown his athletic/playmaking ability his first year. What changed? Well I think the simplest explanation would be his injuries, no shut down corner, a new coach, and the loss of most of the starters around him. That being said, the purpose of my post was not to talk the safeties up, but rather to put the true situation in perspective for those with less football knowledge. The lack of knowledge on how a division one secondary operates was simply too astonishing to not be addressed.

As to whitted. Time will tell. So far he has done nothing to show that he will be great. He does show potential and I hope he competes and pushes the current starters. And guess what? I bet the coaches hope so too. And if he does show he is the best I can guarantee he will start and the egriz armchair coaches will finally have a theory that worked out. But of course if he doesn't start it is a conspiracy to keep the two starters in place or the coaches got it wrong and should be replaced by a candidate voted on by egrizers.

Thurman:

I agree with some of your points. I disagree with some of your points. I agree with Rimrock too. I think it is the " I want to clarify something for the less knowledgable football fans" attitude that some of the "pro starting safeties crowd " displays that bothers some posters. That kind of football snobbery is a little "childish" don't you think? Here are some thoughts concerning what you posted on this subject-

* yes a better offense in 2013 will help the overall defense. It won't help the safeties be better players but it will help the team win even if the safeties have another poor year.

*yes lack of safety depth killed the Griz last year. They had two season ending injuries(Lebsock, Coogan) during early September. That limited the options in dealing with Hermy/Tully.

*yes the safeties coach, Leon, was too old and ineffective. But he was Delaney's age so what does that say?

*Coach Pflugrad knew we had trouble at the safety position after the 2011 season. He brought in a JC transfer. That is a clear indicator of his thoughts.

*Hermanson had trouble before any injury issues supposedly came up. He looked bad in the SHSU semi final game in 2011,the South Dakota game and the App State game. Just look at the tape. He is not great in "space" and he has trouble against the more athletic players.

*Tully just can 't tackle very well and he is out of position a lot.

*yes coaches want to put the best talent on the field but some just can't evaluate talent and make mistakes. That has been happening since the beginning of coaching. There are just too many examples of big historical mistakes to mention.

*the Griz will be a much better team in 2013. This safety issue will play its self out which great. E-Griz needs to move on from this "dead horse" issue soon.

Thurman, keep up the good posting. The vast majority of readers appreciate your information and know that it is terrific. Only the babies, of which there are a number, will react negatively. They think they know alot about football, even though it is obvious to knowledgeable people that they don't, and will complain and attack the posts of knowledgeable posters who disagree with them.

Obviously, a better offense helps keep the defense off the field, and keeps them from getting tired as the game progresses. More depth also helps.

Having younger position coaches is more important than having a younger head coach. Position coaches are the coaches that interact the most with the players, and get to know the players better.

Don't know what Pflu thought in '11, but bringing in another player is not necessarily an indication that the position is in trouble.

Hermanson was very much impacted by his neck/disc problem and toe problem. He had off-season surgery, I believe. To indicate that his injuries didn't impact his play is ridiculous.

Tully and others need to improve tackling and be in better position at times. To say Tully can't tackle is ridiculous.

To say our best safety talent wasn't on the field last year is utterly ridiculous. Tully and Hermanson will start this season too, barring injury or some all-american dropping from the sky.

Yes, egriz needs to move on from bashing the safeties, in particular the starters.

PR:

Well since Thurman is your your "alter ego", then it does Stand to reason that you'd agree word for word with his post. Yes, knowledgeable football posters know when un-knowledgeable posters are posting. Believe me, they do. Is your post an attempt at "tooting your horn" or "pontificating"? It's hard to tell.

 

[Ursa Major]

What kind of jackass creates an alternative identity on an anonymous message board to promote their original screen identity?

Hey Ursa. You seem to be well established here. How about you contact one of the mods and ask them to confirm that this is my only screen name and not linked to any other account? Or how about you search all of my posts and see for yourself that there is no pattern behind them in supporting one topic, player, or other poster? Of course that might prove your little theory wrong so I assume you will not do so. Doesn't being wrong suck?

Thurman,

1) How about you contact one of the mods and ask them to confirm that this is my only screen name and not linked to any other account?

Sincerely, I really don't care. It was a joke. If you care to look at my postings you will find most of them are with the rest of the jesters on the adult conversation thread.

2) Or how about you search all of my posts and see for yourself that there is no pattern behind them in supporting one topic, player, or other poster?

I have a life...

I would suggest that you do have at least one similarity with PR, a seeming lack of ability to take a joke about yourself or make self deprecating statements. Relax, this is egriz. We're all idiots for spending time here. Have a drink and have fun!

In closing, if you would like to make the point that you are not PR, you simply have to draw some differences of opinions with him. What has he said in his posts that are wrong, stupid and just plain insane? The man has thousands of posts so I'm sure you could find something to disagree with him (e.g. Beau Donaldson). Wouldn't this clear up the matter?

How's that for a little theory?

 

[CV Griz Fan]

What kind of jackass creates an alternative identity on an anonymous message board to promote their original screen identity?

Hey Ursa. You seem to be well established here. How about you contact one of the mods and ask them to confirm that this is my only screen name and not linked to any other account? Or how about you search all of my posts and see for yourself that there is no pattern behind them in supporting one topic, player, or other poster? Of course that might prove your little theory wrong so I assume you will not do so. Doesn't being wrong suck?

Thurman,

1) How about you contact one of the mods and ask them to confirm that this is my only screen name and not linked to any other account?

Sincerely, I really don't care. It was a joke. If you care to look at my postings you will find most of them are with the rest of the jesters on the adult conversation thread.

2) Or how about you search all of my posts and see for yourself that there is no pattern behind them in supporting one topic, player, or other poster?

I have a life...

I would suggest that you do have at least one similarity with PR, a seeming lack of ability to take a joke about yourself or make self deprecating statements. Relax, this is egriz. We're all idiots for spending time here. Have a drink and have fun!

In closing, if you would like to make the point that you are not PR, you simply have to draw some differences of opinions with him. What has he said in his posts that are wrong, stupid and just plain insane? The man has thousands of posts so I'm sure you could find something to disagree with him (e.g. Beau Donaldson). Wouldn't this clear up the matter?

How's that for a little theory?

Winner, winner, chicken dinner! Nice job. I wonder if PR knows as much about synchronized swimming as Ethel err... Thurman does?

 

[Umista]

Nuts post on Egriz, no question. I am included.

Blasting another nut (poster) that is a die hard Griz fan is simply extra nutty!

Through all the BS I actually pick up decent information. It takes numerous posts to get any informative information but it does arrive if a person is calm and patient.

Fight, bitch and argue "becomes" some characters on many topics but I don't give a damn. Yes I do miss old Growler ie AZ etc. because he was so far out. So far out and radical that I enjoyed him. His problem was he was always getting after posters like PR and it took away all of his off the wall points.

I enjoy reading this egriz stuff or I would not be playing with you other nut cases that post. Truth is I don't want any to know who the hell I am. Why? It would ruin the whole thing.

Only two more months and we will be in cover 5. That is the advanced defense that no person knows about yet. It consists of the corners backing of 13 yards and then anticipating the snap they rush forward and get about 2 yards from the receiver etc. The two safeties move sideways leaving the middle wide open. The LB that is selected moves into the middle to protect that area. This defense is put in to smash the offense and makes them step back. Usually this cover 5 is used on third down. This sneaky defense called cover 5 will be brought in this year. Remember not one person other than the coaches know about this so don't let it out.

Two months and you will see it in action!

 

[PlayerRep]

I don't know Thurman or know who he is. It's clear he knows what he's talking about and has more info than any poster on the board. It's a compliment to me that some of you associate him with me. He probably doesn't see it as a compliment, but I see it as validating much of what I post. I don't recall a single thing Thurman has ever said that don't agree with. I enjoy seeing some of the babies try to go at Thurman. Shows them as total dumb asses. Go Thurman.

 

[grizindabox]

 

[Ursa Major]

I don't know Thurman or know who he is. It's clear he knows what he's talking about and has more info than any poster on the board. It's a compliment to me that some of you associate him with me. He probably doesn't see it as a compliment, but I see it as validating much of what I post. I don't recall a single thing Thurman has ever said that don't agree with. I enjoy seeing some of the babies try to go at Thurman. Shows them as total dumb asses. Go Thurman.

That's some fine work there!!

Eddie Haskell

 

[Mursa Uajor]

I don't know Thurman or know who he is. It's clear he knows what he's talking about and has more info than any poster on the board. It's a compliment to me that some of you associate him with me. He probably doesn't see it as a compliment, but I see it as validating much of what I post. I don't recall a single thing Thurman has ever said that don't agree with. I enjoy seeing some of the babies try to go at Thurman. Shows them as total dumb asses. Go Thurman.

That's some fine work there!!

Eddie Haskell

+1

Ursa knows what he's talking about! I don't recall one thing that he has said that I disagree with!!!

 

[Grizbeer]

I would suggest that you do have at least one similarity with PR, a seeming lack of ability to take a joke about yourself or make self deprecating statements. Relax, this is egriz. We're all idiots for spending time here. Have a drink and have fun!

?? God damn it kid, are you f&cking with me?

 

[CV Griz Fan]

I don't know Thurman or know who he is. It's clear he knows what he's talking about and has more info than any poster on the board. It's a compliment to me that some of you associate him with me. He probably doesn't see it as a compliment, but I see it as validating much of what I post. I don't recall a single thing Thurman has ever said that don't agree with. I enjoy seeing some of the babies try to go at Thurman. Shows them as total dumb asses. Go Thurman.

That's some fine work there!!

Eddie Haskell

+1

Ursa knows what he's talking about! I don't recall one thing that he has said that I disagree with!!!

PR you're killing me! You either have some serious talent at creating an on-line character and are perpetrating one of the best "stunts" ever on E-Griz or you are a complete pompous ass ? Either way, you are entertaining as heck.

 

[Thurman Murman]

What kind of jackass creates an alternative identity on an anonymous message board to promote their original screen identity?

Hey Ursa. You seem to be well established here. How about you contact one of the mods and ask them to confirm that this is my only screen name and not linked to any other account? Or how about you search all of my posts and see for yourself that there is no pattern behind them in supporting one topic, player, or other poster? Of course that might prove your little theory wrong so I assume you will not do so. Doesn't being wrong suck?

Thurman,

1) How about you contact one of the mods and ask them to confirm that this is my only screen name and not linked to any other account?

Sincerely, I really don't care. It was a joke. If you care to look at my postings you will find most of them are with the rest of the jesters on the adult conversation thread.

2) Or how about you search all of my posts and see for yourself that there is no pattern behind them in supporting one topic, player, or other poster?

I have a life...

I would suggest that you do have at least one similarity with PR, a seeming lack of ability to take a joke about yourself or make self deprecating statements. Relax, this is egriz. We're all idiots for spending time here. Have a drink and have fun!

In closing, if you would like to make the point that you are not PR, you simply have to draw some differences of opinions with him. What has he said in his posts that are wrong, stupid and just plain insane? The man has thousands of posts so I'm sure you could find something to disagree with him (e.g. Beau Donaldson). Wouldn't this clear up the matter?

How's that for a little theory?

Sorry but I am not buying that it is a joke. You have tried to establish a link between me and PR in every one of your posts on this thread since I posted and continue to do so after this post. So if it is a joke you are one of those guys that likes to tell the same one over and over.

Nice to know you have a life. I do to. Which is why I will not be accepting your challenge of searching through tens of thousands of PRs posts to report to you what I do not agree with. I am sure there would be plenty I didn't agree with. If he claimed that Donaldson was not guilty than yes he is obviously wrong and there is your example. As I said, I have a life and I really do not follow the Egriz vs Pr thing. Look at my posts and you will see that almost all of them are occasional info reporting posts. I don't have the time to desire to be on egriz all the time like pr and some of you.

So you can continue to try to make your connection that you claim is a "joke", or you can realize that I only come to egriz to post the facts and only do so on occasion. I have followed the misinformation regarding the safeties for quite some time and decided to post about it. If you do not understand football and therefore disagree then go ahead and keep claiming I am someone else if that gets you going. I will simply keep doing what I do and report the facts when they come up.