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Could NAU run the table now?

Montana Gym Rat said:
Big Sky Tie-Breakers:
1) Head to Head
2) Common Conference Opponents
3) Common Conference Opponents played as Non-Conference Games
4) Common Non-Conference Opponents
5) Sagarin Ratings

A 4-way tie at 7-1 would come down to Sagarin ratings because the three common opponents are PSU, UND, and UCD - which all four would be 3-0 against.

Current Sagarin:
1) MSU - 5th
2) CP - 6th
3) EWU - 7th
4) NAU - 12th

What a mess ...
 
Just a reminder that CP vs EWU is a non-conference game...game was scheduled before CP joined the BSC.
 
Obzerver said:
Just a reminder that CP vs EWU is a non-conference game...game was scheduled before CP joined the BSC.

yep - was going to post the same thing.

NAU will have it's hands full with CPLSO - EWU and MSU will be keeping a close eye on the outcome of that game for sure.
 
msuhunter said:
Montana Gym Rat said:
Big Sky Tie-Breakers:
1) Head to Head
2) Common Conference Opponents
3) Common Conference Opponents played as Non-Conference Games
4) Common Non-Conference Opponents
5) Sagarin Ratings

A 4-way tie at 7-1 would come down to Sagarin ratings because the three common opponents are PSU, UND, and UCD - which all four would be 3-0 against.

Current Sagarin:
1) MSU - 5th
2) CP - 6th
3) EWU - 7th
4) NAU - 12th

What a mess ...


Ditto....and it gets more confusing as one tries to analyze it.


Since CP-EWU is non-conference, if NAU losses to Cal Poly and EWU, Cal Poly, and MSU win out their remaining conference schedules then all four would be 7-1 BSC.

HEAD-TO-HEAD
NAU:
- would be 0-1 head-to-head against the top 4 co-champs (assuming NAU < CP)

CP:
-could be 2-0 or 1-1, depending on result of CP-EWU

EWU:
-could be 2-0 or 1-1, depending on result of CP-EWU

MSU:
-is 0-1 (MSU < EWU)


NAU could just do everyone a favor and just win out. ;) Regardless, I think all four of these teams get into the playoffs as:

-Cal Poly already has 7 D-I wins (with FBS win)
-NAU just needs 1 of 3 (ISU, SUU, CP) to reach 7 D-I wins (with FBS win)
-EWU just needs 1 of 3 (CP, UC Davis, PSU) to reach 7 D-I wins (with FBS win)
-MSU just needs 1 of 3 (Sac State, PSU, UM) to reach 7 D-I wins

And Sac State just needs 1 of 2 (MSU, UC Davis) to reach 7 D-I wins (with FBS win), so they could be able to get in, as well.
 
DoubleNicks said:
Since CP-EWU is non-conference, if NAU losses to Cal Poly and EWU, Cal Poly, and MSU win out their remaining conference schedules then all four would be 7-1 BSC.

HEAD-TO-HEAD
NAU:
- would be 0-1 head-to-head against the top 4 co-champs (assuming NAU < CP)

CP:
-could be 2-0 or 1-1, depending on result of CP-EWU

EWU:
-could be 2-0 or 1-1, depending on result of CP-EWU

MSU:
-is 0-1 (MSU < EWU)

Whoops, forgot to make my point :lol: If that scenario happens, then it would come down to the CP-EWU result (a non-conf game :roll: ) that would determine head-to-head records and ultimately the BSC auto bid (which would probably help in getting a higher seed for one of these teams).
 
Seems to me the old (purported) Chinese curse is operative here: "May you live in interesting times." Boy, do we! :lol:

Feng shui, anyone? :?
 
With the Griz out of it, I just hope the Cats get a snub by the playoff selection committee. Sweet. FTC.
 
tourist said:
With the Griz out of it, I just hope the Cats get a snub by the playoff selection committee. Sweet. FTC.

If they drop the next two, which might happen, they are suddenly a bubble team. I would LMFAO if they got a playoff snub!!!! :lol:
 
Hammer said:
tourist said:
With the Griz out of it, I just hope the Cats get a snub by the playoff selection committee. Sweet. FTC.

If they drop the next two, which might happen, they are suddenly a bubble team. I would LMFAO if they got a playoff snub!!!! :lol:

you think we're gonna lose to sac and then psu at home? :o
 
ilovethecats said:
Hammer said:
tourist said:
With the Griz out of it, I just hope the Cats get a snub by the playoff selection committee. Sweet. FTC.

If they drop the next two, which might happen, they are suddenly a bubble team. I would LMFAO if they got a playoff snub!!!! :lol:

you think we're gonna lose to sac and then psu at home? :o


yep!
 
Hammer said:
ilovethecats said:
Hammer said:
tourist said:
With the Griz out of it, I just hope the Cats get a snub by the playoff selection committee. Sweet. FTC.

If they drop the next two, which might happen, they are suddenly a bubble team. I would LMFAO if they got a playoff snub!!!! :lol:

you think we're gonna lose to sac and then psu at home? :o


yep!


LMAO! :clap:

I hope so!! :lol:
 
Hammer said:
ilovethecats said:
Hammer said:
tourist said:
With the Griz out of it, I just hope the Cats get a snub by the playoff selection committee. Sweet. FTC.

If they drop the next two, which might happen, they are suddenly a bubble team. I would LMFAO if they got a playoff snub!!!! :lol:

you think we're gonna lose to sac and then psu at home? :o


yep!

wanna bet? :lol:
 
Montana Gym Rat said:
Big Sky Tie-Breakers:
1) Head to Head
2) Common Conference Opponents
3) Common Conference Opponents played as Non-Conference Games
4) Common Non-Conference Opponents
5) Sagarin Ratings

A 4-way tie at 7-1 would come down to Sagarin ratings because the three common opponents are PSU, UND, and UCD - which all four would be 3-0 against.

Current Sagarin:
1) MSU - 5th
2) CP - 6th
3) EWU - 7th
4) NAU - 12th

Except with a 4 way tie at 7-1, EWU would own the tie breaker over MSU via head to head, same with CP even though they aren't a conference game. Of course that's assuming we beat CP tomorrow, which I'd give us 55-45 odds. :?
 
DoubleNicks said:
DoubleNicks said:
Since CP-EWU is non-conference, if NAU losses to Cal Poly and EWU, Cal Poly, and MSU win out their remaining conference schedules then all four would be 7-1 BSC.

HEAD-TO-HEAD
NAU:
- would be 0-1 head-to-head against the top 4 co-champs (assuming NAU < CP)

CP:
-could be 2-0 or 1-1, depending on result of CP-EWU

EWU:
-could be 2-0 or 1-1, depending on result of CP-EWU

MSU:
-is 0-1 (MSU < EWU)

Whoops, forgot to make my point :lol: If that scenario happens, then it would come down to the CP-EWU result (a non-conf game :roll: ) that would determine head-to-head records and ultimately the BSC auto bid (which would probably help in getting a higher seed for one of these teams).

I need to learn to read through threads before posting. I get too excited. :lol: :oops: :D
 
Hammer said:
ilovethecats said:
Hammer said:
tourist said:
With the Griz out of it, I just hope the Cats get a snub by the playoff selection committee. Sweet. FTC.

If they drop the next two, which might happen, they are suddenly a bubble team. I would LMFAO if they got a playoff snub!!!! :lol:

you think we're gonna lose to sac and then psu at home? :o


yep!
Then you're delusional;)
 
Walkon79 said:
Hammer said:
ilovethecats said:
Hammer said:
If they drop the next two, which might happen, they are suddenly a bubble team. I would LMFAO if they got a playoff snub!!!! :lol:

you think we're gonna lose to sac and then psu at home? :o


yep!
Then you're delusional;)

Hopefully you didnt just now notice that hammer is delusional :lol: :lol:

he's been that way for years :thumb:
 
I interpreted it to mean that head-to-head applied for a two-way tie only.

For example, in a three-way tie - you could have two of the teams that played each other. So one would be 1-0, one 0-0, and the other 0-1. I don't think that is a fair way to break the tie for the 0-0 team.

Sounds like the Big Sky needs to further clarify their tiebreaker procedure...

http://bigskyconf.com/news/2012/10/25/FB_1025124525.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If you read the article, it sounds like they are talking about a two-way tie. (Keep mentioning a tie between Team A and Team B) I'm not sure they have explained what happens in a tie between more than two teams.
 
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