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Could Montana's Brady Gustafson Be the Next Carson Wentz?

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griz5700 said:
Bet anyone $300 Brady goes in the first 3 rounds. Easy $.

:lol:

Love Brady, love watching him sling the rock....but I'll take that bet for any amount of money. No way Griz QB Brady Gustafson goes in the first three rounds of the NFL draft. Much more likely he's a UDFA.
 
AZGrizFan said:
griz5700 said:
Bet anyone $300 Brady goes in the first 3 rounds. Easy $.

:lol:

Love Brady, love watching him sling the rock....but I'll take that bet for any amount of money. No way Griz QB Brady Gustafson goes in the first three rounds of the NFL draft. Much more likely he's a UDFA.

Do you also love watching him miss open receivers on swing passes, and overthrowing wide open receivers in the middle of the field?
 
Atlanta Griz1 said:
AZGrizFan said:
griz5700 said:
Bet anyone $300 Brady goes in the first 3 rounds. Easy $.

:lol:

Love Brady, love watching him sling the rock....but I'll take that bet for any amount of money. No way Griz QB Brady Gustafson goes in the first three rounds of the NFL draft. Much more likely he's a UDFA.

Do you also love watching him miss open receivers on swing passes, and overthrowing wide open receivers in the middle of the field?
You're not observant at all.

Brady throws VERY well over the middle and deep routes outside the hash marks.
He REALLY struggles on short routes outside the hash marks.
 
brewskis said:
Atlanta Griz1 said:
AZGrizFan said:
griz5700 said:
Bet anyone $300 Brady goes in the first 3 rounds. Easy $.

:lol:

Love Brady, love watching him sling the rock....but I'll take that bet for any amount of money. No way Griz QB Brady Gustafson goes in the first three rounds of the NFL draft. Much more likely he's a UDFA.

Do you also love watching him miss open receivers on swing passes, and overthrowing wide open receivers in the middle of the field?
You're not observant at all.

Brady throws VERY well over the middle and deep routes outside the hash marks.
He REALLY struggles on short routes outside the hash marks.

Yeah? 7 of his 9 interceptions were on deeper routes, most of them caused by overthrows.
 
The sad part is this is a poor reflection on NFL talent evaluators.

Some guy who has never thrown a pass in the NFL is called the greatest current player from North Dakota

The same site listed Kroy in Atlanta; I personally would have went with Carp who will kick field goals for a long time and have longest career of anyone to come out of Montana.

It is also reflective of the joke scumbags in Fargo who are dirty promoting boorish fan behavior, illegally paying athletes thumbing their nose at NCAA with fag faced smirks frustrated because no one knows or cares who they are.

Key is to not lower yourself to their level only give them icy glares when wearing Griz gear.
 
Atlanta Griz1 said:
brewskis said:
Atlanta Griz1 said:
AZGrizFan said:
:lol:

Love Brady, love watching him sling the rock....but I'll take that bet for any amount of money. No way Griz QB Brady Gustafson goes in the first three rounds of the NFL draft. Much more likely he's a UDFA.

Do you also love watching him miss open receivers on swing passes, and overthrowing wide open receivers in the middle of the field?
You're not observant at all.

Brady throws VERY well over the middle and deep routes outside the hash marks.
He REALLY struggles on short routes outside the hash marks.

Yeah? 7 of his 9 interceptions were on deeper routes, most of them caused by overthrows.
Ok show me some film with proof of that Atlanta. I'm curious. I watched the last game so I saw two picks that fit my description.
 
brewskis said:
Atlanta Griz1 said:
brewskis said:
Atlanta Griz1 said:
Do you also love watching him miss open receivers on swing passes, and overthrowing wide open receivers in the middle of the field?
You're not observant at all.

Brady throws VERY well over the middle and deep routes outside the hash marks.
He REALLY struggles on short routes outside the hash marks.

Yeah? 7 of his 9 interceptions were on deeper routes, most of them caused by overthrows.
Ok show me some film with proof of that Atlanta. I'm curious. I watched the last game so I saw two picks that fit my description.

Oh yeah, i'll just pull out the game films from my vast inventory. My comments were based strictly on memory. I may be off by an interception, but I remember several picks on 15-20 yard passes in the middle of the field, caused by high throws to open receivers. Anybody who understands QB play knows that over-throwing receivers down the field is a big problem, and is an interception waiting to happen. Brady has always had a problem in missing high, rather than short, which is the preferred miss to avoid interceptions.
 
Atlanta Griz1 said:
AZGrizFan said:
griz5700 said:
Bet anyone $300 Brady goes in the first 3 rounds. Easy $.

:lol:

Love Brady, love watching him sling the rock....but I'll take that bet for any amount of money. No way Griz QB Brady Gustafson goes in the first three rounds of the NFL draft. Much more likely he's a UDFA.

Do you also love watching him miss open receivers on swing passes, and overthrowing wide open receivers in the middle of the field?

In fact, those are some of the exact reasons WHY I think he ends up going the UDFA route instead of getting drafted, so I'm not sure what your point is. I've watched many, many NFL QB's making 7 figures do those exact same things....so, yeah, I do enjoy watching Brady play. For free. In a Griz uniform.
 
Atl, yes, you are correct that your memory is not accurate, but you are also correct that BG threw a number of picks over the middle as you mentioned. I believe all of his picks in the second game, 3? of them, were over the middle and long. He had been injured a bit against NDSU, and was having trouble stepping up and following through, so, at least as of after that game, the view of the coaches was that the injury had contributed to those picks. You may be correct that BG has more of his share of bad throws in that area than he should, even when not injured. I don't know.
 
AZGrizFan said:
Atlanta Griz1 said:
AZGrizFan said:
griz5700 said:
Bet anyone $300 Brady goes in the first 3 rounds. Easy $.

:lol:

Love Brady, love watching him sling the rock....but I'll take that bet for any amount of money. No way Griz QB Brady Gustafson goes in the first three rounds of the NFL draft. Much more likely he's a UDFA.

Do you also love watching him miss open receivers on swing passes, and overthrowing wide open receivers in the middle of the field?

In fact, those are some of the exact reasons WHY I think he ends up going the UDFA route instead of getting drafted, so I'm not sure what your point is. I've watched many, many NFL QB's making 7 figures do those exact same things....so, yeah, I do enjoy watching Brady play. For free. In a Griz uniform.

You are delusional if you think he has NFL skills. Keep enjoying his overthrows and 57% completion percentage, even though he should complete 70% because Stitt's offense features the bubble screen 15 times a game.
 
PlayerRep said:
Atl, yes, you are correct that your memory is not accurate, but you are also correct that BG threw a number of picks over the middle as you mentioned. I believe all of his picks in the second game, 3? of them, were over the middle and long. He had been injured a bit against NDSU, and was having trouble stepping up and following through, so, at least as of after that game, the view of the coaches was that the injury had contributed to those picks. You may be correct that BG has more of his share of bad throws in that area than he should, even when not injured. I don't know.

NFL QBs are taught to miss low rather than high. I would think that an offensive genius like Stitt teaches Brady the same. Whether he can do it or not is another matter.
 
Atlanta Griz1 said:
AZGrizFan said:
Atlanta Griz1 said:
AZGrizFan said:
:lol:

Love Brady, love watching him sling the rock....but I'll take that bet for any amount of money. No way Griz QB Brady Gustafson goes in the first three rounds of the NFL draft. Much more likely he's a UDFA.

Do you also love watching him miss open receivers on swing passes, and overthrowing wide open receivers in the middle of the field?

In fact, those are some of the exact reasons WHY I think he ends up going the UDFA route instead of getting drafted, so I'm not sure what your point is. I've watched many, many NFL QB's making 7 figures do those exact same things....so, yeah, I do enjoy watching Brady play. For free. In a Griz uniform.

You are delusional if you think he has NFL skills. Keep enjoying his overthrows and 57% completion percentage, even though he should complete 70% because Stitt's offense features the bubble screen 15 times a game.

Please show me where I said I believe he has NFL skills? I didn't, and I haven't. What I SAID (for those whose reading comprehension is lacking) is that he'd most likely go the UDFA route. That in no way implies he'll MAKE a team, or be on a roster, or be throwing passes in the NFL any time soon. I think his height, arm strength and 2016 season statistics will be enough to get him into a camp. After that, all bets are off.
 
Atlanta Griz1 said:
PlayerRep said:
Atl, yes, you are correct that your memory is not accurate, but you are also correct that BG threw a number of picks over the middle as you mentioned. I believe all of his picks in the second game, 3? of them, were over the middle and long. He had been injured a bit against NDSU, and was having trouble stepping up and following through, so, at least as of after that game, the view of the coaches was that the injury had contributed to those picks. You may be correct that BG has more of his share of bad throws in that area than he should, even when not injured. I don't know.

NFL QBs are taught to miss low rather than high. I would think that an offensive genius like Stitt teaches Brady the same. Whether he can do it or not is another matter.
Mid-season, when assessing the various QBs, I noted that the "stats' showed that Brady was overthrowing with consistency on long passes, and had dropped his distance passing average by more than 50% in completed passes, which told me that the coach was trying to avoid those long throws. The problem then was increased interceptions or flubs, not fewer.
 
Here are BG's stats. In just under 6.5 games, he threw 9 picks. 7 were in 2 games: CP and the 2d NDSU game. Excuding Liberty (got hurt in 2d q) and 2d NDSU, and the 2 CP picks, his stats actually look quite good. 454, 353, 266, 353, and 295 yards. A pretty good completion percentage. Only 2 picks. In the 4 better games, his efficiency ratings are: 135, 134, 164, and 142. The CP picks, or some of them, may be explainable by the injury. NDSU may be explainable by the fact that NDSU was a very good team, with a great defense, and they were coming after him hard. Granted, hee more than flinched, but he kept battling and throwing (and that led to more picks). I'm not saying this scenario is valid; I'm just offering it as a possible explanation.


#3 Brady Gustafson Comp-Att-Int Pct Yards TD Long Sack-Yds Effic
North Dakota State 30-55-1 54.5 434 3 62 2-14 135.19
Cal Poly 40-64-3 62.5 353 1 44 1-5 104.61
Liberty 7-13-0 53.8 54 0 12 0-0 88.74
Eastern Washington 20-34-0 58.8 266 1 45 0-0 134.25
Montana State 23-39-1 59.0 353 4 54 1-6 163.72
South Dakota State 24-39-0 61.5 295 2 62 2-9 142.00
North Dakota State 23-46-4 50.0 229 1 39 3-17 81.60
TOTALS 167-290-9 57.6 1984 12 62 9-51 122.50
 
PlayerRep said:
Here are BG's stats. In just under 6.5 games, he threw 9 picks. 7 were in 2 games: CP and the 2d NDSU game. Excuding Liberty (got hurt in 2d q) and 2d NDSU, and the 2 CP picks, his stats actually look quite good. 454, 353, 266, 353, and 295 yards. A pretty good completion percentage. Only 2 picks. In the 4 better games, his efficiency ratings are: 135, 134, 164, and 142. The CP picks, or some of them, may be explainable by the injury. NDSU may be explainable by the fact that NDSU was a very good team, with a great defense, and they were coming after him hard. Granted, hee more than flinched, but he kept battling and throwing (and that led to more picks). I'm not saying this scenario is valid; I'm just offering it as a possible explanation.


#3 Brady Gustafson Comp-Att-Int Pct Yards TD Long Sack-Yds Effic
North Dakota State 30-55-1 54.5 434 3 62 2-14 135.19
Cal Poly 40-64-3 62.5 353 1 44 1-5 104.61
Liberty 7-13-0 53.8 54 0 12 0-0 88.74
Eastern Washington 20-34-0 58.8 266 1 45 0-0 134.25
Montana State 23-39-1 59.0 353 4 54 1-6 163.72
South Dakota State 24-39-0 61.5 295 2 62 2-9 142.00
North Dakota State 23-46-4 50.0 229 1 39 3-17 81.60
TOTALS 167-290-9 57.6 1984 12 62 9-51 122.50

The injury happened AFTER the Cal Poly game....in the Liberty game.
 
AZGrizFan said:
PlayerRep said:
Here are BG's stats. In just under 6.5 games, he threw 9 picks. 7 were in 2 games: CP and the 2d NDSU game. Excuding Liberty (got hurt in 2d q) and 2d NDSU, and the 2 CP picks, his stats actually look quite good. 454, 353, 266, 353, and 295 yards. A pretty good completion percentage. Only 2 picks. In the 4 better games, his efficiency ratings are: 135, 134, 164, and 142. The CP picks, or some of them, may be explainable by the injury. NDSU may be explainable by the fact that NDSU was a very good team, with a great defense, and they were coming after him hard. Granted, hee more than flinched, but he kept battling and throwing (and that led to more picks). I'm not saying this scenario is valid; I'm just offering it as a possible explanation.


#3 Brady Gustafson Comp-Att-Int Pct Yards TD Long Sack-Yds Effic
North Dakota State 30-55-1 54.5 434 3 62 2-14 135.19
Cal Poly 40-64-3 62.5 353 1 44 1-5 104.61
Liberty 7-13-0 53.8 54 0 12 0-0 88.74
Eastern Washington 20-34-0 58.8 266 1 45 0-0 134.25
Montana State 23-39-1 59.0 353 4 54 1-6 163.72
South Dakota State 24-39-0 61.5 295 2 62 2-9 142.00
North Dakota State 23-46-4 50.0 229 1 39 3-17 81.60
TOTALS 167-290-9 57.6 1984 12 62 9-51 122.50

The injury happened AFTER the Cal Poly game....in the Liberty game.

Different injury. BG was injured in the NDSU game. I believe it was his ribs. After the CP game, and privately to various people and the qb club, Stitt said that some of the the bad throws involving the picks, and otherwise, probably resulted from BG not being able to comfortable step forward and follow through with his throws.
 
Yup, there was talk in the days leading up to Poly that BG might not even play in that game. PR is one hundred percent right. Brady had some beat up ribs and was having trouble breathing.
 
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