Consultant who helped elect Obama is working on recruitment for University of Montana — for free

[hokeyfine]

(Understandable, since many were passed along from grade to grade without really achieving competence in the grade-level material.)

I wouldn't want anything to do with anyone who supported Obama. The University can do without this input. UM is way too left wing as it is without this POS. That being said, a comment on the poor state of pre-college education, as IdaGriz01 has outlined.

This has been going on for at least for the last 50-60 years. "Social promotion" is what it used to be called, don't know what the PC police call it nowadays. To even suggest that a student can't hack it, and should repeat the grade level, would cost a teacher his/her job. Move the kid to the next level, and 'graduate' this under prepared joke onto the world. Look at the 'graduation rate' improvement experienced since the '50s. Smoke and mirrors by administrators of school districts, aided and abetted by school boards who do not do their jobs. Montana had a policy that as long as you graduated from high school, you could be admitted to any public college/university in Montana. 'Bonehead' college classes used to be rare. Evidently, the have become the norm. Sad.

What's left wing about it?

 

[statler & waldorf]

"Consultant who helped elect Obama..."
The consultant is left wing, hokeyfine.

 

[hokeyfine]

"Consultant who helped elect Obama..."
The consultant is left wing, hokeyfine.

No, you said the university is left wing as it is. So what's left wing about it?

 

[MTGRZ]

Left wing, right wing, who give a rip....Let's get the asses in the lecture seats before we start nit-picking a person's political leanings.

 

[Grizlaw]

"Consultant who helped elect Obama..."
The consultant is left wing, hokeyfine.

When you’re responsible for managing a large organization - whether it’s a university, or a publicly traded corporation, or something else - you have to be above this type of petty stuff. “I don’t want help from anyone who supported Obama” is how a child would react.

Good opportunities need to be taken for what they are. You can’t always control where an offer of help comes from, but passing it up because you don’t like the political beliefs of the one making the offer would be a serious mistake.

 

[statler & waldorf]

"Consultant who helped elect Obama..."
The consultant is left wing, hokeyfine.

No, you said the university is left wing as it is. So what's left wing about it?

You are looking for an argument. The left wing bias of UM instructors has been a know fact, at the very least a perception, for at least the last 50 years. I'm an alum, and have experienced UM for YEARS. You must be new to Montana, and it's history.

 

[GGNez]

"Consultant who helped elect Obama..."
The consultant is left wing, hokeyfine.

When you’re responsible for managing a large organization - whether it’s a university, or a publicly traded corporation, or something else - you have to be above this type of petty stuff. “I don’t want help from anyone who supported Obama” is how a child would react.

Good opportunities need to be taken for what they are. You can’t always control where an offer of help comes from, but passing it up because you don’t like the political beliefs of the one making the offer would be a serious mistake.

:clap:

This.

 

[BWahlberg]

"Consultant who helped elect Obama..."
The consultant is left wing, hokeyfine.

When you’re responsible for managing a large organization - whether it’s a university, or a publicly traded corporation, or something else - you have to be above this type of petty stuff. “I don’t want help from anyone who supported Obama” is how a child would react.

Good opportunities need to be taken for what they are. You can’t always control where an offer of help comes from, but passing it up because you don’t like the political beliefs of the one making the offer would be a serious mistake.

Agreed! If someone like Steve Schmidt offered to help in this fashion I'd be just as excited about it as well.

 

[polsongrizz]

I wouldn't want anything to do with anyone who supported Obama. The University can do without this input. UM is way too left wing as it is without this POS.

What a whiny cupcake bitch...

 

[MTGRZ]

"Consultant who helped elect Obama..."
The consultant is left wing, hokeyfine.

When you’re responsible for managing a large organization - whether it’s a university, or a publicly traded corporation, or something else - you have to be above this type of petty stuff. “I don’t want help from anyone who supported Obama” is how a child would react.

Good opportunities need to be taken for what they are. You can’t always control where an offer of help comes from, but passing it up because you don’t like the political beliefs of the one making the offer would be a serious mistake.

:clap:

 

[hokeyfine]

"Consultant who helped elect Obama..."
The consultant is left wing, hokeyfine.

No, you said the university is left wing as it is. So what's left wing about it?

You are looking for an argument. The left wing bias of UM instructors has been a know fact, at the very least a perception, for at least the last 50 years. I'm an alum, and have experienced UM for YEARS. You must be new to Montana, and it's history.

i went to um a long time ago, didn't graduate from there, never had any prof try to indoctrinate me into the left fraternity. im a part time researcher there now, don't see any "left wing" indoctrination going on.

 

[CatzWillRise]

You'd be surprised what what people consider "left wing indoctrination".

 

[bgbigdog]

You'd be surprised what what people consider "left wing indoctrination".

Only those living under rocks are surprised by anything today.

 

[Spanky2]

I graduated from UM many years ago and was fortunate to have many excellent professors. Many were left wing, I suppose, but not one tried to impose his views on me.
I also have first hand knowledge of the consultant and am of the view that we are fortunate to have him help. Kudos to Bodnar for asking Jim.
I think I understand some of the reasons why students haven’t been enrolling, but I don’t understand why so many leave after a short period of time.

 

[GrizLA]

"Consultant who helped elect Obama..."
The consultant is left wing, hokeyfine.

No, you said the university is left wing as it is. So what's left wing about it?

You are looking for an argument. The left wing bias of UM instructors has been a know fact, at the very least a perception, for at least the last 50 years. I'm an alum, and have experienced UM for YEARS. You must be new to Montana, and it's history.

Perception is a funny thing. It changes from person to person; for example, I percieve you to be somewhat of an idiot. Now, you can respond....

 

[Dutch Lane]

Statler, I went to the U in the 1980’s, it didn’t strike me as particularly right or left. I believe bill Mercer was the student gov. president and he’s a very conservative republican who was US atty for W Bush. If the U is left wing riddle me that. My sister was at the U in the early 70s and that time through my 10 year olds eyes struck me as mighty hippie, but I was ten and a country boy. I think your perception is colored by the lib in liberal arts. Perceptions in Montana are slow to change. I think the U was precieved as a liberal by the MSU crowd back in the 60s and 70s and the perception has never changed over time the cow college and the hippie school. Not everyone was a cowboy or a hippie. What was the division loyalties back in the 50s? What difference does it make if the guy worked for barrack? These marketing shops work for both sides. The guy is a U grad who is obviously a world class player his clients barrack and a bunch of national and multinational company’s. Again the guy is a U grad, who is doing this for free. This really seems not well thought out you called him a pos? He’s a u grad for for f***sakes. Help me out with your nomenclature what does left wing mean these days. With the end of the Cold War back in the 80s where did all the commie lefties go? Did they just die out did they not propagate their species? Did they go back to thenUSSR? No because it Russia now controlled by thugs and oligarchs, capitalists. So who is left in the world that is backing the lefties, Nicaragua? Really please help me out what is left wing about the U. You realize the Montana is one of the more conservative states in the country how can you back up your opinion or perception that it’s left wing. Throw out some empirical numbers or data if you can to show us if what you are believing is in fact accurate or just your unevolved world view......bet you can’t.

 

[bgbigdog]

News Flash... Most assume college professors are left-leaning, and that’s been the case for a long time. Doesn’t mean they are, just that anyone can make assumptions.

I too can’t recall a single college professor trying to “indictrinate” me, but there was that graduate student who did most of the teaching of “Moralities of Everyday Life” in my junior year. Let’s just say she raised some doubt for me.

 

[PlayerRep]

Liberals are increasing colleges; conservatives are decreasing. It's a fact, not just a perception.

"In the academy, liberals now outnumber conservatives by roughly 5 to 1."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/11/the-dramatic-shift-among-college-professors-thats-hurting-students-education/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d04c1315ec34

 

[hokeyfine]

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/opinion/sunday/college-doesnt-make-you-liberal.html

 

[AllWeatherFan]

Who "indoctrinates" more people: college campuses or Fox news?