COACH STITT SHOW TONITE

[HookedonGriz]

Think about this, if Simis struggles against the Vikes, who I believe, are the most complete team in the Big Sky, Egriz will bury Simis and Stitt faster than a speeding bullet. And at LEAST one thread postgame will be dedicated too, "If Brady could play than why didn't Stitt put him in?" I'm just saying.

You lost me at "Don't be like Griz Fans, Northern". That awful generalization now gives you no credibility in my eyes, sorry. I used to like your posts prior to that coming out. Now I can't take anything you say seriously. Sorry but it's the truth.

 

[signedbewildered]

I don't want Simis to struggle either, but it is his second start of his life, on the road, against a more complete defense than the one he saw last week. The potential for things to difficult is much higher in my opinion. But, you're wrong, some on Egriz will, at the very least, crush Stitt for A. not starting Brady if he was healthy enough to start, or B. Not somehow figuring out how to play Simis more earlier in the season so that he would have been more experienced. Those sentiments would be from many of the same posters who are saying it would be madness to start Brady over Simis now. Point is, with some fans, nothing a coach does is ever right.

You are right about that. Stitt will be crucified by some here about any decision that may have contributed to a loss. I just think he is safer to stay with what is working (if it does again) than to switch things up. Brady isn't exactly a veteran either.

 

[George Ferguson]

bewildered, I agree, I have no reservations about Simis starting this week. And, I think he can do very well. Unfortunately, if he doesn't, I just hate what comes next.

 

[Fahque]

I don't want Simis to struggle either, but it is his second start of his life, on the road, against a more complete defense than the one he saw last week. The potential for things to difficult is much higher in my opinion. But, you're wrong, some on Egriz will, at the very least, crush Stitt for A. not starting Brady if he was healthy enough to start, or B. Not somehow figuring out how to play Simis more earlier in the season so that he would have been more experienced. Those sentiments would be from many of the same posters who are saying it would be madness to start Brady over Simis now. Point is, with some fans, nothing a coach does is ever right.

You are right about that. Stitt will be crucified by some here about any decision that may have contributed to a loss. I just think he is safer to stay with what is working (if it does again) than to switch things up. Brady isn't exactly a veteran either.

I think the only thing Stitt will be crucified over if we lose is if he pulls some of the same boneheaded stuff he did in previous losses that directly lead to another loss. Who ends up being the best QB isn't one IMO as we all know or at least should know the situation there

 

[mtgrizrule]

On the bright side this QB debate is a positive because each QB has shown vast potential in 1 game each. Both have proven able to move the ball. The difference being more scoring consistency coming form Simis, but his sample size is considerably less. In my opinion, this debate is a great sign for this year. Also, with Pflug and Jensen waiting in the wings, the QB spot appears to be in great hands the next 5 to 6 years.

 

[AZGrizFan]

Think about this, if Simis struggles against the Vikes, who I believe, are the most complete team in the Big Sky, Egriz will bury Simis and Stitt faster than a speeding bullet. And at LEAST one thread postgame will be dedicated too, "If Brady could play than why didn't Stitt put him in?" I'm just saying.

But of course. Monday morning quarterbacking is what eGriz does.

 

[grizindabox]

I don't want Simis to struggle either, but it is his second start of his life, on the road, against a more complete defense than the one he saw last week. The potential for things to difficult is much higher in my opinion. But, you're wrong, some on Egriz will, at the very least, crush Stitt for A. not starting Brady if he was healthy enough to start, or B. Not somehow figuring out how to play Simis more earlier in the season so that he would have been more experienced. Those sentiments would be from many of the same posters who are saying it would be madness to start Brady over Simis now. Point is, with some fans, nothing a coach does is ever right.

hav...who fucking cares what egriz thinks....

Also, I think it is pretty simple...if Simis rocks it, you have to think about starting him again...anything else, easy call to start Gus....

 

[grizindabox]

bewildered, I agree, I have no reservations about Simis starting this week. And, I think he can do very well. Unfortunately, if he doesn't, I just hate what comes next.

you pulling the "I told you so" thread....

I think you underestimate most...people are hoping Simis plays great...but most understand there is a pretty good chance he could struggle...

 

[UMGriz75]

I think you underestimate most...people are hoping Simis plays great...but most understand there is a pretty good chance he could struggle...

Well, PSU has the game video that pretty clearly shows the simplified offensive scheme that worked so well for Makena. The problem is, UND didn't really make any mistakes on their coverage, they simply got outplayed at those positions by Ellis, Jamal, and Ben. It wasn't a "scheme" or coaching problem, it is a talent problem for which the QB strategy is not the key part if he can throw in the first place, which Makena demonstrated superbly that he can do. Does PSU have that kind of talent to cover those guys? I don't think they do.

 

[Ursus1]

seems to me we have two players who each had ONE REALLY GOOD GAME (remember Gus wasn't stellar while was not stellar while in at Liberty). Until one can back up a good game with others, I really don't seen either being the outright #1. If Simis struggles this weekend, doesn't mean Gus wouldn't have as well. I think many fans are so hungry for a great QB, they were/are willing to put a player in the hall of fame after one game. That being said, the PSU game is HUGE!!! For Stitt, the team, playoff chances, and Simis spot at #1. Playing a quality conference team on the road will tell us a lot about the current Griz program status

 

[grizfnz]

I don't want Simis to struggle either, but it is his second start of his life, on the road, against a more complete defense than the one he saw last week. The potential for things to difficult is much higher in my opinion. But, you're wrong, some on Egriz will, at the very least, crush Stitt for A. not starting Brady if he was healthy enough to start, or B. Not somehow figuring out how to play Simis more earlier in the season so that he would have been more experienced. Those sentiments would be from many of the same posters who are saying it would be madness to start Brady over Simis now. Point is, with some fans, nothing a coach does is ever right.

Do you really think Simis 2nd start of his life, on the road could turn out as bad or worse than Brady's 2nd start of his life, 3 pick performance at HOME against Cal Poly?

 

[UMGriz75]

seems to me we have two players who each had ONE REALLY GOOD GAME (remember Gus wasn't stellar while was not stellar while in at Liberty).

I've gone back and watched that game twice. Gus was hitting 55%, and the ones he was consistently missing were the long balls on overthrows which is why his average throw was only 14 yards, and, as the announcers mentioned several times, "miscommunications" between him and the receivers on the shorter routes. You could see the frustration on Ellis' and Jamal's faces. There were many mistakes.

When Gus connected, with those powerful throws, it was a magnificent sight, but to call it a REALLY GOOD GAME for Gus is just not the case. The fact is, a 14 yard average and 55% passing success is not a REALLY GOOD GAME. It just isn't. There is something to be said for pounding out a lot of them -- that strategy won that game -- but that goes to the number of plays, not the QB skill.

What it did suggest is a good QB with a lot of higher potential, because there were many mistakes to fix, and fixable but on top of a good performance when that performance was, in fact, "good" for a "first start." Had he been a seasoned QB, there would have been concerns, despite the win, and this became apparent in the subsequent outings. I think people were able to look more objectively at Brady when the Griz lost, I don't think he got "worse" I just don't think he was improving with Stitt's scheme.

In contrast, Makena made few mistakes. A 20 yard average and a 70% pass success rate is, in fact, a REALLY GOOD GAME. The long balls were superb. There were few "miscommunications." On the other hand, the simplified strategy reduced the possibility of "miscommunications," suggesting that the more complicated Stitt strategy was, in fact, something Brady and the receivers were not adjusting to very well. Somewhere between the QB and the simplified strategy, the whole world opened up for the receivers and they did an extraordinary job with the opportunities presented.

But the key difference in comparing the two games was that Makena could consistently put the ball right on top of the receivers on long balls, whereas Brady could not and had to rely more heavily on shorter routes, hence the 20 yard vs 14 yard statistic, and the 70% vs 55% rates.

 

[NorthEndZoneDan]

I think you underestimate most...people are hoping Simis plays great...but most understand there is a pretty good chance he could struggle...

Well, PSU has the game video that pretty clearly shows the simplified offensive scheme that worked so well for Makena. The problem is, UND didn't really make any mistakes on their coverage, they simply got outplayed at those positions by Ellis, Jamal, and Ben. It wasn't a "scheme" or coaching problem, it is a talent problem for which the QB strategy is not the key part if he can throw in the first place, which Makena demonstrated superbly that he can do. Does PSU have that kind of talent to cover those guys? I don't think they do.

I agree that UND didnt have the talent to stay with Ellis, Jamal, and Ben. A good question for this game is #8, FS Onwuasor who is a big human and plays physical. Fortunately PSU has only one guy that might be able to contain the Three.

 

[horribilisfan8184]

You could see it in the receivers they believe in Simis 100%. When they are open he gets them the ball. When they are in tight one-on-one coverage he gets them a catchable ball. I hope the kid doesn't feel he has to equal or top this performance with every game. The guys were obviously having fun on offense Saturday and I hope that's their goal again this week.

 

[Spanky]

With the skills of our receivers, all we need is the so-called simplified strategy.

 

[bgbigdog]

seems to me we have two players who each had ONE REALLY GOOD GAME (remember Gus wasn't stellar while was not stellar while in at Liberty).

I've gone back and watched that game twice. Gus was hitting 55%, and the ones he was consistently missing were the long balls on overthrows which is why his average throw was only 14 yards, and, as the announcers mentioned several times, "miscommunications" between him and the receivers on the shorter routes. You could see the frustration on Ellis' and Jamal's faces. There were many mistakes.

When Gus connected, with those powerful throws, it was a magnificent sight, but to call it a REALLY GOOD GAME for Gus is just not the case. The fact is, a 14 yard average and 55% passing success is not a REALLY GOOD GAME. It just isn't. There is something to be said for pounding out a lot of them -- that strategy won that game -- but that goes to the number of plays, not the QB skill.

What it did suggest is a good QB with a lot of higher potential, because there were many mistakes to fix, and fixable but on top of a good performance when that performance was, in fact, "good" for a "first start." Had he been a seasoned QB, there would have been concerns, despite the win, and this became apparent in the subsequent outings. I think people were able to look more objectively at Brady when the Griz lost, I don't think he got "worse" I just don't think he was improving with Stitt's scheme.

In contrast, Makena made few mistakes. A 20 yard average and a 70% pass success rate is, in fact, a REALLY GOOD GAME. The long balls were superb. There were few "miscommunications." On the other hand, the simplified strategy reduced the possibility of "miscommunications," suggesting that the more complicated Stitt strategy was, in fact, something Brady and the receivers were not adjusting to very well. Somewhere between the QB and the simplified strategy, the whole world opened up for the receivers and they did an extraordinary job with the opportunities presented.

But the key difference in comparing the two games was that Makena could consistently put the ball right on top of the receivers on long balls, whereas Brady could not and had to rely more heavily on shorter routes, hence the 20 yard vs 14 yard statistic, and the 70% vs 55% rates.

Brady is @ the earliest opportunity to return from a serious injury. He was good in game one, struggled significantly in both losses. How does he get pushed in front of anyone @ this juncture? No responsible coach would make that call. We're ten weeks in, including fall camp. Nothing is static, kids learn and grow, even if it comes in trial by fire like it was for Chalich and now Simis, that's why they're on scholarship. Stitt may be stubborn, but not stupid. He'll go with his best chance to win.

 

[NLGrizFan]

Simis wins, Simis starts against ISU. Until Simis plays below Brady's level Simis will start the rest of the season. Brady had one good game. Simis had a game that went into the record books. It's Simis's job to lose at this point.

 

[grizindabox]

Simis wins, Simis starts against ISU. Until Simis plays below Brady's level Simis will start the rest of the season. Brady had one good game. Simis had a game that went into the record books. It's Simis's job to lose at this point.

So if the Griz win 14-10 and Simis plays awful, you think Simis should start at ISU?

 

[AZGrizFan]

Simis wins, Simis starts against ISU. Until Simis plays below Brady's level Simis will start the rest of the season. Brady had one good game. Simis had a game that went into the record books. It's Simis's job to lose at this point.

So if the Griz win 14-10 and Simis plays awful, you think Simis should start at ISU?

Well that would be one more win than Gus had while playing awful.

 

[AZGrizFan]

In contrast, Makena made few mistakes. A 20 yard average and a 70% pass success rate is, in fact, a REALLY GOOD GAME. The long balls were superb. There were few "miscommunications." On the other hand, the simplified strategy reduced the possibility of "miscommunications," suggesting that the more complicated Stitt strategy was, in fact, something Brady and the receivers were not adjusting to very well. Somewhere between the QB and the simplified strategy, the whole world opened up for the receivers and they did an extraordinary job with the opportunities presented.

But the key difference in comparing the two games was that Makena could consistently put the ball right on top of the receivers on long balls, whereas Brady could not and had to rely more heavily on shorter routes, hence the 20 yard vs 14 yard statistic, and the 70% vs 55% rates.

I WOULD be curious to see how Brady would perform in the "simplified" strategy....although I still believe that Simis has a much higher upside potential, especially given what he brings to the table from a running (or threat to run) perspective.