Central Ty Gregorak discussion thread

[grzz]

My apologies if this was posted elsewhere, but I haven't seen it. Q & A between Colter and Ty from yesterday.

http://skylinesportsmt.com/q-a-gregorak-on-msu/

I like Colter a lot, I think he covers the Big Sky well and frankly I am jealous of all the content he puts out on the Cats and I hope his efforts to expand his Griz coverage are successful.

If there is a critique of his work, I think it is that he occasionally is prone to hyperbole and occasionally he treats the opinion of his sources as the standard of FCSs football knowledge when it is just one opinion. An example of this was during the coaching search last year. His biggest ties to the program source wise seem to be from the Hauck/O'Day era and sometimes that opinion line comes through.

I like Ty, I think this is a great hire for the Cats, and no one can argue that the position he has been most responsible for during his time here has been a huge strength of the program. To say he built the defense is a stretch to me though. He took over a highly ranked defense and maintained a high level that never got quite to where it was when Breske left. Th himself said our D has been good, not great.

I think it was time for him to move on because he needs to diversify his resume a bit if he wants to advance to the FBS level like he has said in one of his interviews. The truth is I don't think this is a game changer for either program that some fans on both sides are suggesting. I think Ty improves the Cats defense and I think Stitt is more than capable of hiring good assistants to get this program where we all want it to be.

I think when Ty didn't get the job, him leaving after this season was probably more likely than anyone admitted at the time and I don't think that is as big of a deal as some have made it. If Ty doesn't like Stitt, that is fine too. There is more than one style to build a successful football team, they don't have to agree. I don't buy the line that this was all about Ty wanting to work for Choate, and anyone who thinks that Choate has better college football coaching connections than Stitt is willfully ignoring the number of FBS coaches who talk publically about their respect for Stitt and their work sessions with him. Heck, the Minnesota Vikings came to UM this summer to brain storm with him.

I think there is still some angst because he came from outside the Griz family tree, and the only way he can convince those fans is to win. I hope he is successful.

 

[MsMaroon]

My apologies if this was posted elsewhere, but I haven't seen it. Q & A between Colter and Ty from yesterday.

http://skylinesportsmt.com/q-a-gregorak-on-msu/

I like Colter a lot, I think he covers the Big Sky well and frankly I am jealous of all the content he puts out on the Cats and I hope his efforts to expand his Griz coverage are successful.

If there is a critique of his work, I think it is that he occasionally is prone to hyperbole and occasionally he treats the opinion of his sources as the standard of FCSs football knowledge when it is just one opinion. An example of this was during the coaching search last year. His biggest ties to the program source wise seem to be from the Hauck/O'Day era and sometimes that opinion line comes through.

I like Ty, I think this is a great hire for the Cats, and no one can argue that the position he has been most responsible for during his time here has been a huge strength of the program. To say he built the defense is a stretch to me though. He took over a highly ranked defense and maintained a high level that never got quite to where it was when Breske left. Th himself said our D has been good, not great.

I think it was time for him to move on because he needs to diversify his resume a bit if he wants to advance to the FBS level like he has said in one of his interviews. The truth is I don't think this is a game changer for either program that some fans on both sides are suggesting. I think Ty improves the Cats defense and I think Stitt is more than capable of hiring good assistants to get this program where we all want it to be.

I think when Ty didn't get the job, him leaving after this season was probably more likely than anyone admitted at the time and I don't think that is as big of a deal as some have made it. If Ty doesn't like Stitt, that is fine too. There is more than one style to build a successful football team, they don't have to agree. I don't buy the line that this was all about Ty wanting to work for Choate, and anyone who thinks that Choate has better college football coaching connections than Stitt is willfully ignoring the number of FBS coaches who talk publically about their respect for Stitt and their work sessions with him. Heck, the Minnesota Vikings came to UM this summer to brain storm with him.

I think there is still some angst because he came from outside the Griz family tree, and the only way he can convince those fans is to win. I hope he is successful.

Well said. And rational.

Emotionally, I'm thrilled Kent didn't hire Ty last year. A head coach who - in other circumstances - would leave this program in a heartbeat . . . for the cats?? :shock: Despite everything I've read and heard - I am still simply stunned.

I do agree that both programs got better when Coach Gregorak made his decision.

 

[EastCoastGriz]

Now, all he has to do is deliver the same speech and change the name from Cats to griz, and he's set. In coach world, you always love your currently lover...until the breakup and then is on to the next one. He's now in love with the Cats! I'll bet you don't see him sporting anymore griz gear because now he's blue and gold baby!

Brilliant carsrback. Really stepping out there with that bet!

 

[PlayerRep]

My apologies if this was posted elsewhere, but I haven't seen it. Q & A between Colter and Ty from yesterday.

http://skylinesportsmt.com/q-a-gregorak-on-msu/

I like Colter a lot, I think he covers the Big Sky well and frankly I am jealous of all the content he puts out on the Cats and I hope his efforts to expand his Griz coverage are successful.

If there is a critique of his work, I think it is that he occasionally is prone to hyperbole and occasionally he treats the opinion of his sources as the standard of FCSs football knowledge when it is just one opinion. An example of this was during the coaching search last year. His biggest ties to the program source wise seem to be from the Hauck/O'Day era and sometimes that opinion line comes through.

I like Ty, I think this is a great hire for the Cats, and no one can argue that the position he has been most responsible for during his time here has been a huge strength of the program. To say he built the defense is a stretch to me though. He took over a highly ranked defense and maintained a high level that never got quite to where it was when Breske left. Th himself said our D has been good, not great.

I think it was time for him to move on because he needs to diversify his resume a bit if he wants to advance to the FBS level like he has said in one of his interviews. The truth is I don't think this is a game changer for either program that some fans on both sides are suggesting. I think Ty improves the Cats defense and I think Stitt is more than capable of hiring good assistants to get this program where we all want it to be.

I think when Ty didn't get the job, him leaving after this season was probably more likely than anyone admitted at the time and I don't think that is as big of a deal as some have made it. If Ty doesn't like Stitt, that is fine too. There is more than one style to build a successful football team, they don't have to agree. I don't buy the line that this was all about Ty wanting to work for Choate, and anyone who thinks that Choate has better college football coaching connections than Stitt is willfully ignoring the number of FBS coaches who talk publically about their respect for Stitt and their work sessions with him. Heck, the Minnesota Vikings came to UM this summer to brain storm with him.

I think there is still some angst because he came from outside the Griz family tree, and the only way he can convince those fans is to win. I hope he is successful.

Well said. And rational.

Emotionally, I'm thrilled Kent didn't hire Ty last year. A head coach who - in other circumstances - would leave this program in a heartbeat . . . for the cats?? :shock: Despite everything I've read and heard - I am still simply stunned.

I do agree that both programs got better when Coach Gregorak made his decision.

We'll see how the Griz D performs next year. This confirms why I voted for Eriul as best female poster.

 

[grizindabox]

My apologies if this was posted elsewhere, but I haven't seen it. Q & A between Colter and Ty from yesterday.

http://skylinesportsmt.com/q-a-gregorak-on-msu/

I like Colter a lot, I think he covers the Big Sky well and frankly I am jealous of all the content he puts out on the Cats and I hope his efforts to expand his Griz coverage are successful.

If there is a critique of his work, I think it is that he occasionally is prone to hyperbole and occasionally he treats the opinion of his sources as the standard of FCSs football knowledge when it is just one opinion. An example of this was during the coaching search last year. His biggest ties to the program source wise seem to be from the Hauck/O'Day era and sometimes that opinion line comes through.

I like Ty, I think this is a great hire for the Cats, and no one can argue that the position he has been most responsible for during his time here has been a huge strength of the program. To say he built the defense is a stretch to me though. He took over a highly ranked defense and maintained a high level that never got quite to where it was when Breske left. Th himself said our D has been good, not great.

I think it was time for him to move on because he needs to diversify his resume a bit if he wants to advance to the FBS level like he has said in one of his interviews. The truth is I don't think this is a game changer for either program that some fans on both sides are suggesting. I think Ty improves the Cats defense and I think Stitt is more than capable of hiring good assistants to get this program where we all want it to be.

I think when Ty didn't get the job, him leaving after this season was probably more likely than anyone admitted at the time and I don't think that is as big of a deal as some have made it. If Ty doesn't like Stitt, that is fine too. There is more than one style to build a successful football team, they don't have to agree. I don't buy the line that this was all about Ty wanting to work for Choate, and anyone who thinks that Choate has better college football coaching connections than Stitt is willfully ignoring the number of FBS coaches who talk publically about their respect for Stitt and their work sessions with him. Heck, the Minnesota Vikings came to UM this summer to brain storm with him.

I think there is still some angst because he came from outside the Griz family tree, and the only way he can convince those fans is to win. I hope he is successful.

Well said. And rational.

Emotionally, I'm thrilled Kent didn't hire Ty last year. A head coach who - in other circumstances - would leave this program in a heartbeat . . . for the cats?? :shock: Despite everything I've read and heard - I am still simply stunned.

I do agree that both programs got better when Coach Gregorak made his decision.

We'll see how the Griz D performs next year. This confirms why I voted for Eriul as best female poster.

And this will relate to TG how exactly.....

 

[MsMaroon]

We'll see how the Griz D performs next year. This confirms why I voted for Eriul as best female poster.

Gee. I didn't know qualifications included always agreeing with you. I guess "female" posters aren't entitled to their own opinions. What in the world would any of us know about football??

Without your approval, PR, I don't know how I can go on . . .

 

[PlayerRep]

We'll see how the Griz D performs next year. This confirms why I voted for Eriul as best female poster.

Gee. I didn't know qualifications included always agreeing with you. I guess "female" posters aren't entitled to their own opinions. What in the world would any of us know about football??

Without your approval, PR, I don't know how I can go on . . .

A bit touchy there, Maroon? Feel free to point out anything in my post says that I think you need to agree with me, female posters aren't entitled to their opinions, or that you need my approval. Just because I don't agree with your opinion and like Eriul as a poster, doesn't mean any of the things you said.

 

[PlayerRep]

I like Colter a lot, I think he covers the Big Sky well and frankly I am jealous of all the content he puts out on the Cats and I hope his efforts to expand his Griz coverage are successful.

If there is a critique of his work, I think it is that he occasionally is prone to hyperbole and occasionally he treats the opinion of his sources as the standard of FCSs football knowledge when it is just one opinion. An example of this was during the coaching search last year. His biggest ties to the program source wise seem to be from the Hauck/O'Day era and sometimes that opinion line comes through.

I like Ty, I think this is a great hire for the Cats, and no one can argue that the position he has been most responsible for during his time here has been a huge strength of the program. To say he built the defense is a stretch to me though. He took over a highly ranked defense and maintained a high level that never got quite to where it was when Breske left. Th himself said our D has been good, not great.

I think it was time for him to move on because he needs to diversify his resume a bit if he wants to advance to the FBS level like he has said in one of his interviews. The truth is I don't think this is a game changer for either program that some fans on both sides are suggesting. I think Ty improves the Cats defense and I think Stitt is more than capable of hiring good assistants to get this program where we all want it to be.

I think when Ty didn't get the job, him leaving after this season was probably more likely than anyone admitted at the time and I don't think that is as big of a deal as some have made it. If Ty doesn't like Stitt, that is fine too. There is more than one style to build a successful football team, they don't have to agree. I don't buy the line that this was all about Ty wanting to work for Choate, and anyone who thinks that Choate has better college football coaching connections than Stitt is willfully ignoring the number of FBS coaches who talk publically about their respect for Stitt and their work sessions with him. Heck, the Minnesota Vikings came to UM this summer to brain storm with him.

I think there is still some angst because he came from outside the Griz family tree, and the only way he can convince those fans is to win. I hope he is successful.

Well said. And rational.

Emotionally, I'm thrilled Kent didn't hire Ty last year. A head coach who - in other circumstances - would leave this program in a heartbeat . . . for the cats?? :shock: Despite everything I've read and heard - I am still simply stunned.

I do agree that both programs got better when Coach Gregorak made his decision.

We'll see how the Griz D performs next year. This confirms why I voted for Eriul as best female poster.

And this will relate to TG how exactly.....

Surprised you wouldn't be able to figure out the TG connection, as he was the DC this year and won't be next year. My concern is that the D won't be as good next year as it otherwise would have been had he been here. We'll see.

 

[Fushiznitz]

Well said. And rational.

Emotionally, I'm thrilled Kent didn't hire Ty last year. A head coach who - in other circumstances - would leave this program in a heartbeat . . . for the cats?? :shock: Despite everything I've read and heard - I am still simply stunned.

I do agree that both programs got better when Coach Gregorak made his decision.

We'll see how the Griz D performs next year. This confirms why I voted for Eriul as best female poster.

And this will relate to TG how exactly.....

Surprised you wouldn't be able to figure out the TG connection, as he was the DC this year and won't be next year. My concern is that the D won't be as good next year as it otherwise would have been had he been here. We'll see.

Uh, no. No we won't.

 

[grizindabox]

Well said. And rational.

Emotionally, I'm thrilled Kent didn't hire Ty last year. A head coach who - in other circumstances - would leave this program in a heartbeat . . . for the cats?? :shock: Despite everything I've read and heard - I am still simply stunned.

I do agree that both programs got better when Coach Gregorak made his decision.

We'll see how the Griz D performs next year. This confirms why I voted for Eriul as best female poster.

And this will relate to TG how exactly.....

Surprised you wouldn't be able to figure out the TG connection, as he was the DC this year and won't be next year. My concern is that the D won't be as good next year as it otherwise would have been had he been here. We'll see.

My point...you can't compare next year's defensive performance with this year's performance for a multitude of reasons and then say it would have been better or worse if TG was the coordinator....that is just stupid....

 

[MsMaroon]

We'll see how the Griz D performs next year. This confirms why I voted for Eriul as best female poster.

Gee. I didn't know qualifications included always agreeing with you. I guess "female" posters aren't entitled to their own opinions. What in the world would any of us know about football??

Without your approval, PR, I don't know how I can go on . . .

A bit touchy there, Maroon? Feel free to point out anything in my post says that I think you need to agree with me, female posters aren't entitled to their opinions, or that you need my approval. Just because I don't agree with your opinion and like Eriul as a poster, doesn't mean any of the things you said.

That's MS Maroon to you, Rep.

 

[PlayerRep]

We'll see how the Griz D performs next year. This confirms why I voted for Eriul as best female poster.

And this will relate to TG how exactly.....

Surprised you wouldn't be able to figure out the TG connection, as he was the DC this year and won't be next year. My concern is that the D won't be as good next year as it otherwise would have been had he been here. We'll see.

My point...you can't compare next year's defensive performance with this year's performance for a multitude of reasons and then say it would have been better or worse if TG was the coordinator....that is just stupid....

Sure I can. l and everyone will make that comparison. However, what I actually said wasvthat I was concerned that the D wouldn't be as good next year as it would have been with TG. You can kick and scream and argue all you want, but that won't mean that anything you say is correct. It looks like you are already making excuses for a worse D next year.

 

[reinell30]

I believe our "D" in 2016 will be the best Defense we have had in over 10 years. Coach Stitt was hired to run the Grizzly football program and the defense is his responsibility as well. He is making decisions he needs to make to ensure he keeps his job. If for some reason it all fails, he only has himself to blame. Ty did a good job, end of story!
We as Griz fans should hope for the best for him as he try to succeed elsewhere. Hoping for a Griz person, coach or fan to not succeed elsewhere, makes you a hypocrite and maybe you should become a Bobcat fan!
Go Griz!

 

[grizindabox]

And this will relate to TG how exactly.....

Surprised you wouldn't be able to figure out the TG connection, as he was the DC this year and won't be next year. My concern is that the D won't be as good next year as it otherwise would have been had he been here. We'll see.

My point...you can't compare next year's defensive performance with this year's performance for a multitude of reasons and then say it would have been better or worse if TG was the coordinator....that is just stupid....

Sure I can. l and everyone will make that comparison. However, what I actually said wasvthat I was concerned that the D wouldn't be as good next year as it would have been with TG. You can kick and scream and argue all you want, but that won't mean that anything you say is correct. It looks like you are already making excuses for a worse D next year.

which is something that could never be proved....

There are many reasons that the defense could be worse next year.....new starters....younger starters....different starters....playing against better offenses.....

The reasons the defense could be worse out number the reasons the defense could be better.....

No excuses here.....just reality....but to pinpoint that the defense will be worse just because of TG is a poor assumption....

 

[daGrizJ]

I believe, if you were to ask griz75, he would tell you your assumption was teleological.

 

[Grizzoola]

My point...you can't compare next year's defensive performance with this year's performance for a multitude of reasons and then say it would have been better or worse if TG was the coordinator....that is just stupid....

Sure I can. l and everyone will make that comparison. However, what I actually said wasvthat I was concerned that the D wouldn't be as good next year as it would have been with TG. You can kick and scream and argue all you want, but that won't mean that anything you say is correct. It looks like you are already making excuses for a worse D next year.

PR, please list the reasons the Griz D won't be as good next year with TG gone.

 

[stubbins]

And this will relate to TG how exactly.....

Surprised you wouldn't be able to figure out the TG connection, as he was the DC this year and won't be next year. My concern is that the D won't be as good next year as it otherwise would have been had he been here. We'll see.

My point...you can't compare next year's defensive performance with this year's performance for a multitude of reasons and then say it would have been better or worse if TG was the coordinator....that is just stupid....

Sure I can. l and everyone will make that comparison. However, what I actually said wasvthat I was concerned that the D wouldn't be as good next year as it would have been with TG. You can kick and scream and argue all you want, but that won't mean that anything you say is correct. It looks like you are already making excuses for a worse D next year.

The D won't be as good next year as this year, but it will have nothing to do with the DC...the real test will be the following year, when the new DC will start the season with a pretty cohesive unit.

Ty's gone, big whoop...not a big loss. The bigger loss is when Ty took over for Breske...That one stung. And the numbers reflect that.

 

[PlayerRep]

Surprised you wouldn't be able to figure out the TG connection, as he was the DC this year and won't be next year. My concern is that the D won't be as good next year as it otherwise would have been had he been here. We'll see.

My point...you can't compare next year's defensive performance with this year's performance for a multitude of reasons and then say it would have been better or worse if TG was the coordinator....that is just stupid....

Sure I can. l and everyone will make that comparison. However, what I actually said wasvthat I was concerned that the D wouldn't be as good next year as it would have been with TG. You can kick and scream and argue all you want, but that won't mean that anything you say is correct. It looks like you are already making excuses for a worse D next year.

which is something that could never be proved....

There are many reasons that the defense could be worse next year.....new starters....younger starters....different starters....playing against better offenses.....

The reasons the defense could be worse out number the reasons the defense could be better.....

No excuses here.....just reality....but to pinpoint that the defense will be worse just because of TG is a poor assumption....

Nope, you are not correct. Changing coordinators, both on offense and defense, as well as other coaches, often have significant impacts on teams. Don't know why you seem to be unaware of that, or won't admit.

 

[AZGrizFan]

My point...you can't compare next year's defensive performance with this year's performance for a multitude of reasons and then say it would have been better or worse if TG was the coordinator....that is just stupid....

Sure I can. l and everyone will make that comparison. However, what I actually said wasvthat I was concerned that the D wouldn't be as good next year as it would have been with TG. You can kick and scream and argue all you want, but that won't mean that anything you say is correct. It looks like you are already making excuses for a worse D next year.

which is something that could never be proved....

There are many reasons that the defense could be worse next year.....new starters....younger starters....different starters....playing against better offenses.....

The reasons the defense could be worse out number the reasons the defense could be better.....

No excuses here.....just reality....but to pinpoint that the defense will be worse just because of TG is a poor assumption....

Nope, you are not correct. Changing coordinators, both on offense and defense, as well as other coaches, often have significant impacts on teams. Don't know why you seem to be unaware of that, or won't admit.

Correct. Changing coordinators often has significant impact. In this case, it'll be a terrific impact.

 

[PlayerRep]

My point...you can't compare next year's defensive performance with this year's performance for a multitude of reasons and then say it would have been better or worse if TG was the coordinator....that is just stupid....

Sure I can. l and everyone will make that comparison. However, what I actually said wasvthat I was concerned that the D wouldn't be as good next year as it would have been with TG. You can kick and scream and argue all you want, but that won't mean that anything you say is correct. It looks like you are already making excuses for a worse D next year.

PR, please list the reasons the Griz D won't be as good next year with TG gone.

I said I was "concerned" about that, not that it will occur. Maybe the new DC will be the world's best DC. Possible reasons for concern. TG has been the DC for several years, has been with the Griz even longer, and has improved the defense each year. Some have said he is the best DC in the conference. I haven't looked around, so don't know. He is a very good linebacker coach. No one disputes that. He was very popular with the players. He is a very good motivator. Players have said he always had their backs. I believe players played very hard for him. He is a good recruiter. Other coaches may leave as a result of his departure. Players may or may not have to learn new defenses and techniques. Sometime that is not hard; sometimes it is. He will likely know the strengths and weaknesses of the defense and individual players. He will have ideas on how the defense can be attacked. New coaches, or a new DC, may make different personnel choices. That may impact the morale of some on the defense. I need to leave for dinner now, but I'm sure I could think of others.

In addition, I played the game. Ha. I had a new DC and new position coach for my senior year. I know the impact that had on the defense and individuals. Some were negative; some were positive. And while not just because of changes in the DC and some position coaches, our senior year D was not nearly as good as the prior year's D.

This is what I think. I also admit that the D could get better or be better due to a new DC. Don't think so, tho.