Brady Gustafson

[HelenaHandBasket]

Everyone hates him this week, but he'll throw for 400 and 5 TDs next week and everyone will anoint him as elite...Welcome to Egriz

I don't think people hate him. I and hope he does throw for 400 yards and 5 TDs.

My point is people overreact, Gus will be FINE we will be fine we won the game thats all that counts. Onto UNI Go Griz!

So you think it is an overreaction when people talk about his lack of consistency?

 

[The_Real_Chief]

Everyone hates him this week, but he'll throw for 400 and 5 TDs next week and everyone will anoint him as elite...Welcome to Egriz

I don't think people hate him. I and hope he does throw for 400 yards and 5 TDs.

My point is people overreact, Gus will be FINE we will be fine we won the game thats all that counts. Onto UNI Go Griz!

So you think it is an overreaction when people talk about his lack of consistency?

I trust the coaching staff to make the right decision, if they had someone better on the bench they'd be on the field. Gus is our guy and has shown flashes, but sure inconsistent i'll agree with that.

 

[Umista]

Football is a game of team players. We all continue to watch only one of the 11 players on offense. Yes our eyes all forcus on the QB but we have some of the OL missing blocks or making screw ups we don't notice until we re-watch the game on TV. Also we forget to watch the receivers etc. and we see things our players made that reflects on our QB. Our coaches have watched film on this game and are preaching corrections to the entire team.
Brady and the entire team are playing as hard as they can all game long. So if some of you would re-watch the past game you would learn WHY some of the poor plays occured. Have some faith and watch your team play. After game 3 this season we will have a good idea where we stand. Until then some of you are blowing smoke.

We have a chance of beating UNI.

 

[CFallsGriz]

really.......PR read those posts......and came away with.....they agreed with him........#seekingvalidation......#BOOM......

:lol:

 

[UMGriz75]

Everyone hates him this week,

Well, now THAT'S a classic overstatement.

 

[bearister]

Two observations. Gus needs to remember ball security when he's in traffic. He was waving the ball around in one hand on both fumbles, just trying to make a play. Sometimes he just needs to take the sack. Second, he and his receivers were not on the same page in the first half. Does anyone seriously think the #2, with way fewer practice reps, would be better synced with the receivers? Chalich certainly wasn't when he entered the Liberty game last year. Gus and his new corps of receivers will only get better as the year goes on.


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[Bear Axed]

Football is a game of team players. We all continue to watch only one of the 11 players on offense. Yes our eyes all forcus on the QB but we have some of the OL missing blocks or making screw ups we don't notice until we re-watch the game on TV. Also we forget to watch the receivers etc. and we see things our players made that reflects on our QB. Our coaches have watched film on this game and are preaching corrections to the entire team.
Brady and the entire team are playing as hard as they can all game long. So if some of you would re-watch the past game you would learn WHY some of the poor plays occured. Have some faith and watch your team play. After game 3 this season we will have a good idea where we stand. Until then some of you are blowing smoke.

We have a chance of beating UNI.

:thumb:

 

[UMGriz75]

Second, he and his receivers were not on the same page in the first half. Does anyone seriously think the #2, with way fewer practice reps, would be better synced with the receivers? Chalich certainly wasn't when he entered the Liberty game last year.

Huh?

Brady left the game at the end of the 1st Q with "0" points.

During the 2nd Q, we got two field goals and a 70 yard TD pass from Chalich to Jamal Jones. That's good on any day.

In the 3rd Q, on the first Grizzly drive

The Griz answered on their next drive, going 81 yards before Chalich faked a handoff to John Nguyen and busted in from a yard out for a TD. Counts set up the score with a 41-yard run from Montana's side of the field, helping UM pull within a score once again, 24-19.

Then came Counts' fumble and the Flames wouldn't be denied.

Chalich's game was in contrast to Brady's first Q which was zilch. Brady had just 54 yards in that first Q; Chad had 228 yards passing including the touchdown pass, a 41% improvement in number of passing yards per time of play over Brady in that game. Brady threw 54% completions, Chad threw 50%.

 

[PlayerRep]

I knew you wouldn't be able to point to anything specific. Of course, you are don't understand and never played the game guy.

How was the first half game plan? How would the plays being sent in by Stitt. How did BG deal with evaluating and changing plays from Stitt? How were BG's reads pre-snap, and reads and progressions after snap? How was his accuracy (looked pretty good to me)? How was communication with receivers? Did they all run the right routes and make good reads? Was Weyer hurting early on, and did that affect anything? What first half changes did the coaches try to make, if any? Did BG just magically go from playing horribly in the first half to playing very good in the second half? Did the running game just get magicaly good after Sprunk came in? Is the 5th in the nation in passing yardage not good enough for you? Is his second highest game passing efficiency not good enough for you?

Seriously, you just pulled a 75 and said absolutely nothing. I refuted the only concrete item you attempted to use, completion percentage, to base your "Gus was adequate" stance. Of which, this adequate stance needs to be prefaced by the "don't consider the 3 turnovers" stipulation. I also stated numerous times, that Gus played better in the second half, as has pretty much every other poster on the board. Gus is very inconsistent, which was on full display Saturday. I hope the good Gus shows up this Saturday, because they will need him.

No, you refuted nothing. And you didn't any the question I asked. I have been asking you why you thought BG played poorly in the first half, other than the obvious 3 turnovers (which everyone agrees was horrible). Like I thought, you have been unable to point to anything else and apparently don;t' have any views or data to back up anything you say. You don't understand the game of football. You just have opinions, and you stick to them.

But thanks for your view that BG played better in the second half. That was very helpful. No one probably knew that.

You just have your opinions and you stick to them. You know zero about what I understand and what I don't understand. I however understand, that you are unable to be objective about how Gus played for most the first half. Outside of your cherry picked stat of completion percentage, albeit at a poor YPA, why do you think he played well?

I never once said BG played well in the first half. I consistently said he played poorly or bad or something similar, and that the turnovers were horrible. Now we've confirmed that you can't read too.

Then, I moved on to a new subtopic, i.e. why do you think people thought he was horrible/dreadful, besides the turnovers (or was it primarily the turnovers). You were unable to answer the question--perhaps even to understand the question.

People, including myself, can tell a lot about what you know about football, because of all the dumb things you say about football.

 

[PlayerRep]

Two observations. Gus needs to remember ball security when he's in traffic. He was waving the ball around in one hand on both fumbles, just trying to make a play. Sometimes he just needs to take the sack. Second, he and his receivers were not on the same page in the first half. Does anyone seriously think the #2, with way fewer practice reps, would be better synced with the receivers? Chalich certainly wasn't when he entered the Liberty game last year. Gus and his new corps of receivers will only get better as the year goes on.


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Good post.

 

[grizindabox]

PR....so let me get this straight.....you believe that Gus played well in the first half......if you don't consider the turnovers.......why.......

 

[PlayerRep]

PR....so let me get this straight.....you believe that Gus played well in the first half......if you don't consider the turnovers.......why.......

This is what I said, multiple times including a few posts above: "I never once said BG played well in the first half. I consistently said he played poorly or bad or something similar, and that the turnovers were horrible. Now we've confirmed that you can't read too."

I then asked others what caused them, besides the turnovers, to say BG was awful/dreadful. Multiple posters seemed to say that the turnovers were the primary reasons for judging BG harshly. Asking this question does not translate into thinking BG otherwise played well. You obviously don't understand logic and must not be very logical.

Can you articulate what caused some posters to say that BG's first half was awful/dreadful, other than primarily the turnovers? What else? Would be interested in your thoughts? One person said the pass per throw or catch was low. Okay, that may be a minor factor. Others said the offense didn't score much. Okay, but that is probably not all on BG.

 

[grizindabox]

PR....so let me get this straight.....you believe that Gus played well in the first half......if you don't consider the turnovers.......why.......

This is what I said, multiple times including a few posts above: "I never once said BG played well in the first half. I consistently said he played poorly or bad or something similar, and that the turnovers were horrible. Now we've confirmed that you can't read too."

I then asked others what caused them, besides the turnovers, to say BG was awful/dreadful. Multiple posters seemed to say that the turnovers were the primary reasons for judging BG harshly. Asking this question does not translate into thinking BG otherwise played well. You obviously don't understand logic and must not be very logical.

Can you articulate what caused some posters to say that BG's first half was awful/dreadful, other than primarily the turnovers? What else? Would be interested in your thoughts? One person said the pass per throw or catch was low. Okay, that may be a minor factor. Others said the offense didn't score much. Okay, but that is probably not all on BG.

actually......I just skipped the first.....3 pages......of the thread......call me....lazy....

 

[AZGrizFan]

PR....so let me get this straight.....you believe that Gus played well in the first half......if you don't consider the turnovers.......why.......

This is what I said, multiple times including a few posts above: "I never once said BG played well in the first half. I consistently said he played poorly or bad or something similar, and that the turnovers were horrible. Now we've confirmed that you can't read too."

I then asked others what caused them, besides the turnovers, to say BG was awful/dreadful. Multiple posters seemed to say that the turnovers were the primary reasons for judging BG harshly. Asking this question does not translate into thinking BG otherwise played well. You obviously don't understand logic and must not be very logical.

Can you articulate what caused some posters to say that BG's first half was awful/dreadful, other than primarily the turnovers? What else? Would be interested in your thoughts? One person said the pass per throw or catch was low. Okay, that may be a minor factor. Others said the offense didn't score much. Okay, but that is probably not all on BG.

Here's a couple other reasons (I'm just now getting around to actually watching the game):

Staring down receivers, resulting in a couple of very near picks
Sailing the ball over receivers heads on multiple occasions or at their feet (uncatchable)
Not protecting the ball when the pocket started collapsing (fumble)
Holding the ball too long and allowing the defense to get to him
Throwing into double and triple coverage
Drives of 4, 5, 4, 9, 3 and 3 plays...exhausting the defense and 3 times giving up the ball deep in our territory
Having the ball twice inside the 50 to start a drive and coming away with zero points on those drives (in fact gained a total of 4 yards on those two drives).

 

[PlayerRep]

PR....so let me get this straight.....you believe that Gus played well in the first half......if you don't consider the turnovers.......why.......

This is what I said, multiple times including a few posts above: "I never once said BG played well in the first half. I consistently said he played poorly or bad or something similar, and that the turnovers were horrible. Now we've confirmed that you can't read too."

I then asked others what caused them, besides the turnovers, to say BG was awful/dreadful. Multiple posters seemed to say that the turnovers were the primary reasons for judging BG harshly. Asking this question does not translate into thinking BG otherwise played well. You obviously don't understand logic and must not be very logical.

Can you articulate what caused some posters to say that BG's first half was awful/dreadful, other than primarily the turnovers? What else? Would be interested in your thoughts? One person said the pass per throw or catch was low. Okay, that may be a minor factor. Others said the offense didn't score much. Okay, but that is probably not all on BG.

Here's a couple other reasons (I'm just now getting around to actually watching the game):

Staring down receivers, resulting in a couple of very near picks
Sailing the ball over receivers heads on multiple occasions or at their feet (uncatchable)
Not protecting the ball when the pocket started collapsing (fumble)
Holding the ball too long and allowing the defense to get to him
Throwing into double and triple coverage
Drives of 4, 5, 4, 9, 3 and 3 plays...exhausting the defense and 3 times giving up the ball deep in our territory
Having the ball twice inside the 50 to start a drive and coming away with zero points on those drives (in fact gained a total of 4 yards on those two drives).

Okay, good start. However, from recollection (in first half):

Didn't stare down many receivers and didn't have a couple near picks as a result.
Didn't have too many high throws or throws uncatchable at feet (couldn't have, as his completion percentage was quite high).
True on not protecting ball. Very bad.
Partially true on holding ball too long; was trying to make plays; had confidence.
Short drives were the fault of the whole offense, or at least much of it. BG only gets some blame.
Not taking advantage of good field position is an offense program, not to be pinned on BG.

Not of this, except not protecting the ball, leads to conclusions of being awful/dreadful, in my view. It's mainly the turnovers. Most everyone harshly criticizing his first didn't realize he had such a high completion percentage. I was watching stats on my phone while at game, so knew his percentage was good.

 

[AZGrizFan]

PR....so let me get this straight.....you believe that Gus played well in the first half......if you don't consider the turnovers.......why.......

This is what I said, multiple times including a few posts above: "I never once said BG played well in the first half. I consistently said he played poorly or bad or something similar, and that the turnovers were horrible. Now we've confirmed that you can't read too."

I then asked others what caused them, besides the turnovers, to say BG was awful/dreadful. Multiple posters seemed to say that the turnovers were the primary reasons for judging BG harshly. Asking this question does not translate into thinking BG otherwise played well. You obviously don't understand logic and must not be very logical.

Can you articulate what caused some posters to say that BG's first half was awful/dreadful, other than primarily the turnovers? What else? Would be interested in your thoughts? One person said the pass per throw or catch was low. Okay, that may be a minor factor. Others said the offense didn't score much. Okay, but that is probably not all on BG.

Here's a couple other reasons (I'm just now getting around to actually watching the game):

Staring down receivers, resulting in a couple of very near picks
Sailing the ball over receivers heads on multiple occasions or at their feet (uncatchable)
Not protecting the ball when the pocket started collapsing (fumble)
Holding the ball too long and allowing the defense to get to him
Throwing into double and triple coverage
Drives of 4, 5, 4, 9, 3 and 3 plays...exhausting the defense and 3 times giving up the ball deep in our territory
Having the ball twice inside the 50 to start a drive and coming away with zero points on those drives (in fact gained a total of 4 yards on those two drives).

Okay, good start. However, from recollection (in first half):

Didn't stare down many receivers and didn't have a couple near picks as a result.
Didn't have too many high throws or throws uncatchable at feet (couldn't have, as his completion percentage was quite high).
True on not protecting ball. Very bad.
Partially true on holding ball too long; was trying to make plays; had confidence.
Short drives were the fault of the whole offense, or at least much of it. BG only gets some blame.
Not taking advantage of good field position is an offense program, not to be pinned on BG.

Not of this, except not protecting the ball, leads to conclusions of being awful/dreadful, in my view. It's mainly the turnovers. Most everyone harshly criticizing his first didn't realize he had such a high completion percentage. I was watching stats on my phone while at game, so knew his percentage was good.

Well, while yours might be from recollection, I literally JUST watched the game and paid particular attention to Brady's performance. He overthrew 3 receivers, threw two into the dirt, stared down Horner twice (and both almost got picked), and was inexplicably short on a couple of longer passes as well...and 3 of the short drives were DIRECTLY attributable to his turnovers or the above mentioned poor passes. And for some inexplicable reason, he INSISTED on continually challenging #22 Jerome, who was obviously the best player on the field Saturday night.

I might just watch it again, focusing SOLELY on YAC....

 

[Eriul]

Eh people on this board are clueless. Dude ended with a 140 rating, which is pretty good. Obviously he had a bad half but you can't just look at Brady when it comes to the two fumbles. The biggest flaw in our entire team for the last year has been o-line and that is still the case so far. Maybe don't go so fast to criticize Brady when he's getting hit 2.5 seconds after the snap. People also seemingly ignore the fact that he had one of the prettiest balls on that long ball. Next week might be more of a clue but even then... 2 games, let alone 2 quarters, isn't enough to judge a player

 

[UMGriz75]

Next week might be more of a clue but even then... 2 games, let alone 2 quarters, isn't enough to judge a player

Is 29 quarters enough? Is he finally warmed up?

 

[Bscwatcher]

Eh people on this board are clueless. Dude ended with a 140 rating, which is pretty good. Obviously he had a bad half but you can't just look at Brady when it comes to the two fumbles. The biggest flaw in our entire team for the last year has been o-line and that is still the case so far. Maybe don't go so fast to criticize Brady when he's getting hit 2.5 seconds after the snap. People also seemingly ignore the fact that he had one of the prettiest balls on that long ball. Next week might be more of a clue but even then... 2 games, let alone 2 quarters, isn't enough to judge a player

Interestingly the NFL QB rating and NCAA are different formulas, but both are passing efficiency ratings.

Since there is not a defensive rating in the formula the number actually means nothing, unless you compared QBs against the same defense. In this case you have only one game, therefore nothing to compare to.

The biggest thing to remember is you are rating passing not a QB as a whole, fumbles do not go into the equation







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[Bscwatcher]

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