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Bscwatcher said:
PlayerRep said:
Bscwatcher said:
PlayerRep said:
No one is trying to wish them away. However, I am trying to determine why some believe BG was dreadful/awful in the first half. If you think he was horrible in the first half, let's see you explanation of why.

Just to start, 2 fumbles lost and and interception, and the points scored by the offense. It is pretty simple even if people haven't played the game.

Luckily it was against a 45 scholly team or it would have even been uglier

You of all people are smarter than that


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Then you too seem to agree with me that the primary reason you think he was bad in the first half, is because of the 3 turnovers?

Don't understand your comment about "smarter than that"? I ask posters to articulate their reason they believe BG was bad in the first half, and virtually everyone seems to agree with my assessment that is was primarily the turnovers.

How would you rate 35 points in the second half? How do you rate the 5th most passing yardage in FCS last weekend? How would you rate the 2d highest passing efficiency BG has ever had in a game?

The second half is attributed to two things

1. He played better
2. He played a team that only has 45 scholarships, meaning less depth.

Now it is gut check time. We will see what kind of team the Griz have including coaches.


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Keep taking it to these schmucks, BscWatcher. 90% of the people who post on here are totally clueless. Now we sit and wait for PR to show us some stats!
 
BubbleScreenBob1 said:
Bscwatcher said:
PlayerRep said:
Bscwatcher said:
Just to start, 2 fumbles lost and and interception, and the points scored by the offense. It is pretty simple even if people haven't played the game.

Luckily it was against a 45 scholly team or it would have even been uglier

You of all people are smarter than that


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Then you too seem to agree with me that the primary reason you think he was bad in the first half, is because of the 3 turnovers?

Don't understand your comment about "smarter than that"? I ask posters to articulate their reason they believe BG was bad in the first half, and virtually everyone seems to agree with my assessment that is was primarily the turnovers.

How would you rate 35 points in the second half? How do you rate the 5th most passing yardage in FCS last weekend? How would you rate the 2d highest passing efficiency BG has ever had in a game?

The second half is attributed to two things

1. He played better
2. He played a team that only has 45 scholarships, meaning less depth.

Now it is gut check time. We will see what kind of team the Griz have including coaches.


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Keep taking it to these schmucks, BscWatcher. 90% of the visitors who post on here are totally clueless. Now we sit and wait for PR to show us some stats!


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really.......PR read those posts......and came away with.....they agreed with him........#seekingvalidation......#BOOM......
 
PlayerRep said:
kemajic said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
Think you have to consider the 5.5 YPA when you look at the completion percentage which is not stellar.

Okay, that can be a factor. Do you think a 65% is passer is horrible if his passes are too short?
I think pretty unimportant relative to four turnovers.

Then are you agreeing with me that the 3 turnovers are the reason BG is being judged harshly for the first half, not other parts of his game? If not, what else causes you to judge him harshly? I agree with you on the turnovers.
Maybe a hauckism will help you understand how crazy you sound:
"Other than that, how'd you like the play, Mrs Lincoln?"

Is this the first time Gary and Ace disagree on something? Uh-oh, love on the rocks
 
grizindabox said:
really.......PR read those posts......and came away with.....they agreed with him........#seekingvalidation......#BOOM......

Yes, the more recent posters seemed to agree that the primary reason they believed BG was bad in first half was due to the 3 turnovers, not his throwing or completion percentage or how he ran the offense. That's what I was trying learn and establish.
 
garizzalies said:
PlayerRep said:
kemajic said:
PlayerRep said:
Okay, that can be a factor. Do you think a 65% is passer is horrible if his passes are too short?
I think pretty unimportant relative to four turnovers.

Then are you agreeing with me that the 3 turnovers are the reason BG is being judged harshly for the first half, not other parts of his game? If not, what else causes you to judge him harshly? I agree with you on the turnovers.
Maybe a hauckism will help you understand how crazy you sound:
"Other than that, how'd you like the play, Mrs Lincoln?"

Is this the first time Gary and Ace disagree on something? Uh-oh, love on the rocks

How do you think the coaches evaluated BG's play in the first half, other than the turnovers. Do you think the coaches didn't discuss anything else with him or give him any feedback, other than to say he needs to eliminate those turnovers and take care of the ball? Do you think they said: "We know you had the highest completion you've ever had in a game, but you need to get up in the 75% or 80% range? You need to tell your receivers to get open and get some separation. You need to tell your o-line to block alittle better.
 
PlayerRep said:
grizindabox said:
really.......PR read those posts......and came away with.....they agreed with him........#seekingvalidation......#BOOM......

Yes, the more recent posters seemed to agree that the primary reason they believed BG was bad in first half was due to the 3 turnovers, not his throwing or completion percentage or how he ran the offense. That's what I was trying learn and establish.

I don't think that is the case at all. I believe they are saying that the turnovers magnify how poor his first half was, not that they are the sole reason it was.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
grizindabox said:
really.......PR read those posts......and came away with.....they agreed with him........#seekingvalidation......#BOOM......

Yes, the more recent posters seemed to agree that the primary reason they believed BG was bad in first half was due to the 3 turnovers, not his throwing or completion percentage or how he ran the offense. That's what I was trying learn and establish.

I don't think that is the case at all. I believe they are saying that the turnovers magnify how poor his first half was, not that they are the sole reason it was.

Besides the turnovers, what else was BG doing poorly? I assume you aren't going to complain about his passing completion rate. Did you see him make mistakes on zone reads? Did he get called for too much time?
 
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
grizindabox said:
really.......PR read those posts......and came away with.....they agreed with him........#seekingvalidation......#BOOM......

Yes, the more recent posters seemed to agree that the primary reason they believed BG was bad in first half was due to the 3 turnovers, not his throwing or completion percentage or how he ran the offense. That's what I was trying learn and establish.

I don't think that is the case at all. I believe they are saying that the turnovers magnify how poor his first half was, not that they are the sole reason it was.

Besides the turnovers, what else was BG doing poorly? I assume you aren't going to complain about his passing completion rate. Did you see him make mistakes on zone reads? Did he get called for too much time?

You keep thumping you chest about his completion rate, but when your average passing attempt is barley more than 5 yards, and yards after the catch is inflating that number, I would hope the number would be high. PR, we will just have to agree to disagree. Up until that final drive of the half, he looked terrible even ignoring the turnovers.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
Yes, the more recent posters seemed to agree that the primary reason they believed BG was bad in first half was due to the 3 turnovers, not his throwing or completion percentage or how he ran the offense. That's what I was trying learn and establish.

I don't think that is the case at all. I believe they are saying that the turnovers magnify how poor his first half was, not that they are the sole reason it was.

Besides the turnovers, what else was BG doing poorly? I assume you aren't going to complain about his passing completion rate. Did you see him make mistakes on zone reads? Did he get called for too much time?

You keep thumping you chest about his completion rate, but when your average passing attempt is barley more than 5 yards, and yards after the catch is inflating that number, I would hope the number would be high. PR, we will just have to agree to disagree. Up until that final drive of the half, he looked terrible even ignoring the turnovers.
This.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
Yes, the more recent posters seemed to agree that the primary reason they believed BG was bad in first half was due to the 3 turnovers, not his throwing or completion percentage or how he ran the offense. That's what I was trying learn and establish.

I don't think that is the case at all. I believe they are saying that the turnovers magnify how poor his first half was, not that they are the sole reason it was.

Besides the turnovers, what else was BG doing poorly? I assume you aren't going to complain about his passing completion rate. Did you see him make mistakes on zone reads? Did he get called for too much time?

You keep thumping you chest about his completion rate, but when your average passing attempt is barley more than 5 yards, and yards after the catch is inflating that number, I would hope the number would be high. PR, we will just have to agree to disagree. Up until that final drive of the half, he looked terrible even ignoring the turnovers.

I knew you wouldn't be able to point to anything specific. Of course, you are don't understand and never played the game guy.

How was the first half game plan? How would the plays being sent in by Stitt. How did BG deal with evaluating and changing plays from Stitt? How were BG's reads pre-snap, and reads and progressions after snap? How was his accuracy (looked pretty good to me)? How was communication with receivers? Did they all run the right routes and make good reads? Was Weyer hurting early on, and did that affect anything? What first half changes did the coaches try to make, if any? Did BG just magically go from playing horribly in the first half to playing very good in the second half? Did the running game just get magicaly good after Sprunk came in? Is the 5th in the nation in passing yardage not good enough for you? Is his second highest game passing efficiency not good enough for you?
 
BubbleScreenBob1 said:
The only reason why BG was better in the 2nd half is because SFU defense was gassed!

Isn't that that the goal of Stitt's offense? Hauck also had a similar strategy but his resulted from physical play all game long.
 
PlayerRep said:
BubbleScreenBob1 said:
The only reason why BG was better in the 2nd half is because SFU defense was gassed!

Isn't that that the goal of Stitt's offense? Hauck also had a similar strategy but his resulted from physical play all game long.


Yes! I see what you are saying and i agree with it but it only works on a team like SFU when the level of talent really drops off after the starters but it will not work against better teams like, UNI and NDSU.
 
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
I don't think that is the case at all. I believe they are saying that the turnovers magnify how poor his first half was, not that they are the sole reason it was.

Besides the turnovers, what else was BG doing poorly? I assume you aren't going to complain about his passing completion rate. Did you see him make mistakes on zone reads? Did he get called for too much time?

You keep thumping you chest about his completion rate, but when your average passing attempt is barley more than 5 yards, and yards after the catch is inflating that number, I would hope the number would be high. PR, we will just have to agree to disagree. Up until that final drive of the half, he looked terrible even ignoring the turnovers.

I knew you wouldn't be able to point to anything specific. Of course, you are don't understand and never played the game guy.

How was the first half game plan? How would the plays being sent in by Stitt. How did BG deal with evaluating and changing plays from Stitt? How were BG's reads pre-snap, and reads and progressions after snap? How was his accuracy (looked pretty good to me)? How was communication with receivers? Did they all run the right routes and make good reads? Was Weyer hurting early on, and did that affect anything? What first half changes did the coaches try to make, if any? Did BG just magically go from playing horribly in the first half to playing very good in the second half? Did the running game just get magicaly good after Sprunk came in? Is the 5th in the nation in passing yardage not good enough for you? Is his second highest game passing efficiency not good enough for you?

Seriously, you just pulled a 75 and said absolutely nothing. I refuted the only concrete item you attempted to use, completion percentage, to base your "Gus was adequate" stance. Of which, this adequate stance needs to be prefaced by the "don't consider the 3 turnovers" stipulation. I also stated numerous times, that Gus played better in the second half, as has pretty much every other poster on the board. Gus is very inconsistent, which was on full display Saturday. I hope the good Gus shows up this Saturday, because they will need him.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
Besides the turnovers, what else was BG doing poorly? I assume you aren't going to complain about his passing completion rate. Did you see him make mistakes on zone reads? Did he get called for too much time?

You keep thumping you chest about his completion rate, but when your average passing attempt is barley more than 5 yards, and yards after the catch is inflating that number, I would hope the number would be high. PR, we will just have to agree to disagree. Up until that final drive of the half, he looked terrible even ignoring the turnovers.

I knew you wouldn't be able to point to anything specific. Of course, you are don't understand and never played the game guy.

How was the first half game plan? How would the plays being sent in by Stitt. How did BG deal with evaluating and changing plays from Stitt? How were BG's reads pre-snap, and reads and progressions after snap? How was his accuracy (looked pretty good to me)? How was communication with receivers? Did they all run the right routes and make good reads? Was Weyer hurting early on, and did that affect anything? What first half changes did the coaches try to make, if any? Did BG just magically go from playing horribly in the first half to playing very good in the second half? Did the running game just get magicaly good after Sprunk came in? Is the 5th in the nation in passing yardage not good enough for you? Is his second highest game passing efficiency not good enough for you?

Seriously, you just pulled a 75 and said absolutely nothing. I refuted the only concrete item you attempted to use, completion percentage, to base your "Gus was adequate" stance. Of which, this adequate stance needs to be prefaced by the "don't consider the 3 turnovers" stipulation. I also stated numerous times, that Gus played better in the second half, as has pretty much every other poster on the board. Gus is very inconsistent, which was on full display Saturday. I hope the good Gus shows up this Saturday, because they will need him.

No, you refuted nothing. And you didn't any the question I asked. I have been asking you why you thought BG played poorly in the first half, other than the obvious 3 turnovers (which everyone agrees was horrible). Like I thought, you have been unable to point to anything else and apparently don;t' have any views or data to back up anything you say. You don't understand the game of football. You just have opinions, and you stick to them.

But thanks for your view that BG played better in the second half. That was very helpful. No one probably knew that.
 
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
PlayerRep said:
HelenaHandBasket said:
You keep thumping you chest about his completion rate, but when your average passing attempt is barley more than 5 yards, and yards after the catch is inflating that number, I would hope the number would be high. PR, we will just have to agree to disagree. Up until that final drive of the half, he looked terrible even ignoring the turnovers.

I knew you wouldn't be able to point to anything specific. Of course, you are don't understand and never played the game guy.

How was the first half game plan? How would the plays being sent in by Stitt. How did BG deal with evaluating and changing plays from Stitt? How were BG's reads pre-snap, and reads and progressions after snap? How was his accuracy (looked pretty good to me)? How was communication with receivers? Did they all run the right routes and make good reads? Was Weyer hurting early on, and did that affect anything? What first half changes did the coaches try to make, if any? Did BG just magically go from playing horribly in the first half to playing very good in the second half? Did the running game just get magicaly good after Sprunk came in? Is the 5th in the nation in passing yardage not good enough for you? Is his second highest game passing efficiency not good enough for you?

Seriously, you just pulled a 75 and said absolutely nothing. I refuted the only concrete item you attempted to use, completion percentage, to base your "Gus was adequate" stance. Of which, this adequate stance needs to be prefaced by the "don't consider the 3 turnovers" stipulation. I also stated numerous times, that Gus played better in the second half, as has pretty much every other poster on the board. Gus is very inconsistent, which was on full display Saturday. I hope the good Gus shows up this Saturday, because they will need him.

No, you refuted nothing. And you didn't any the question I asked. I have been asking you why you thought BG played poorly in the first half, other than the obvious 3 turnovers (which everyone agrees was horrible). Like I thought, you have been unable to point to anything else and apparently don;t' have any views or data to back up anything you say. You don't understand the game of football. You just have opinions, and you stick to them.

But thanks for your view that BG played better in the second half. That was very helpful. No one probably knew that.

You just have your opinions and you stick to them. You know zero about what I understand and what I don't understand. I however understand, that you are unable to be objective about how Gus played for most the first half. Outside of your cherry picked stat of completion percentage, albeit at a poor YPA, why do you think he played well?
 
Everyone hates him this week, but he'll throw for 400 and 5 TDs next week and everyone will anoint him as elite...Welcome to Egriz
 
The_Real_Chief said:
Everyone hates him this week, but he'll throw for 400 and 5 TDs next week and everyone will anoint him as elite...Welcome to Egriz

I don't think people hate him. I and hope he does throw for 400 yards and 5 TDs.
 
HelenaHandBasket said:
The_Real_Chief said:
Everyone hates him this week, but he'll throw for 400 and 5 TDs next week and everyone will anoint him as elite...Welcome to Egriz

I don't think people hate him. I and hope he does throw for 400 yards and 5 TDs.

My point is people overreact, Gus will be FINE we will be fine we won the game thats all that counts. Onto UNI Go Griz!
 
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