lost_soul said:I think it is worth mentioning that MSU has retooled their offense to be faster and run more plays. I think that helps alleviate some of the protection problems if they can keep a defense on their heels.
grizcountry420 said:lost_soul said:I think it is worth mentioning that MSU has retooled their offense to be faster and run more plays. I think that helps alleviate some of the protection problems if they can keep a defense on their heels.
Saaaaay Whaaaaaat?
bigsky33 said:Copper, the OC is a proven commodity. The Cats record is very good despite the changes in offenive coordinators. Every OC that Ash has brought in has been better than the last. Yes there are three good QBs waiting in the wings plus Tanner Roderick. The true freshman Quinn McQweary is going to be a good one. He can pass and can run. He is a good all around athlete. Also Copper, I know your hoping the offensive line is still undersized but your wrong. It is the strongest it has been in years. Averages 297lbs. with an excellent OL coach in Jason McEndoo. The depth in the OL is excellent. You criticze our small OL last year but our record was 11-2. Your OL was bigger and stronger and you had a losing record. Hmm! If you look at DM's record over his years despite the change in OCs is outstanding.
And, does a bear shit in the woods? No, he shits in Missoula!
Mac has always recruited mobile guys on the OL, more so that um has, that is one of the reasons the Cats have usually been light on the OL. Success in the last few years has allows Mac to land some bigger recruits that maintain that mobility. The biggest issue last year was experience and that they had not been able to fully develop yet. now we have a SO OL that has grown up and have a year of experience under their belt, combined with Cramsey's offense it makes for easier blocking schemes. The biggest surprise you will see will be the strength of MSU's OL, the second biggest surprise will be the strength of the DL, given that we graduated a NFL DT and a Buchanan winner last year, but we will probably have a better DL in '13 than we had in '12Copper Griz said:bigsky33 said:Copper, the OC is a proven commodity. The Cats record is very good despite the changes in offenive coordinators. Every OC that Ash has brought in has been better than the last. Yes there are three good QBs waiting in the wings plus Tanner Roderick. The true freshman Quinn McQweary is going to be a good one. He can pass and can run. He is a good all around athlete. Also Copper, I know your hoping the offensive line is still undersized but your wrong. It is the strongest it has been in years. Averages 297lbs. with an excellent OL coach in Jason McEndoo. The depth in the OL is excellent. You criticze our small OL last year but our record was 11-2. Your OL was bigger and stronger and you had a losing record. Hmm! If you look at DM's record over his years despite the change in OCs is outstanding.
And, does a bear shit in the woods? No, he shits in Missoula!
Size is one thing 33, but can they move? You are correct about your record, but frankly the Griz were a dumpster fire and other than CP there was no other powerhouse team. (CP was questionable). If (a big if) your o -line can move, actually provide protection and blow holes, then the offense could be a force to reckon with. Then it will be on your D to stand their ground. I just don't see that your o-line has a lot of reps or that they are tested and experienced. Unlike the Griz secondary. They have plenty of reps, they just need to pull their heads out. They also have the benefit of an offense that will keep the others team offense on the sideline for a significant portion of the game. God - I can't wait for this season to start.
bigsky33 said:Copper, the OC is a proven commodity. The Cats record is very good despite the changes in offenive coordinators. Every OC that Ash has brought in has been better than the last. Yes there are three good QBs waiting in the wings plus Tanner Roderick. The true freshman Quinn McQweary is going to be a good one. He can pass and can run. He is a good all around athlete. Also Copper, I know your hoping the offensive line is still undersized but your wrong. It is the strongest it has been in years. Averages 297lbs. with an excellent OL coach in Jason McEndoo. The depth in the OL is excellent. You criticze our small OL last year but our record was 11-2. Your OL was bigger and stronger and you had a losing record. Hmm! If you look at DM's record over his years despite the change in OCs is outstanding.
And, does a bear shit in the woods? No, he shits in Missoula!
O line will NOT be a problem at MSU any time in the foreseeable future.
EverettGriz said:O line will NOT be a problem at MSU any time in the foreseeable future.
Huh. Most of the knowledgeable cat fans I talk to think it's a legitimate concern this year.
EverettGriz said:O line will NOT be a problem at MSU any time in the foreseeable future.
Huh. Most of the knowledgeable cat fans I talk to think it's a legitimate concern this year.
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:EverettGriz said:O line will NOT be a problem at MSU any time in the foreseeable future.
Huh. Most of the knowledgeable cat fans I talk to think it's a legitimate concern this year.
Where are you finding all these "knowledgeable cat fans"?
Did you rent out Husky stadium so you had room to seat all of them?
poorgriz said:Or even the griz O line. Are the knowledgeable griz fans concerned about them working in new players, gelling, etc.? I doubt it. I also question and truly "knowledgeable" Cat fan that has any question that our O line play will be improved in 2013. Read the Spring and now Fall practice reports, Colter's articles, and Listen to coach Mac. That will tell any Bobcat fans everything they need to know.
Copper Griz said:poorgriz said:Or even the griz O line. Are the knowledgeable griz fans concerned about them working in new players, gelling, etc.? I doubt it. I also question and truly "knowledgeable" Cat fan that has any question that our O line play will be improved in 2013. Read the Spring and now Fall practice reports, Colter's articles, and Listen to coach Mac. That will tell any Bobcat fans everything they need to know.
I would say the Griz O line has historically dominated teams and they get the benefit of the doubt from most teams. To compare the Cat and Griz lines is not even reasonable at this point.